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Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19

 
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Use of Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine, Mefloquine, Quinine, and Related Quinoline Drugs Risks Sudden and Lasting Neuropsychiatric Effects from Idiosyncratic Neurotoxicity

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 Quoting: da kat


Bull shit, it is used by my sister for arthritis, she is in the old person group.
It is known to stop viruses because it an antiviral as Malaria is a virus caused by mosquitoes. Actually it knows over fifty years not twenty-something years and has been tested and passed long time ago. Very few have problems and these problems can be stopped.

Quit putting out shit that can cause problems. The biggest worry people should have is them pushing a vaccine before the tests are done. It has been in development waiting for this very outbreak! No, we are not going to take a deadly vaccine.
 Quoting: hankie


Malaria is caused by Plasmodium parasites not a virus. So I call bullshit on your bullshit.
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Chloroquine is an amp-up version of vitamin D. You know, the stuff that supports your immune system.

When you take otc D, it simply circulates in your blood, and not much is taken up by the individual cells.

Chloroquine, by contrast, has an ionic key on its end, which allows for the vitamin D to enter cells and fight the virus from within each infected cell.

Inadvertently, the cure to many viruses may have just been uncovered.
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you probably need to dose yourself with zinc first, google the relationship between zinc and quinolines
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This is why they are saying it is a compassionate medicine. If it works yay! You’ll have PTSD and Immune issues but you’re alive! If it doesn’t work oh well you’re dead.

Trump has stock in his malaria drug, he wants to be the savior. He has such a complex.
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Or you can do nothing and drown with pneumonia. If I were sick enough I'd take my chances with "quinism"
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Or you can just get better...

 Quoting: Hitokiri


Like MOST (as in almost ALL)
people who get the flu, or coronavirus,
or anything else.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78662126


Shit, when I was a little kid, I got the
MUMPS (hell on Earth), the CHICKENPOX
(itchy scratchy hell on Earth), the
MEASLES (two different varieties), a friend
got POLIO (march of dimes) from which he
recovered,
hell we got staph and strep infections,
almost the whole school was out once
with head lice,
impetigo (whatever the hell that was)
purple medicine if I remember right,
colds, fever, Dr. Miller's GIANT NEEDLE...

I'm over 70 and I managed to live through
it all.

America has turned into the
LAND OF THE PUSSIES.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78662126


Who are you trying to kid? We all know you enjoyed Dr. Miller’s GIANT NEEDLE in your tush.

butt
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Re: Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19
Use of Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine, Mefloquine, Quinine, and Related Quinoline Drugs Risks Sudden and Lasting Neuropsychiatric Effects from Idiosyncratic Neurotoxicity

[link to quinism.org (secure)]
 Quoting: da kat


quinone is in tonic water
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Remember how we used to joke about a zombie apocalypse?
Not so funny anymore.
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zombies No it's still funny!!charlie
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Re: Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19
Use of Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine, Mefloquine, Quinine, and Related Quinoline Drugs Risks Sudden and Lasting Neuropsychiatric Effects from Idiosyncratic Neurotoxicity

[link to quinism.org (secure)]
 Quoting: da kat


Bull shit, it is used by my sister for arthritis, she is in the old person group.
It is known to stop viruses because it an antiviral as Malaria is a virus caused by mosquitoes. Actually it knows over fifty years not twenty-something years and has been tested and passed long time ago. Very few have problems and these problems can be stopped.

Quit putting out shit that can cause problems. The biggest worry people should have is them pushing a vaccine before the tests are done. It has been in development waiting for this very outbreak! No, we are not going to take a deadly vaccine.
 Quoting: hankie


Malaria is caused by Plasmodium parasites not a virus. So I call bullshit on your bullshit.
 Quoting: Otherguy2020



Antiviral

Chloroquine has antiviral effects, which work by increasing endosomal pH resulting in impaired virus/cell fusion that requires a low pH.

Chloroquine also seems to act as a zinc ionophore, thereby allowing extra cellular zinc to enter inside the cell and inhibit viral RNA dependant RNA polymerase.

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The dangers are LONG TERM USE

This drug also used for rheumatoid arthritis for years and years

I have no problem taking it for a week
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This is why they are saying it is a compassionate medicine. If it works yay! You’ll have PTSD and Immune issues but you’re alive! If it doesn’t work oh well you’re dead.

Trump has stock in his malaria drug, he wants to be the savior. He has such a complex.
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You're the one with the complex.
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So if the virus requires low PH wouldn't increasing PH kill the virus?


Antiviral

Chloroquine has antiviral effects,[31] which work by increasing endosomal pH resulting in impaired virus/cell fusion that requires a low pH.[32][33]

Chloroquine also seems to act as a zinc ionophore, thereby allowing extra cellular zinc to enter inside the cell and inhibit viral RNA dependant RNA polymerase.[34][35]

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Adjusting pH in Water Pure or distilled water has a pH level of 7, which means it is neutral. If you want to increase the pH of water, you must add an alkaline substance, such as baking powder, to it. If you want to decrease the pH of water, you add an acidic substance, such as lemon juice, to it.
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How can I raise my pH naturally?
Young recommends simply adding ½ a teaspoon of baking soda to a gallon of purified water and shaking it vigorously to ensure it mixes in completely. Because baking soda is highly alkaline, adding only a small amount to your purified water will result in a gallon of alkaline water.
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One thing you may have in your pantry to raise the pH level of water is baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), which is an alkaline substance with a pH of about 9.
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Chloroquine is a safe and effective drug. It has been used for decades to treat Malaria and other ailments Side effects have been seen in long term usage, some people have been taking it every day for years. The usual dose, I think, is 250mg twice a day for five days. You are very unlikely to see side effects at that dose. If you get Wu-flu, you can ask your doctor for it. Chloroquine is not approved for treating the Chinese Flu, but they can prescribe it "off label". Doctors prescribe "off label drugs every day.

