Yes, you can call me an asshole - a thread on IQ

Makes sense to me.

I think about how much I lost by dumbing it down. Were the conversations of endless stunted thoughts and six-word sentences worth it? Did I gain anything when we grew older and those became marijuana-stunted thoughts (I never did like pot but the rest seemed to love it so I tried for them for a while) and six-word sentences?

It's helpful to "know the language" and be able to speak to the cashier at the grocery story in a way that can be comprehended, but I can stutter through that in ten languages with a few shrugs and smiles. Did I need to give away half of my brain for it?

Pointing out a spec in someones eye and not seeing the plank in yours.

Everybody knows they should not use crack.

You were not sending some sort of magical advice. Figuring out why they need to self medicate in such a drastic manner would be a better use of your time.

You need to find some humbleness. How many hours of study did you waste just to find out something wasn't true?

Einsteins theory of relativity was just proven false. Gravitational waves exist. When you get really smart, you will stop and question everything you think you know. You will realise how little you do know, and you will find that humbleness you so desperately need.

Other people are not "doing it wrong" they are just doing it differently than you. And that should not bother you so much.

The wrong crowd is genuinely easy to fall in with. I was hanging out at Yale long before I was old enough to be a student. Power and drugs were everywhere. Easy to ensnare a kid who was still naive enough to fall into a lot of the traps, and nearly impossible to fight your way out of.

Mind you, that never stopped me from fighting my way out, but I'm kind of unique and it still took decades to mostly untangle myself from people with more power than me.

Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 03/17/2020 09:55 AM

There's a massive difference between confidence and arrogance.

Been talking to people since it started, the psyops from watching too much T.V. has doomed them.

I told my mother in law to keep her son that has downsyndrom at home, she is like oh no I can't make him stay in he needs to go out, then a weeks later a doctor friend calls her saying keep him inside, now she calls saying she didn't know it was that risky...

I only took offense at you "dumb blonde" reference - just kidding, lol.

I score about 118 on my very best day- closer to 113-114 per usual. Still, I understand what you mean about "dumb people". I think, damn- when I'm the smartest one in the room it is a disturbing situation.

Actually, numerous people in my family are in the 130-140 range and I believe I have benefitted from being around them
with my more limited IQ.

The entire reason I titled this thread like I did is because I learned long ago that there are people out there who genuinely believe if you say you are intelligent, then you must be conceited, and there is no way to argue with them. They are dead set in their beliefs.

It's like when they say all white people are definitely racist, or all men are absolutely misogynists. They simply don't have the analytical skills to think any more complexly than that. I don't see any reason to waste time on them.

It's easier to just let them get it out and say it, because they're going to need to before they feel better about themselves and their own intelligence level.

Honestly to me, it seemed like sometimes the so-called "smart kids" were the wrong crowd. More stuck-up and mean and generally into themselves. Looking down their noses at people and such. And once we got a little bit older everyone was drinking and having sex anyway, so there was really little difference in terms of morality or general naughtiness.

I'd rather hang out with less intelligent nice people than a bunch of smart a-holes.

They usually respond to authority.

If you need one of them to listen and don't want to wait, it's important to phrase it as "Doctor _____" said or "Mayor _______" said.

Unfortunately, I hate lying so I usually can't get myself to go that far.

Most people aren't real people. Organic portals with base level software.

They couldn't tell their ass from a hole in the ground if they tried

I heard that democrats usually score 2 digits.

Sounds like you've got an easy life, then.

You have every 98 out of 100 people to hang out with.

You don't have to dig and search just for someone to connect with over your beer.

Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 03/17/2020 10:08 AM

There are days I could go for this theory.

Or the one in which only a few people actually have souls.

That was my experience growing up. I was reading newspapers at 5 yrs and had read all books in our home around 10 years. Then I’d start alphabetically and check out books at the library systematically going through the racks. We’d move often and a new library was like a new candy store for me as a kid.

