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Human To Human Bird Flu Transmission Is CONFIRMED - Prepare Yourself And Your Family For The Outbreak

 
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A new analysis has confirmed that bird flu spread from person to person in Indonesia in April, U.S. researchers report in what appears to be a disturbing development for the infectious disease.

Health officials around the world have been closely monitoring the H5N1 strain of avian influenza spreading among birds from Asia to Africa to Europe.

So far, the strain rarely infects humans. But infectious disease experts are worried if it evolves so that it can spread easily from person to person, it may be the source of the next influenza pandemic, for which the globe is thought to be well overdue.

Since 2003, H5N1 has infected 322 people and killed 195. Most have been infected directly by birds. But a few clusters of cases have been noted for which no other explanation can be found except person-to-person transmission.

Biostatistician Ira Longini and colleagues at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle looked at two such recent clusters -- one in which eight family members died in Sumatra in 2006, and another in Turkey, in which eight people were infected and four died.

Experts were almost certain the Sumatra cases were human-to-human transmission, but were eager to see more proof. Longini's team claims they have found that proof, reporting in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases.

Using a computerized disease-transmission model that took into account the number of infected cases, the number of people potentially exposed, the viral-incubation period and other parameters, the researchers produced the first statistical confirmation of humans contracting the disease from each other.

How the cluster likely spread

The cluster likely began with a 37-year-old woman, who had been exposed to dead poultry and chicken feces, the presumed source of infection. She then probably passed the virus to her 10-year-old nephew who then passed it to his father.

The possibility that the boy infected his father was supported by genetic sequencing data. Other person-to-person transmissions in the cluster were backed up with statistical data.

All but one of the flu victims died.

Local health authorities eventually placed more than 50 relatives and close contacts under voluntary quarantine and the infections stopped. But Longini's team does not believe the quarantine did the trick; they believe the virus simply burned out.

"It went two generations and then just stopped, but it could have gotten out of control," Longini said in a statement.

"The world really may have dodged a bullet with that one, and the next time, we might not be so lucky."

The researchers now estimate the secondary-attack rate, which is the risk that one person will infect another, is at about 29 per cent. This is similar to what is seen for regular, seasonal influenza A in the United States.

As for the cluster in Turkey, Longini's team could not find statistical evidence of human-to-human transmission.

"There probably was person-to-person spread there as well but we couldn't get all the information we needed for the analysis," biostatistician Yang Yang said.

Longini's team also says they have developed a tool to run quick tests on disease outbreaks to see if dangerous epidemics or pandemics may be developing. The software product, called TranStat, would be available free of charge on the National Institutes of Health's Models of Infectious Disease Agent Study, or MIDAS, website.

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A prophet with a perfect 32 year track record (100 percent accuracy) says the Bird Flu is coming and millions are going to die:

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Im sorry however...and please dont take this the wrong way...your stupid...just pure stupid > oh yeah please stop please stop using our air










Human To Human Bird Flu Transmission Is Confirmed - Prepare Yourself And Your Family For The Outbreak

[link to news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca]

A new analysis has confirmed that bird flu spread from person to person in Indonesia in April, U.S. researchers report in what appears to be a disturbing development for the infectious disease.

Health officials around the world have been closely monitoring the H5N1 strain of avian influenza spreading among birds from Asia to Africa to Europe.

So far, the strain rarely infects humans. But infectious disease experts are worried if it evolves so that it can spread easily from person to person, it may be the source of the next influenza pandemic, for which the globe is thought to be well overdue.

Since 2003, H5N1 has infected 322 people and killed 195. Most have been infected directly by birds. But a few clusters of cases have been noted for which no other explanation can be found except person-to-person transmission.

Biostatistician Ira Longini and colleagues at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle looked at two such recent clusters -- one in which eight family members died in Sumatra in 2006, and another in Turkey, in which eight people were infected and four died.

Experts were almost certain the Sumatra cases were human-to-human transmission, but were eager to see more proof. Longini's team claims they have found that proof, reporting in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases.

Using a computerized disease-transmission model that took into account the number of infected cases, the number of people potentially exposed, the viral-incubation period and other parameters, the researchers produced the first statistical confirmation of humans contracting the disease from each other.

