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Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus

 
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Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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So, what should be used instead?
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So, what should be used instead?
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Maybe acetaminophen
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So, what should be used instead?
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Maybe acetaminophen
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Don't use anything that suppresses fever, tbh.
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So, what should be used instead?
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Heroïne?
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So, what should be used instead?
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Maybe acetaminophen
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Viruses don't like heat. That's why the body uses fever to kill them. And thats why the flu season subsides in summer.
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So, what should be used instead?
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Maybe acetaminophen
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Don't use anything that suppresses fever, tbh.
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Dr. John Campbell said fever is the body purposefully heating itself up to fight the infection. He said he personally wouldn't recommend taking things to counteract that.
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A hiv up the bottom of vit c works lol
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I've just bought a stack of ibuprofen in case i get COVID 19!

Maybe herbal anti inflamitories like ginger and turmeric instead.
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So here we have an article attributed to one Swiss individual and one Greek individual using data from China. Can we trust this?
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I've just bought a stack of ibuprofen in case i get COVID 19!

Maybe herbal anti inflamitories like ginger and turmeric instead.
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In one of the treatment guidelines that the Chinese put out one of their treatments was some type of herbal soup and one of the ingredients was Ginger. So that might be useful as an inflammatory.

It is just hard to really know what to take because this is such a new virus that hasn't been tested thoroughly.
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Re: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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I heard that Aleve works wonders..
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Re: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


I heard that Aleve works wonders..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12062366


It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


I heard that Aleve works wonders..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12062366


Is Aleve an ACE inhibitor too?
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Re: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


I heard that Aleve works wonders..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12062366


It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


I heard that Aleve works wonders..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12062366


Is Aleve an ACE inhibitor too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75155455


After I get my degree in pharmacology I will answer this.
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Re: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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there is NO COVID 19 virus... there are lots of different corona viruses though...

COVID 19 is the name of the STORM. .. The GAME and its a mighty game is it not.
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there is NO COVID 19 virus... there are lots of different corona viruses though...

COVID 19 is the name of the STORM. .. The GAME and its a mighty game is it not.
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Just fuck off already.

I’ve read some of your other posts and it’s clear the lines between reality/sanity/fantasy/ insanity are just a blur for you.
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Re: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


I am a pharmacist. I just want to make it clear that this article does not claim that IBU may worsen covid

Ace inhibitors include: lisinopril, enalipril, ramipril, etc

ARBS Iinclude: losartan, valsartan, irbasartan
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there is NO COVID 19 virus... there are lots of different corona viruses though...

COVID 19 is the name of the STORM. .. The GAME and its a mighty game is it not.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Just fuck off already.

I’ve read some of your other posts and it’s clear the lines between reality/sanity/fantasy/ insanity are just a blur for you.
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Pssst... sorry to be mean about her but myyy God, you know?

Anyway, make an account and you can put her on ignore. It’s too much to worry with all the silliness she puts out with everything else going on. I can’t even understand her most of the time, the poor thing.
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Re: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


I am a pharmacist. I just want to make it clear that this article does not claim that IBU may worsen covid

Ace inhibitors include: lisinopril, enalipril, ramipril, etc

ARBS Iinclude: losartan, valsartan, irbasartan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78611817


Pretty much says in the article the "the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19"

It also states that "ACE2-stimulating drugs increases the
risk of developing severe and fatal COVID-19."

And it also states that "ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

So not hard to see that an increase in ACE2 can facilitate the risk of developing severe and fatal COvid-19 infection....and ibuprofen can increase that ACE2.

So why would anyone want to take a chance by taking ibuprofen and help "facilitate" the infection in the first place when there are other options for pain relief.

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Re: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus
It appears based upon this information that the use of ACE inhibitors causes the increase of ACE2 expression which in turn facilitates and worsens Covid 19 virus.

Since the increase of ACE2 appears to facilitate or worsen the virus, then since Ibuprofen increases ACE2 it might not be wise to be taking ibuprofen with this virus.

"data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19....ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


I am a pharmacist. I just want to make it clear that this article does not claim that IBU may worsen covid

Ace inhibitors include: lisinopril, enalipril, ramipril, etc

ARBS Iinclude: losartan, valsartan, irbasartan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78611817


Pretty much says in the article the "the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19"

It also states that "ACE2-stimulating drugs increases the
risk of developing severe and fatal COVID-19."

And it also states that "ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen."

So not hard to see that an increase in ACE2 can facilitate the risk of developing severe and fatal COvid-19 infection....and ibuprofen can increase that ACE2.

So why would anyone want to take a chance by taking ibuprofen and help "facilitate" the infection in the first place when there are other options for pain relief.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094755


This article is based on conjecture- or a hypothesis. There is no data to show a statistically significant difference in outcomes yet.
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Well fuck. Uncle Intel here: I just received the exact same information from a friend's friend who works in a big hospital in Vienna. There are no valid numbers to prove this but there are Bug hinter that this is true.
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So, what should be used instead?
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Take a shower or a bath. Tepid water. Not hot, not cold water. Do as often as needed when your temperature is elevated.
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So, what should be used instead?
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Whiskey sour + Wet socks
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Plenty of water + Vit C + Sleep
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So, what should be used instead?
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Cannabis makes for a quick recovery (source: already had it)

Vaping a little organic tobacco probably wouldn't go amiss.





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