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Another CoV19 POLL: Lets get to the real numbers (revised)

 
SaveUSa  (OP)

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I agree, wife has symptoms and son has been in Hong Kong but they won't test, probably not it but we'll never know. Son has a friend and the friend and his co-worker got sick after traveling to Japan on business. They wouldn't test the friend but I'm not sure his symptoms were exactly what you'd see with covid19 . Friends coworker had all the symptoms but was told they couldn't test but if wanted to know he could go to a different hospital and try to get tested. He never was tested and most likely has it.
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This is relevant, and thanks! I believe that this would qualify as an affirmative, but is not covered under the poll.

Will see if I can edit. That said, same rules apply. If you post in the affirmative, you must state so, and share why.
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This leaves me very confused about the medical system and government response. On one hand you could say Trump is correct that there are lots of people that have it that aren't diagnosed so it makes the mortality rate look much higher than it actually is. On the other hand it's obvious they aren't trying to identify and isolate people like they claim they are.
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good thought.

My response was a negative..... and my only concern is similar to that of being in a crowded space and someone screaming fire and they only smell a little smoke.

First, Trump has put into action quickly all the right things, but as always he is not doing the detailed work and making medically procedural decisions. To me it is clear the people making those detailed medical decisions are not being rational in terms of the protocols they are implementing. I could easily speculate that this affair is agenda driven to make it look worse than it is.

If you don't test you don't know and can make no other assumptions even if a patient dies. Until hundreds of thousands of people are tested, particularly in areas of known existing tested cases you can not statistically prove any detailed knowledge about the virus. Anyone that spouts a mortality rate as though it is fact is either misinformed or pulling numbers from their butt.
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Well said.
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20 affirmatives. I am particularly interested in hearing from those that were diagnosed with the disease, or have intel from someone they know. How are they doing now? How were they/you diagnosed? What caused you to go get checked, and how were you / are you being treated?

Again, if you posted in the affirmative, state so before sharing your story.
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HA! They had enough time to start their puter...check emails...facebook...twitter AND the come to GLP to browse and then found your poll to vote.


Seems they could've found the time to elaborate on their affirmative vote...BUT NOOOOOOO. Maybe they had to go stand in line at Costco and Walmart for toilet paper. I guess my trust in people voting honestly and especially on the faceless inturdnet is pretty low. And at this point my original idea that 2 out of 8 might be truthful has changed to maybe 2 or 3 out of the 20 may be truthful. Oh well.



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lol 8 people here have it?
they should get their own threads
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20 affirmatives. I am particularly interested in hearing from those that were diagnosed with the disease, or have intel from someone they know. How are they doing now? How were they/you diagnosed? What caused you to go get checked, and how were you / are you being treated?

Again, if you posted in the affirmative, state so before sharing your story.
 Quoting: SaveUSa




HA! They had enough time to start their puter...check emails...facebook...twitter AND the come to GLP to browse and then found your poll to vote.


Seems they could've found the time to elaborate on their affirmative vote...BUT NOOOOOOO. Maybe they had to go stand in line at Costco and Walmart for toilet paper. I guess my trust in people voting honestly and especially on the faceless inturdnet is pretty low. And at this point my original idea that 2 out of 8 might be truthful has changed to maybe 2 or 3 out of the 20 may be truthful. Oh well.



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I’m right there with ya.
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SaveUSa  (OP)

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lol 8 people here have it?
they should get their own threads
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Notice how they have yet to share their stories...so, I mark that category to zero so far.
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This is sort of a pointless poll, most users of glp are in the US, so far there’s only 340 some confirmed cases so of course hardly anyone here is going to know someone with the virus. Most people who might actually have it would not even know they have it as they have yer to be tested for it.
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As of the numbers right now, people on GLP represent about 0.0006% of the US population. There's no way this poll can represent any kind of reality anyway with such a small sample to work from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75458309


About as useful as a political poll during election season, but here we are. Never said it was scientific, but this is a reasonably large audience that might allow one to glean some semblance of things beyond the insanity we see on the news, particularly through what is shared (outside of the poll). So, take it for what it’s worth to you, or don’t...
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Well, you say you are searching for "truth" here. You can't search for truth with a slanted poll and a tiny sample. All you can do is try to reinforce your personal opinion by overanalyzing the limited results you are working with.