How the cluster likely spread

The cluster likely began with a 37-year-old woman, who had been exposed to dead poultry and chicken feces, the presumed source of infection. She then probably passed the virus to her 10-year-old nephew who then passed it to his father.

The possibility that the boy infected his father was supported by genetic sequencing data. Other person-to-person transmissions in the cluster were backed up with statistical data.

All but one of the flu victims died.

Local health authorities eventually placed more than 50 relatives and close contacts under voluntary quarantine and the infections stopped. But Longini's team does not believe the quarantine did the trick; they believe the virus simply burned out.

"It went two generations and then just stopped, but it could have gotten out of control," Longini said in a statement.

"The world really may have dodged a bullet with that one, and the next time, we might not be so lucky."

The researchers now estimate the secondary-attack rate, which is the risk that one person will infect another, is at about 29 per cent. This is similar to what is seen for regular, seasonal influenza A in the United States.

As for the cluster in Turkey, Longini's team could not find statistical evidence of human-to-human transmission.

"There probably was person-to-person spread there as well but we couldn't get all the information we needed for the analysis," biostatistician Yang Yang said.

Longini's team also says they have developed a tool to run quick tests on disease outbreaks to see if dangerous epidemics or pandemics may be developing. The software product, called TranStat, would be available free of charge on the National Institutes of Health's Models of Infectious Disease Agent Study, or MIDAS, website.

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A prophet with a perfect 32 year track record (100 percent accuracy) says the Bird Flu is coming and millions are going to die:

[link to www.jewishprophet.com]
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I don't buy this for a minute.

However, I do think it's the first "propaganda" getting us ready for whatever the Bush Junta and the NWO have planned for us.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger

Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.


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83140- you're stupid. See how I spelled "you're", not "your" IDIOT
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No thanks.
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No thanks.
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What do you mean "No thanks".....the bird flu is coming whether you want it or not.
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bump for Truth

People you need to wake up!
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Oh hogwash! Did you even read the article?

From the article:
"...Local health authorities eventually placed more than 50 relatives and close contacts under voluntary quarantine and the infections stopped. But Longini's team does not believe the quarantine did the trick; they believe the virus simply burned out.

"It went two generations and then just stopped, but it could have gotten out of control," Longini said in a statement.

"The world really may have dodged a bullet with that one, and the next time, we might not be so lucky." ..."


It FIZZLED OUT.

Now, should we be on our toes? Yes.

Should we have our passports and bug-out bags ready? Yes.

Will Bush declare a national quarantine at the drop of a hat? Yes.

Will we be forced to live within our FEMA Regions during that time? Yes.

FemaRegion

Could ALL travel to and from any FEMA Region during the national quarantine be stopped? HELL YES.

This means you might not be able to get your favorite California citrus if you live in the NY Region.

STOCK UP while there's plenty of food available to purchase.

The Bush Junta have itchy trigger fingers.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger

Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.


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Truth my ass. They've been trying this every year for the past few years. Give me a break.

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And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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This reminds me of a phone call I got yesterday from my partner who is a trucker...he said he read a billboard while passing though WV 2 days ago to be prepaired: Avian Flu was coming. That is not verbatim, but it is very close.
Grapefruit Seed extract has been proven to kill bird flu virus in it's currrent form. I don't know or really care whether it's transmissable to humans.. (not afraid of death) but I do keep my GSE on hand...it's good for lots of things.
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We don't see much in the MSM about Bird Flu these days, but if you toggletext the foreign press in areas where BF is really entrenched it'll give you plenty to worry about.

BF has been identified in 60 countries so far (in wild and domestic birds) and in a half dozen or so of these countries, human cases keep popping up all the time. Every time BF is found, governments rush in to cull all the birds in the infected areas and then they throw down what's become known as a "Tamiflu blanket" onto all the people in the vicinity who may've had contact with the birds. Tamiflu is the only drug available right now that fights off human cases of BF, but only if it's given in the first 24 hours after symptoms occur. Some strains of BF are developing resistance to Tamiflu now, while others require higher and higher dosages of the drug to be effective. Without Tamiflu, BF has a case fatality rate of about 80%...a huge mortality as far as flu goes.