The problem with these old drugs is that they do not make a lot of money for big pharma companies the way new drugs do.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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How can I raise my pH naturally?
Young recommends simply adding ½ a teaspoon of baking soda to a gallon of purified water and shaking it vigorously to ensure it mixes in completely. Because baking soda is highly alkaline, adding only a small amount to your purified water will result in a gallon of alkaline water.
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I use about a teaspoon in a cup of water to take care of my reflux. I know people that use a lot more than that. Baking soda is a lot safer than the drugs available for stomach problems. Drugs to treat reflux either put calcium in your arteries, or leach calcium out of your bones. Either way, the drugs are bad, and not as effective as baking soda.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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A lie.
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Gosh, then.

I guess that makes 3 weeks in ICU with tubes forced down your throat destroying your voice box and other functions, still gasping for air, and probably dying anyway in misery, or surviving for a few more months in misery a better option.

Not to mention the better option of clogging up all healthcare systems such that more deaths occur, even from normally treatable illnesses.
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Re: Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19
Use of Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine, Mefloquine, Quinine, and Related Quinoline Drugs Risks Sudden and Lasting Neuropsychiatric Effects from Idiosyncratic Neurotoxicity

[link to quinism.org (secure)]
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Who funds that org? Big Pharma?
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Read into some of the anti malerials. I have toxic brain injury from mefloquine. It is like having the flu, ptsd and an immune disease all at once. It is like mega hell.

This has been a huge topic on the pages that some of us damaged vets talk on is when is the point you would take chloroquine.

at least chloroquine is 24 times less toxic than mefloquine. but this itself will permanently mess some people up. hydrocloroquine is even less toxic.

22 vets kill themselves a day because of mefloquine; that is how bad the side effects are.

Dr. R Nevin is the man; he has helped many vets get benifits they deserve and trying to prevent more. the new anti malarial is tafaquine. it is supposedly worse than mefloquine.

take quinism and its warnings to heart. i have posted about this before in other threads and my own threads
 Quoting: panther0621


Thank you.
I wonder if quinine in natural form would help against the virus, like tonic water or cranberries...
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Kinin is over 100 gears old
Put in Tonic Soda
Like Gin and Tonic
Perfectly safe
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i think you mean quinine but ya probably a good idea to drink that shit if you get sick

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Read into some of the anti malerials. I have toxic brain injury from mefloquine. It is like having the flu, ptsd and an immune disease all at once. It is like mega hell.

This has been a huge topic on the pages that some of us damaged vets talk on is when is the point you would take chloroquine.

at least chloroquine is 24 times less toxic than mefloquine. but this itself will permanently mess some people up. hydrocloroquine is even less toxic.

22 vets kill themselves a day because of mefloquine; that is how bad the side effects are.

Dr. R Nevin is the man; he has helped many vets get benifits they deserve and trying to prevent more. the new anti malarial is tafaquine. it is supposedly worse than mefloquine.

take quinism and its warnings to heart. i have posted about this before in other threads and my own threads
 Quoting: panther0621


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Use of Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine, Mefloquine, Quinine, and Related Quinoline Drugs Risks Sudden and Lasting Neuropsychiatric Effects from Idiosyncratic Neurotoxicity

[link to quinism.org (secure)]
 Quoting: da kat


I wonder do they take the same medical position against SSRI drugs? I mean since 98 to 99% of all mass shooters in the USA were prescribed SSRI drugs.
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So dont consume your fish tank treatment
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and thats how we turn into the zombies
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It must be the cure.

The bullshitters launched.
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You believe anything that comes out of that shithole, John Hopkins, another globally controlled mouthpiece?

Remember, they are the ones behind the 201 drill and Bill boy Gates.

I treat all of their "experts" very suspiciously.
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It must be the cure.

The bullshitters launched.
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clappa
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So dont consume your fish tank treatment
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Or you can do nothing and drown with pneumonia. If I were sick enough I'd take my chances with "quinism"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77171931


Or you can just get better...

 Quoting: Hitokiri


Like MOST (as in almost ALL)
people who get the flu, or coronavirus,
or anything else.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78662126


Shit, when I was a little kid, I got the
MUMPS (hell on Earth), the CHICKENPOX
(itchy scratchy hell on Earth), the
MEASLES (two different varieties), a friend
got POLIO (march of dimes) from which he
recovered,
hell we got staph and strep infections,
almost the whole school was out once
with head lice,
impetigo (whatever the hell that was)
purple medicine if I remember right,
colds, fever, Dr. Miller's GIANT NEEDLE...

I'm over 70 and I managed to live through
it all.

America has turned into the
LAND OF THE PUSSIES.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78662126


And all that stuff we have some basic immunity to, or vaccines for. This is more like Spanish Flu or Bubonic Plague. Did you live through those? Did you?
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Better off taking natural chloroquine supplements. Like kratom and artemisinin. Important to note that for cancer, artemisinin is 400 to 600mg per day and on for 10 then off for three.

If you overload your system it can cause kidney function issues.

But natural medicine is generally tolerated by the body much more readily than the pharamceutical derivatives.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.





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