But, yeah, it’s pretty lonely which is op’s plaintive complaint.

Now it’s lonelier than ever, don’t you think? I try to talk with my family about what’s happening and I see that pained faces of having to question msm pablum. They get very defensive and shut off discussions with “but the flu, meh”. They can’t literally can’t think past what msm has told them and their cognitive dissonance forces them to shut me off. It makes me a bit of a social pariah in my own family. What’s sadder is that they are, for the most part, highly educated with graduate degrees and socially prominent.

It’s like talking Greek to them and friends, also. When this flu fear started, I mentioned the similarities with the Dutch tulip craze and the book “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” by Makay and they’d never heard of either one. I was dumbfounded but then it started to make sense: how tptb can instigate such a draconian shutdown of our socioeconomic livelihoods within a short week, really. They not only get compliance, but have instilled such righteousness to the rational of the quarantine that I have to endure people patronizingly extoll the virtues of “social distancing” and whatever other newspeak tptb come up with each propaganda cycle.

Last Edited by WRogers on 03/17/2020 10:20 AM

So, I feel as the OP writes. Yet, this is the response I had for my (cell-f). Integrity and love does go beyond basic lizard brain irritation(I'm a dick too). So, I read comments from fellow humans to help me along the way. Thank you for both perspectives. Hey can one of you spare a couple squares of T.P?

This thread does nothing to shed light on the issue of IQ as a driver of societal problems-- i.e., how IQ disparity divides society and creates wealth or impoverishment.

All this thread does is aggrandize you, yourself and you, in typical lower level chimp fashion. It does nothing to solve societal problems--- and it only celebrates yourself.. In essence, this thread is worthless to anyone but yourself. This thread shows that your social IQ is rather low. and based on arrogance.

Do you care about your fellow man?

If so, you should do something with your "highish" IQ gift--rather than brag about YOURSELF to the world.

And I say highish, because 130 is smart but not genius.... It qualifies you to be an engineer, lawyer or doctor if you apply yourself, and work hard but probably not a physicist or a top notch mathematician.

Why not encourage those with IQs of 90 or below to attend trade or art schools where they can make something decent out of their lives and work hard?

God loves ALL people regardless of their intelligence,. but the one thing God hates is arrogance and a nose held high..

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I've been through a war and genocide, being raised by a psychotic spook, more countries than I can count, winter camping, chemo (not my choice), radiation therapy (also not my choice), injuries, mountain climbing, swimming across a few miles of ocean (small waves, thank god), and a few other crazy things. I don't die. I do, however, come out with permanent injuries, as my MRIs can attest to.

Nonsense. Intellectual snobbism at it's peak. So you can't have a beer with someone from 95 to 98? Where's the super intellect at work here?

EDIT: That was a tad rude sorry...I've got issues too. One has a lifetime to make friends. Choose them well...not all of them need to be clever...and it doesn't hurt the ego to always be the smarter person in the room...and sometimes you actually meet someone smarter than yourself...horrendous, but exiting at the same time.

Last Edited by Dan Dread on 03/17/2020 11:49 AM

hey asshole!

lead dont run

"no one i think is in my tree, i mean it must be high or low"

j.lennon

Normally I enter these threads because I expect to see someone with a slightly above average IQ complaining about people. I do this because it's a sort of self confirmation bias for me that stupid people are everywhere. I mean everywhere. It's unfortunate that we focus on issues such as 'social justice' when we have so many unintelligent buffoons wandering the streets. It's not even their fault. The school system is a train wreck, at least in the states.

It's important to remember that intelligence is on a bell curve; that most of the people here aren't going to be on the high end by the simple law of averages. It's just a simple fact; it's sort of like those aptitude tests they made us all take in school. I didn't personally think about it until many years later but as nice as it was to hear I was in the top 98-99% for percentile for every single subject was great for me but ... that meant that the vast majority of my peers were underneath that value.