It is suspected that these Tamiflu blankets may be masking human-to-human transmission of BF because those who take it often test negative for BF despite showing clear symptoms of the virus. Because these people are lucky enough to be treated in time, they recover - and are therefore never included in the official WHO tally of BF-affected persons. With that in mind, when you hear that only 200 or so people have died from BF so far, remember that thousands upon thousands of others have shown signs of infection, have been treated with Tamiflu and have then been quarantined for extended periods until they recovered. Remember also that this whole routine of chasing down and then intervening to tamp down BF flare-ups happens at least several times each month now.

So, as long as the affected countries remain vigilent, this BF scare is a non-issue, right? Well, maybe not. What worries me is that many bird species have now become asymptomatic despite being infected with BF. Sick and dying birds were always the point of reference for government/healthcare interventions - but that's becoming less and less the case now. BF just pops up in humans out of nowhere and without warning lately, and it increasingly does so even when birds are not around at all. This suggests that not only may birds be shedding the virus all over without detection - but that maybe some other animal(s) are acting as hidden reservoirs as well. The other thing that worries me is that certain countries, especially those hard-hit by BF, are starting to take measures that are really enough to make your hair stand on end.

For example, a couple months ago Indonesia announced that they would begin vaccinating their population against BF starting this September. The WHO urgently requested that they not do this because BF had not yet evolved into a pandemic strain - and because some half-assed vaccine could cause the BF virus to become even more difficult to deal with down the road. Indonesia has said it will go forward with the vaccinations anyway. In fact, when BF started popping up in humans all over Bali this last couple weeks or so, Indonesia allegedly went ahead and vaccinated some 300 people who'd come into contact with these BF victims. This Bali vaccination story appeared in the Indonesian press exactly once before it was removed. Shortly after that, the Indonesian government announced that all BF-related news would henceforth be coordinated only through a single, fully-informed agency.

What is going on in Indonesia, do you suppose? Vaccination is the remedy of last resort - so why are they insisting upon that now? And why are they suddently cracking down on the press? I guess we may never know. But still, it gives me plenty to worry about.
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Last year the major media was in a frenzy over bird flu, and nothing happened. Guess the plot to spread it around and kill millions failed, and probably will again this year.
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I miss SARS. Wonder when that's gonna resurface.
Well it seems so real I can see it
And it seems so real I can feel it
And it seems so real I can taste it
And it seems so real I can hear it
So why can't I touch it?
So why can't I touch it?


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On a related issue, right now in Australia we are going through massive quarantine in regard to an 'Equine Flu" outbreak.

This has nothing whatever to do with Bird Flu and it does not affect people at all, but the 'Quarantine procedure" if you like is getting a "real time" - work out.

They are monitoring all of the highways and roadways for 'illegal" movement of horses. (years of imprisonment and also massive fines if you are caught moving horses at all)

Huge electronic signs over all the roadways telling you up to date information - road blocks, all in place.

All Horse events (Shows, Gymkhanas, racing) has been stopped in NSW aND QLD for 2 whole months. this is in the busiest time (spring) in the year for horse events.

This is the biggest Quarantine operation in Australia's history.

To me that fact that "Bird Flu", is just around the corner - is NO coincidence.

This thing got out "on purpose", and the government needed something to sharpen up response times, coordinate medical personnel, coordinate the bureaucracy, find properties for further quarantine, mobilize response teams and mobilize the police.

This whole thing sharply parallels what would be needed as a response to a bird flu outbreak.
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Fuck your bird flue. You are a fear mongering goverment shill. Bird flue is a made up in fantasy land. Just an excuse for UN troops to enter America, when it has been decided that martial law will be enacted.
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Bird flu has been around a very long time. Most serious chicken ranchers already know about it, and know how to prevent it.
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...not so sure this is b.s./shill material. Seems legit.

