Breaking - VERY IMPORTANT - Taking anti-inflammatory drugs (Ibuprofen, Cortisone, etc) could be an aggravating factor of the infection

Is Tylenol and Paracetamol the same thing?
There is no difference between acetaminophen and paracetamol. They are two generic names for a chemical substance known as para-acetylaminophenol. All three of these are better known by its trade name (at least in the U.S.) of Tylenol.

Take Curcumin instead of synthetic anti-inflammatory drugs. It's anti-inflammatory properties are well supported by science and do not carry the side effects of synthetic drugs. It also is an immune support compound and increases BDNF.

I've been using it for a year now, and it works just as good, if not better, than Ibuprofen or Tylenol. And it's all natural.

I recommend taking nootropicsdepot.com's Longvida Curcumin formula as it's designed to increase bio absorbtion, something most producers don't usually care about (and which results in massive wastes of Curcumin because most of it doesn't get into your system).

Americans aren't familiar with the term "Paracetamol". We call it Tylenol or acetaminophen. Paracetamol is meaningless.

and destroy your liver.

raising the body temperature is how your body kills invaders. People that rush to lower theirs or their child's temperature are making a mistake.

Correct...let the fever rage and pack the patient in ice.

"Chloroquine phosphate has shown better anti-SARS-CoV-2 effects in recent studies, but this drug has no clear target of action. In our docking results, chloroquine phosphate is predicted to possibly combine with Nsp3b and E-channel. But we need to do further experiments to verify this conclusion."

Actually we do know it forces ionic zinc into the cell. Then the zinc blocks the replication process of the rna type invader.

500 mg 2x daily 10 days was used in china with good results

In SK
Hydroxy Chloroquine 400mg 2x daily first day
200mg 2x for 4 days

I use it for menstrual cramps because aspirin makes a person bleed more during their period. I know people don't want to hear the reasons people use Ibuprofen but we all don't use it for fevers.

Yes, paracetamol and aceteminophen are both Tylenol.

ASPIRIN, is a Non Steroidal Anti Inflammatory, and has the same biological mechanism of action as Ibuprofen and Naproxen Sodium (Motrin and Aleve).

Theoretically, if Ibuprofen is a danger to Covod-19 sufferers, then one should AVOID ASPIRIN AND ALEVE AS WELL.

Right now, the cough seems to be killing more people than the fever (inflammation)

I would personally recommend a LIGHT DOSING of codeine, because it has a pretty proud effect of respiratory depression, which means less inflammation and abrasion of the lungs, and therefore less vulnerability to further viral infection and bacterial infection...

As well, opioids suppress cytokine response, and temporarily lower testosterone (a powerful immunosuppressant).

A LIGHT DOSE, if needed.

Thanks. I have chloroquine. Ask pharmacist for some because you're going to the Congo, and the other anti-malarials all disagree with you... ;)

There was an article posted on here yesterday that appeared in Lancet Magazine.

It said that Ibuprofen could be detrimental.


It did NOT say anything about Cortisone.


It did not imply that the anti inflammatory property of the drugs were the problem.

It said something about Ibuprofen increasing ACE2 receptors.

Twitter is NOT a source for medical information.


This is just spreading DIS information.

What about the drugs such as Benadryl? Are they in this class?

USA has none of that stuff

Why?

There was an article posted on here yesterday that appeared in Lancet Magazine.

It said that Ibuprofen could be detrimental.


It did NOT say anything about Cortisone.


It did not imply that the anti inflammatory property of the drugs were the problem.

It said something about Ibuprofen increasing ACE2 expression.

Twitter is NOT a source for medical information.


This is just spreading DIS information.


This thread has the Lancet link .


There was an article posted on here yesterday that appeared in Lancet Magazine.

It said that Ibuprofen could be detrimental.


It did NOT say anything about Cortisone.


It did not imply that the anti inflammatory property of the drugs were the problem.

It said something about Ibuprofen increasing ACE2 expression.

Twitter is NOT a source for medical information.


This is just spreading DIS information.



There was an article posted on here yesterday that appeared in Lancet Magazine.

It said that Ibuprofen could be detrimental.


It did NOT say anything about Cortisone.


It did not imply that the anti inflammatory property of the drugs were the problem.

It said something about Ibuprofen increasing ACE2 expression.

Twitter is NOT a source for medical information.

This is the link containing the Lancet article:


Thread: Ibuprofen may worsen Covid 19 virus

This was all a recommendation from the French medical top dog. He said very little, just not to use ibuprofen as it can aggravate corvin19. He based this on a Chinese study which mostly talked about diabetes and hypertension patients that were worse off than the normal. Something to do with ACE and ACE2 inhibitors. But they said ibuprofen has an negative effect also on the ACE2 connectors so it should be avoided. Good size Covin19 patient cohorts.