Moreover, intelligence confers SOME advantages but also some serious disadvantages. As the previous poster mentioned, social intelligence is ... a whole different animal. It's ironic to me that he posted about going to trade school. To me, that was the most intelligent choice and I was sitting at a 160 IQ when tested at 17 by a psychologist. My social intelligence is mediocre by comparison and I envy those who are so easily able to adapt to social situations.

A further example of these difficulties:
When I was going to school as a kid, sitting at the top of the class of the gifted class - I was a crap student. I hated the work. Everything came easily to me, so I didn't want to do homework. I got kicked out of the gifted program for literally refusing to do all the extra homework. I told them to simply send me back to the regular classes. The same thing happened at virtually all four schools I went to. Sure, sounds like bragging to say you have a 160 IQ but honestly it causes more problems than it solves. I bombed out of AP algebra II out of spite (it was my third high school and third time taking it and I simply didn't like the teacher ... gave her the finger and dared her to fail her best student and she did). In the end, I took trade school to avoid dealing with collegiate bullshit and to get out of a nasty school (long story).

Nowadays I'm making 100k+ a year doing top tier systems engineer work after 20+ years in the industry. I could have probably done more with my intellect but I make enough to be satisfied, I mostly enjoy my work, and my career generally puts me in contact with higher intelligence people on a day to day basis.

The funny thing is I have no disdain for the unintelligent personally; I have sympathy. I've done sh*t labor jobs and been 'working poor'. It's a tough life for everyone. What bothers me are the dunning-kruger types as mentioned previously. I've no problem with people being honest about their intelligence - the fact is we've all got skills and abilities and strengths. I cannot, however, personally abide a liar.

./rant

Anyways, to the OP - you're not alone out there. It's a tough life and we've all got our roles to play. That goes to everyone - own your strengths and harness your weaknesses. Some of you are capable of doing things I could only dream of (like changing my brakes or framing for drywall). Don't be afraid to 'look dumb' - just be an expert at what you're good at.

BTW, Comedian says howdy ;)

Just one thing to say and that is "Amen" brother

Man, I just re-read my post.
I'm such an arrogant d*ckhead lol. There's that mediocre social intellect raising it's head again.

:|

Last Edited by HolyBeast on 03/17/2020 10:50 AM

Right.

I go between 147 and 165 usually. And I don't care either. There are things more important than intelligence/capacity to learn. Decency, kindness and compassion are truly important.

As to being annoyed with the average, I'm a full on introvert which is helpful. I've also determined that compassion for those who can't seem to think is really important. And I find distancing myself from them to be helpful in ameliorating the frustration level. I try to break things down to soundbites as much as possible to help people understand things.

Wishing you well in your corn teen!

I hate when people say high iq is arrogant.

I was born with it. I did not ask for this gift. I did not even know I had it until my son tested and scored so high at age six they gave him an adult iq test just to verify.

I wept when they told me because I believed something was the matter with me because I was not as smart as my brother the engineer.

I’m super smart? I am? Why do I feel so hollow then?

So now I’m arrogant too? Because I have to work to over explain everything?

Do you know how I feel when I have to explain to the clerk that this item is broccoli not celery?

Or how it feels to put in an apostrophe for the tenth time in the word let’s?

Or the choice of intelligent guy whose critical eye makes me feel four versus the regular iq guy that I have to overlook his poor grammar so I can have the toilet fixed and walls painted without calling in a tradesman?

I’m arrogant and now they say I’m an empath. I did not ask for any of this high iq empath stuff. Now they tell me it’s a gift and I have to share. Why? The others don’t have to share.

Sorry. Surely somebody has felt this way. Thanks for letting me vent.

Interesting times.

Yes, you can run faster than the sick people. Same as leaving them to freeze on Everest on the way to the top.

I watched the senile man rushing to make his coffee in the 55 plus every day for five years, beating the grounds out of the filter into the filthy trash can every morning.

Was he better for it?

Has it made you a better person?

Do your children love you?