Excerpt from: [link to microbiologybytes.wordpress.com]

The implications of this are very worrying indeed: a lethal virus which can bind both bird and human receptors was selected for in a single bird-human transmission event - just like the Spanish Flu H1N1 HA reconstructed from archival tissue samples, which we should need no reminding, went on to kill in excess of 60 million people. In the age of the steam train and ship…. This means that we could be just one infection away from The Big One - with death tolls predicted to be in the range of tens of millions.
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Fuck your bird flue. You are a fear mongering goverment shill. Bird flue is a made up in fantasy land. Just an excuse for UN troops to enter America, when it has been decided that martial law will be enacted.
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You obviously have nothing intelligent to say about this.
Please keep quiet.
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Bird flu has been around a very long time. Most serious chicken ranchers already know about it, and know how to prevent it.
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That's somewhat true.
But can you say the same thing about chicken ranchers in Indonesia, Vietnam, North Korea, Egypt ?
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This reminds me of a phone call I got yesterday from my partner who is a trucker...he said he read a billboard while passing though WV 2 days ago to be prepaired: Avian Flu was coming. That is not verbatim, but it is very close.
Grapefruit Seed extract has been proven to kill bird flu virus in it's currrent form. I don't know or really care whether it's transmissable to humans.. (not afraid of death) but I do keep my GSE on hand...it's good for lots of things.
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Hi, do you mean Grapeseed Oil? I'd value your advice on what its helpful for.

hf
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I don't buy this for a minute.

However, I do think it's the first "propaganda" getting us ready for whatever the Bush Junta and the NWO have planned for us.
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i'm not sure if 'buying it' or not 'buying it' makes any difference.

one day, the bird flue WILL mutate and WILL spread from human to human. whether it has already done it is not really the point here.

when it happens all of the 'not buying it' will turn to horror.

learn not to fear by being still.
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...
They've been trying this every year for the past few years. ...
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Who is "they" ?
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Now we are starting to get some good information out on this thread.

Anyone else heard anything?
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Anyone else heard anything?
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[link to www.irishhealth.com]

An influenza pandemic is the biggest threat to international health, according to the World Health Organisation (WHO).

In its 2007 annual report, the WHO says a similar outbreak to the so-called ‘Spanish influenza’, which swept the world from 1917, is the most feared threat to health security. That pandemic killed up to 40 million people, many more than in the First World War, which was just ending as the flu took hold.

Avian, or bird flu, could wreak havoc if it spread widely from birds and poultry. To date fewer than 200 people have died of bird flu, but scientists and doctors are wary of its potential to spread.
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Bird flu could have become worldwide pandemic: study
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A new study by a US university has apparently confirmed for the first time that bird flu has been transmitted from human to human.

It is the nightmare possibility that health authorities have been fearing ever since the disease first appeared.

It happened in Indonesia last year and reveals the world only narrowly avoided a global bird flu pandemic.

Researchers from the University of Washington have studied the case of a woman on the Indonesian island of Sumatra who caught the H5N1 bird flu virus from poultry in May last year.

Professor Ira Longini, who led the research, says they have confirmed that not only did she pass the virus on to her 10-year-old nephew, it was then transmitted to other relatives.

Seven of eight family members who caught the disease were soon dead.

"This proves there is person-to-person transmission in this case, in that setting, in Indonesia, northern Sumatra," he said.

Professor Longini says this shows there is a serious threat of a bird flu pandemic.

"It could happen and will happen eventually, and this simply confirms this particular H5N1 virus is capable of person-to-person transmission," he said.
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Allocation of antivirals for flu pandemic workers stirs debate
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Public health officials across Canada are grappling with the medical and ethical issues of giving front-line health-care workers preventive antiviral drugs if a flu pandemic strikes.

The federal and provincial governments have stockpiled more than 50 million doses of antiviral drugs to prepare for a pandemic.
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Ontario hospitals to stockpile infection-control masks
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In a bid to protect Ontario's nurses from potentially life-threatening diseases like SARS and avian flu, the province will spend up to $55 million to stockpile N95 respirators, the Health Ministry announced Thursday.
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The respirators — moulded masks frequently used in industrial workplaces — are designed to provide a higher level of respiratory protection for the wearer compared to looser-fitting, thinner surgical masks.

Nurses said wider use of the N95, which can be fitted to an individual's face, could have prevented their colleagues from getting sick when they became the front-line workers during the Toronto-area SARS outbreak in 2003.

"By investing in better equipment, we are putting the lessons we learned from SARS into action," Health Minister George Smitherman said in a news release.
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Minnesota to get U.S. funds to help gird for flu pandemic
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Minnesota will receive an additional $1.3 million in federal funds to help prepare for a potential pandemic flu outbreak, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said Thursday.