I suggest, if you really want the truth, there are no shortcuts to going back and doing the reading yourself. This has been going on since December. If you are basing your entire opinion on 2 weeks worth of MSM reporting, then you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing others of.
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16 out of 353 voted that they themselves have the virus, or that they personally know of someone that does, but not one of those voters have posted their account as of yet. The quarantine question is likely the most realistically answered one. To those 16 - put up or shut up.
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16 out of 353 voted that they themselves have the virus, or that they personally know of someone that does, but not one of those voters have posted their account as of yet. The quarantine question is likely the most realistically answered one. To those 16 - put up or shut up.
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To be clear, I don't believe this is all a hoax.

However, this IS GLP. I'd wager at least a few of those positives are trolling you on purpose.
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This is sort of a pointless poll, most users of glp are in the US, so far there’s only 340 some confirmed cases so of course hardly anyone here is going to know someone with the virus. Most people who might actually have it would not even know they have it as they have yer to be tested for it.
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As of the numbers right now, people on GLP represent about 0.0006% of the US population. There's no way this poll can represent any kind of reality anyway with such a small sample to work from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75458309


About as useful as a political poll during election season, but here we are. Never said it was scientific, but this is a reasonably large audience that might allow one to glean some semblance of things beyond the insanity we see on the news, particularly through what is shared (outside of the poll). So, take it for what it’s worth to you, or don’t...
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Well, you say you are searching for "truth" here. You can't search for truth with a slanted poll and a tiny sample. All you can do is try to reinforce your personal opinion by overanalyzing the limited results you are working with.

I suggest, if you really want the truth, there are no shortcuts to going back and doing the reading yourself. This has been going on since December. If you are basing your entire opinion on 2 weeks worth of MSM reporting, then you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing others of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75458309


I have read and watched as much as anyone else on here - possibly more. I also know that some of the mainstream and social media information is false or half-truths to foment an agenda. So, while I agree that this “Poll” is not scientific, and the sample is small by comparison, there are many on this forum, we all know a lot of people, and most here have a proclivity to share their info more so than the average joe - so would expect to see at least one or two fist hand accounts (of actual CoV19 impact) corroborating the information we’ve been fed. This was the overriding intent behind the poll.

So far, while some here know of others that might have been infected, quarantined, or they suspect same, I have not yet seen a true account of direct impact on an individual (or close acquaintance) as a result of this virus. I’m betting most here haven’t either. Have you?

This thread is young though, so we shall see. Maybe this thing is the true Armageddon everyone’s been waiting for, but I’m betting not. If I’m wrong, it probably won’t much matter anyway, will it?
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16 out of 353 voted that they themselves have the virus, or that they personally know of someone that does, but not one of those voters have posted their account as of yet. The quarantine question is likely the most realistically answered one. To those 16 - put up or shut up.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


To be clear, I don't believe this is all a hoax.

However, this IS GLP. I'd wager at least a few of those positives are trolling you on purpose.
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Of course they are. Fully expected that. It is GLP after all.
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Have you?
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I like that you seem to be a reasonable poster, even if I don't agree with your position. There's a reason I voted blank, and it's because I do know someone, and there is suspicion (now) that they were an early US COVID-19 death, but there has been zero "official" confirmation of any kind. Since it's anecdotal and unproven though, it should not count for anything right now in either direction.
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We have a family friend in Cambodia, who was working in Thailand and died there of Corona Virus.

The temperature was 90+ degrees at the time when they suspect he contracted the disease while working under contract at an army base.

He was only 34 or 35 - not sure, but had been in relatively good health, by all accounts.
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Have you?
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I like that you seem to be a reasonable poster, even if I don't agree with your position. There's a reason I voted blank, and it's because I do know someone, and there is suspicion (now) that they were an early US COVID-19 death, but there has been zero "official" confirmation of any kind. Since it's anecdotal and unproven though, it should not count for anything right now in either direction.
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Thank you for sharing, and please let us know if that person becomes a positive. This is relevant nonetheless, and will go into the suspected category. Sorry for your loss. Truly.
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We have a family friend in Cambodia, who was working in Thailand and died there of Corona Virus.

The temperature was 90+ degrees at the time when they suspect he contracted the disease while working under contract at an army base.

He was only 34 or 35 - not sure, but had been in relatively good health, by all accounts.
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Did you vote appropriately?
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??

This could be a great poll if they were testing??


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They don't want you to know...