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The French medical chief said to take Tylenol instead. I assume this would mean avoiding aspirin and aleve also. (NSAIDs)

High fever can cause brain damage so take something if it gets too high, otherwise let the fever help fight the infection. Normally it’s recommended to alternate ibuprofen and Tylenol since too much Tylenol can cause kidney damage. NAC ( N-Acetylcysteine) is used in ER for Tylenol ODs and for detox. Safe, FDA approved, cheap, also helps with immunity. So while you are saving your brain with Tylenol take some NAC also.

Last Edited by carterCZ on 03/14/2020 05:48 PM

No, Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is not an anti-inflammatory drug. It is an anti-histamine.

I have seen it recommended for fighting this, but I don't know if this is good advice or not?

THIS

When I was a kid, I went to an old doctor whose motto was
"Fever is your friend."
(Doctors were actually healers in those days)

If the fever gets too high, sponge off or take a cool bath.

Regular, old aspirin is an anti-viral.

Kidney damage, increased risk of heart attack, damage to the digestive system.

All NSAID's have risks of serious side effects. I no longer use any of them myself. Though, I would use Acetaminophen in the case of a very high fever.

"Adverse effects

See also: Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug
Adverse effects include nausea, dyspepsia, diarrhea, constipation, gastrointestinal ulceration/bleeding, headache, dizziness, rash, salt and fluid retention, and high blood pressure.[17][22]

Infrequent adverse effects include esophageal ulceration, heart failure, high blood levels of potassium, kidney impairment, confusion, and bronchospasm.[17] Ibuprofen can exacerbate asthma, sometimes fatally.[23]

Ibuprofen may be quantified in blood, plasma, or serum to demonstrate the presence of the drug in a person having experienced an anaphylactic reaction, confirm a diagnosis of poisoning in people who are hospitalized, or assist in a medicolegal death investigation. A monograph relating ibuprofen plasma concentration, time since ingestion, and risk of developing renal toxicity in people who have overdosed has been published.[24]

Cardiovascular risk
Along with several other NSAIDs, chronic ibuprofen use has been found correlated with risk of hypertension[25] and myocardial infarction (heart attack),[26] particularly among those treated chronically using high doses. On 9 July 2015, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) toughened warnings of increased heart attack and stroke risk associated with ibuprofen and related NSAIDs; the NSAID aspirin is not included in this warning.[27] The European Medicines Agency (EMA) issued similar warnings in 2015.[28][29]"

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Here is an objective article about use of steroids for SARS:
Pro/con clinical debate: Steroids are a key component in the treatment of SARS
The "cons" sound pretty bad, actually.
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Nice. Sold!

Antiviral activity of aspirin against RNA viruses of the
respiratory tract—an in vitro study

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Conclusions: These data demonstrate a specific antiviral activity of aspirin against influenza A virus and HRV. The mode of action against rhinoviruses is still unknown and
requires further investigation, as does the possibility of aspirin being effective in vivo
to treat the common cold.

Danke
Merci
Thank you OP!!!

aspirin too

Can anybody answer my question about serrapeptase?

so back to Codeine again :(
Cant get that easily these days without a doc...
so it'll have to be some

"codeine linctus"

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CONFESSIONS OF AN OPIATE-EATER

One 200ml bottle of the medicine contains 600mg of codeine. Codeine is converted into morphine once ingested, and this 600mg ends up as equivalent to about 90 milligrams of morphine. Taken orally, this has about the same effect as taking 20 to 30mg of morphine intravenously. If you fall over in the street and break your wrist, you might get injected with 10mg of morphine IV in the casualty department. So, just to reiterate, for less than two quid, at many pharmacies in the UK, right now, you can buy a dose of opiate analgesia that's about three times as strong as you'd get if you broke your wrist.

Opiate drugs (by which we mean morphine, codeine, dihydrocodeine – basically anything which has its roots in the opium poppy) are already legally available in this country.

Codeine linctus is probably the "gold standard" for people like me,

Yes and dammit all. Every pain med made for humans can cause the very thing it claims to help and also kill you in one form or another along the way. One kills your liver. One kills your stomach. One kills your heart or gives you strokes. Al pain meds are made to slow kill you. Dam pharma bitches,

well tylenol is not an anti inflammatory

I see no reason why it would cause any additional risk? On the other hand I don't necessarily see any indication it would be helpful in this case?

I have taken it to help with back pain. It did seem to be helpful but also seemed to cause me to get blood blisters on my tongue when I ate salty foods.