The funding will help the state stockpile medical supplies, develop plans to distribute them, plan alternate medical care sites and conduct exercises on how to help a surge of flu patients.

"This comes at a good time," said Aggie Leitheiser, director of the State Health Department's Office of Emergency Preparedness.

The department is developing procedures for hospitals to use in event of a flu pandemic, and some hospitals will begin exercises next year to practice for an outbreak.

The $1.3 million is the first grant the state has received to help hospitals deal with a possible flu pandemic, Leitheiser said.

Minnesota also has received about $6 million from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for public-health efforts to deal with a flu outbreak and expects another $3 million soon.

The federal funding is part of a larger effort in the past five years to help states prepare for potential bioterrorism, infectious diseases and natural disasters that might cause mass casualties.

Some of that preparation helped sharpen the response when the I-35W bridge collapsed Aug. 1, Leitheiser said.

The grant announced Thursday is part of $75 million being distributed nationally. It supplements $430 million announced two months ago for general disaster preparation, with $12 million coming to Minnesota.
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HK calls for regional cooperation against avian flu on air travel
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An official of the Hong Kong civil aviation on Thursday called for regional cooperation to curb the spread of avian flu on air travel.

At the opening of a two-day meeting of the International Civil Aviation, Norman Lo, Director-General of Civil Aviation of the government of Hong Kong Special Administrative Region said that the International Civil Aviation Organization has initiated the arrangement to coordinate the cooperative arrangements among the participating jurisdictions and airports to reduce the risk of spreading avian influenza and similar illnesses via air travel.
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Work: A Thing You Do, Not A Place You Go
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For years commentators have been advocating a broader adoption of home or flexible working to address a myriad of issues created by our ever demanding 24/7 lifestyle.

Furthermore, with predictions of a flu pandemic in the not-too-distant future, there is now an even stronger case for home/flexible working. In the UK, the Health Protection Agency suggests that the most likely rate of infection and mortality will be in the order of 25% (clinical attack rate) and 0.37% (case-fatality rate) respectively.

With schools and public transport shut down to prevent infection, employees simply will not be able to get to work. Enabling flexible and home working is not just the only sensible solution to society’s current challenges but also a failsafe approach that will enable real continuity in the face of forthcoming business and economic upheaval.

According to the government’s own chief medical officer, Sir Liam Donaldson, it is a matter of when, not if, a flu pandemic develops over the next few years. And, when such a pandemic occurs, within a matter of weeks the world will have fallen into a sustained period of business disruption, with illness and death on a scale that will overwhelm health resources worldwide. England and Wales alone could face more than 600,000 deaths, causing the economy to come to a stand still.

At the first sign of a pandemic, governments will close schools and public transport in a bid to minimise viral transmission, while businesses will have to shut off air conditioning units to prevent circulation of contagion. Immediately, whether they are ill or not, employees will be unable or unwilling to make it to a central office with the fears of secondary and tertiary infection spreading within months of the initial outbreak. Businesses could also effectively stop, for an indefinite period.
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Re: Human To Human Bird Flu Transmission Is CONFIRMED - Prepare Yourself And Your Family For The Outbreak
Okay, this is one of the old-timers of GLP here and I'm snortin mad at all the BS going on with silly debunkers and all their foolishness. Especially when it looks like TSHF is coming up on us fast & close now. I say get yor heads outta the sands and listen up close, people. Here's some stuff that may relate to this thread bigtime.

First of all, look at the bigger picture and what all is happening. The economy is crashing, reports of runs on banks all around globe in past couple weeks, bizarre weather with freak disasters all over the place... HELLO ... do you not see the signs that we are on brink of "all hell breaks loose"...? And if things start turning sour, then the ptb need to buy time ... what better way than to have the majority of public too sick to stir up any trouble in the streets while they head for their bunkers in boondocks?

Next ....... get it your head that whether there's some virus spreading naturally -OR- being deliberately spread by terrorists or black ops agents (take yor pick), the outcome will still be same for you / your family-loved ones.

Third, more than a few of us oldsters and research hounds are seeing very clear warning signs that something major is up!

And when I say "virus" it can mean that what is being called the official Bird Flu virus [H5N1] or some other variant -or- any debilitating contagion causing severe illness that will sicken or kill a large majority of the the population. So don't get so hung up on labels and word games.