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Thank you for sharing, and please let us know if that person becomes a positive. This is relevant nonetheless, and will go into the suspected category. Sorry for your loss. Truly.
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I appreciate it, but the fact is, we'll never know one way or another as I doubt they plan on testing her now that she's gone. It was a few weeks ago, before the media blitz finally picked up on it, so it wasn't the first thing on their mind, I'm sure. I believe it was officially listed as "pneumonia complications".

To me, the problem isn't that there aren't cases, it's that the CDC apparently wants to do anything necessary to prevent testing people.

To me that says "panic management", but I can see how others could read that differently.
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Thank you for sharing, and please let us know if that person becomes a positive. This is relevant nonetheless, and will go into the suspected category. Sorry for your loss. Truly.
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I appreciate it, but the fact is, we'll never know one way or another as I doubt they plan on testing her now that she's gone. It was a few weeks ago, before the media blitz finally picked up on it, so it wasn't the first thing on their mind, I'm sure. I believe it was officially listed as "pneumonia complications".

To me, the problem isn't that there aren't cases, it's that the CDC apparently wants to do anything necessary to prevent testing people.

To me that says "panic management", but I can see how others could read that differently.
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Due to your account, and those of others, I will likely create a new poll later today or tomorrow, adding “I know of an acquaintance, friend or family member directly affected by complications suspected to be related (ie pneumonia)” or something like that. I don’t want to capture every sniffle, sneeze or flu story, but those as serious as this one are relevant.

If anyone has additional suggestions, feel free to offer...

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Due to your account, and those of others, I will likely create a new poll later today or tomorrow, adding “I know of an acquaintance, friend or family member directly affected by complications suspected to be related (ie pneumonia)” or something like that. I don’t want to capture every sniffle, sneeze or flu story, but those as serious as this one are relevant.

If anyone has additional suggestions, feel free to offer...
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I'm off GLP for the day, personally, but I will make sure to look for it tonight or tomorrow.

I can get behind a poll that acknowledges it may not be reliable and covers both sides of the equation.

One thing us virus-tards have in common with the hoax-tards is that we all agree that quality information is in short supply.
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i had covid 19 with all the symptoms including shortness of breath and lung pain. never tested and never quarantined. just took shitloads of vitamin c. coronavirus does not like vitamin c!
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Due to your account, and those of others, I will likely create a new poll later today or tomorrow, adding “I know of an acquaintance, friend or family member directly affected by complications suspected to be related (ie pneumonia)” or something like that. I don’t want to capture every sniffle, sneeze or flu story, but those as serious as this one are relevant.

If anyone has additional suggestions, feel free to offer...
 Quoting: SaveUSa


I'm off GLP for the day, personally, but I will make sure to look for it tonight or tomorrow.

I can get behind a poll that acknowledges it may not be reliable and covers both sides of the equation.

One thing us virus-tards have in common with the hoax-tards is that we all agree that quality information is in short supply.
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Same here. Have chores to do, but it will be done. Likely tomorrow. Until then, I will continue to periodically check in on this one, and edit the OP as I see new stories. That said, I do still think it interesting that we have so many “directly impacted” per the poll, yet no stories to back it up (with the few exceptions cited - thanks to those that have shared).
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So far this poll says it all. The vast majority have no virus, and know no one personally who has it. Its already first week of March. That is a GOOD SIGN.

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So far this poll says it all. The vast majority have no virus, and know no one personally who has it. Its already first week of March. That is a GOOD SIGN.

afro
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Until the “affirmatives” actually post something of substance to substantiate their claims, I agree. That said, I will put the new poll up this weekend. Guessing there will be quite a few “suspected” cases, but I will attempt to cast the related question to limit as much noise as possible.
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For those interested, since I could not revise the poll once it started, I created a new thread - allowing folks to post within a broadened spectrum...please contribute if you have the time or inclination to learn more.

Thread: Another CoV19 POLL (v.2): Revised by popular demand!
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My dad is 66 years old with COPD and respiratory failure, on oxygen 24/7 here at home and does a nebulizer 5 times a day. I help care for him and my mom so I am doing everything I can to stay away from anyone that seems sick, ill, dirty etc... etc...

When I do go out to get groceries and other things I have been using hand sanitizer, no touching my face, wiping buggies down with germ wipes and not touching anything in the store that I don't plan on buying.

Also I have been washing all fruits and veg because people are nasty and can cough, touch and sneeze on them in the store. My friends probably think I'm crazy but if my dad was to get this coronavirus (or even flu a,b) it would possibly kill him. So I'm trying to do everything I can to stay clean but there comes a point when there's only so much you can do.





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