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The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.

 
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The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.

NOTE: Numbers were taken at approximately 12:00CST on 3/11/2020 from [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]

NOTE 2: No, I don't have generational or case data included here because nobody, not the CDC, WHO or God himself has that data right now. That shit doesn't get compiled until AFTER this is over. They may have preliminary numbers but even those are likely about as useful as just making something up this early in the game.

NOTE 3: This is a simple calculation of death rate based on reported concluded case numbers. It isn't flashy. It isn't even hard.

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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Yeah, I am bumping my own thread. What? Y'all need to see these numbers because the ones you are throwing around are wrong.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Screw it. Just saw someone say 2%. Means y'all aren't learning and I need to bump again. In fact, from here on out, every time I see a death rate below 5% mentioned, I am going to bump my own thread.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Dc-FacTs
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Dc-FacTs
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS



It is NOT dead/recovered. It IS dead per people infected (i.e. 1000 catch it, 34 die = 3.4%). Duh...
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Yep. Not one death in New Rochelle-- but massive fear porn.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS



It is NOT dead/recovered. It IS dead per people infected (i.e. 1000 catch it, 34 die = 3.4%). Duh...
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Look at you! Proving my point. Good job. I needed that.
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Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Dc-FacTs
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
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I took Algebra, Geometry, Calculus, and Chemistry. Can you show how you arrived at these %'s? Thanks in advance.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Yeah, I am bumping my own thread. What? Y'all need to see these numbers because the ones you are throwing around are wrong.
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I know those numbers.

I'm using 6.6% from Italy right now
But won't be surprised by 10 or 15% rate.

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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS



It is NOT dead/recovered. It IS dead per people infected (i.e. 1000 catch it, 34 die = 3.4%). Duh...
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Until we know how the cases resolve, it is an unknown.

Better to pay attention to dead/recovered for now unless you want to get your ass handed to you by this thing.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


Derp
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No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Dc-FacTs
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
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I took Algebra, Geometry, Calculus, and Chemistry. Can you show how you arrived at these %'s? Thanks in advance.
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The equation is listed in your quoted text.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


The 6.6% rate is the full set of your preceding numbers.

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Dc-FacTs
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
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I took Algebra, Geometry, Calculus, and Chemistry. Can you show how you arrived at these %'s? Thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76864606


The equation is listed in your quoted text.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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Honestly, you are not making any sense.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


The 6.6% rate is the full set of your preceding numbers.

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If Chinese numbers are included, yes. But none of their numbers nor anything they have said to this point make sense mathematically. Hence their artificially low death rate. Once you remove their numbers from the jumble, the world wide death rate jumps from just over 6% up to nearly 21%.
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


I took Algebra, Geometry, Calculus, and Chemistry. Can you show how you arrived at these %'s? Thanks in advance.
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The equation is listed in your quoted text.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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Honestly, you are not making any sense.
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Care to expand on that or are we just throwing out blanket statements without any real context or content now?
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I took Algebra, Geometry, Calculus, and Chemistry. Can you show how you arrived at these %'s? Thanks in advance.
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The equation is listed in your quoted text.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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Honestly, you are not making any sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76864606


Care to expand on that or are we just throwing out blanket statements without any real context or content now?
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I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from, sources, etc.
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The equation is listed in your quoted text.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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Honestly, you are not making any sense.
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Care to expand on that or are we just throwing out blanket statements without any real context or content now?
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I have no idea where you are getting your numbers from, sources, etc.
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[link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]

That site as of noon CST. Numbers have changed slightly since then due to new reports so there will be slight differences but most should hold close.
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Clearly OP couldn’t be bothered doing any real research before posting those figures.
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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the official calculations are based on the number of infections: deaths./.infections
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more bullshit Trump Coup propaganda
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Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Dc-FacTs
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
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Calculating averages -
Pick One
Algebra-
Bing!
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Re: The REAL COVID death rates as they stand now. The 3% and 6% crap is nothing but lies and propaganda.
Even after all this time, people quote death rates based on total cases as if they have any meaning at all. Here are the real death rates so you can see how scary this thing can be when real numbers are looked at. Especially early on.

China (FAKE): 5.3%
Italy: 46.5%
Iran: 10.6%
S. Korea: 17.9%
Spain: 26.2%
France: 73.3%
Germany: 10.7%
United States: 78.4%
World wide w/ China #s: 6.2%
World wide excluding China: 20.9%


I don't know where all the 3 and 6% bull shit came from but it needs to be checked with a quickness.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Link?

If your right, Trump is lying to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78599329


No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


the official calculations are based on the number of infections: deaths./.infections
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Which is exactly why they are wrong. You gain nothing by counting a case that is not concluded. It is a mystery as it is in process. Concluded cases are the only numbers that have any real value at this point without having access to generational data which none of us do.

The only real thing to note is that with this method, you will see the numbers normalize much faster than you will with the rate based on total infections. Using that rate will give you artificially low numbers until every case has concluded.
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No link. I am the one who calculated these. Not terribly difficult to do.

Deaths /(Deaths + Recovered)
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Dc-FacTs
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
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I took Algebra, Geometry, Calculus, and Chemistry. Can you show how you arrived at these %'s? Thanks in advance.
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Dc-FacTs
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It is very basic algebra. It isn't hard for anyone that made it past 6th grade. I know this can be a sore spot for you but no amount of bitching will get them to allow your 45 year old basement dwelling ass to go back to school.

Go sit in the corner while the adults talk.
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I took Algebra, Geometry, Calculus, and Chemistry.
Can you show how you arrived at these %'s? Thanks in advance.
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I didn't take any of that, but the OP seems to be onto something.
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Learn to math OP. cruise
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