IMPORTANT: Right now -- go study this thread here on this forum, started on August 27th ... many replies are talking about the really strange and serious (deadly) symptoms emerging from the WEST NILE VIRUS (WNV) "EPIDEMIC" that's appears to be starting to spread around all over USA!!!

>> SERIOUS question on nationwide symptoms!! <<
Posted: 8/27/07
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Guess what's being figured out on that thread (drumroll) ... that WNV appears to be another form of a BIRD INFLUENZA VIRUS = so this is a big hmmmmmmm????

And it just might be that things could happen so that we might not really know the difference if a bad illness suddenly starts spreading around like wildfire. And consider how it could be that we don't really know what's really going on if people suddenly start getting bad sick in massive numbers ... for example: we're told in news reports by MMS --> "oh, it's just West Nile Virus" like the outbreaks are no big deal. Yet we begin to quickly see the same type outcomes as if a Pandemic is developing or it might even be a BCW bioattack (but we will never be told that type info!) Meanwhile, people are flooding every hospital & clinic, doctor offices are closing because of the the wild crowds, panic & chaos... and elite types with $$ & resources may be heading far away out into the hills to get away asap! And victims of this illness are suffering severe impairment and even many deaths start taking place. It would be pure hell no matter whether you think it's Bird Flu or something else or don't even believe in such a possibility as this could be happening for real!

Remember ... we the public can only know what we are *told* or led to *believe* by the various "officials" that run the show ... the ptb have iron grip over all systems like CDC, etc. Furthermore .... never forget that NATIONAL SECURITY is the prime motivator behind everything that the officials implement = they (the ptb) do NOT give one hoot about the actual people and whether or not they survive. We seen this with the dismantiling of our nuclear bunkers and the civil defense programs. TPB control everything including MMS so we are at their mercy. But ... at least in the early stages of any such event, we are still able to communicate via phones & Internet -- but when things start happening of major significance, that is all gonna stop dead cold including services we ALL take for granted: EMS like police, fire, water-sewer, electric. Think "Mad Max" movie with Mel Gibson. So in this time still left as normal, before whatever is at hand actually occurs or is attempted, we at least have what what we directly observe/ experience ourselves --- or hear from trusted sources like family/friends and can prep and share concerns with others.

Here's more info that seems relevant:

1. Some contacts have connections with people working inside agencies of EMS + Public Health ... they are ALL having unplanned meetings and hastily set-up drills ... this is for real. Teams have been set up to be activated at any time and swing into action.

2. Just last week was in ER with elderly relative that had flu type sickness ... Doctor was very thorough to ask many questions and saying they are now monitoring for any cases of similar symptoms so as to immediately alert local/ state health systems at any hour.

3. In DFW Texas, this week at local grocery stores, etc are tables with boxes of pamplets that have appeard recently -- these are titled on front cover:

"PANDEMIC FLU PLANNING" --
What you can do for yourself and your family
Fort Worth Public Health
BIOTERRORISM PREPAREDNESS
817-871-6643
[link to www.fortworthgov.org]

Note that the title says in caps: BIOTERRORISM PREPAREDNESS -- yet the pamplet denotes that it is planning for Pandemic Flu --- so go figure, wonder what is really going on?

Found this page now there @ Health Dept site -- it is on Pandemic Flu with links to more info: [link to www.fortworthgov.org]

These brochures were not there 2-3 weeks ago on last shopping trip. I am holding one in my hand right now ... it was at "Sack & Save" Grocery this week - in English + Spanish. There are instructions inside about basics, how to avoid catching illness, etc. And then there are the pages of lists of what to stock up and buy at store for up to ***4 WEEKS*** of being in quarantine. Emergency foods, water, baby formula, diapers, fuel, meds, batteries, radio, flashlights, etc = LONG LISTS of stuff!!!

Last ... please go read that thread linked above - the one about the WNV and nationwide symptoms being reported ---> this $#!+ will freak you out as you start connecting the dots and then hear the reports of new WNV cases on local TV news in your own area of USA. And keep in mind, mosquitoes are very, very convenient vectors of disease - perfect for acts of biowarfare. And this is some super serious stuff we're talking about with the WNV outbreaks takin place here, folks!





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