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Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19

 
freddy colins

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03/21/2020 12:41 PM
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Re: Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19
so, would you like to live a little bit longer or just die.
you have the choice of not taking it.

you troublemakers are something else.
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03/21/2020 12:47 PM

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I'm for freedom of choice & informed consent, if people want to take these drugs & it's legal they should have that choice.

Since about 80% of people recover in general it's hard to say what works but medical science progresses by trying various remedies.

I've had miraculous results with Oregano oil for tooth abcess, often one capsule ends it & take it with Olive leaf & Elderberry for flu which seems to knock the duration in half.

Thanks to the vets for their service & input & the critics are welcome too, this is an open scientific question and knowledge is priceless.
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03/21/2020 12:55 PM
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Hydrochloroquine is taken by tons of people for lupus and other immune diseases. The common side effects are fatigue and a bit of nausea, which occurs with many drugs.

The old malaria pills did have side effects for many and were taken because malaria can be a death sentence. Hydro was developed as a result of the harsh side effects and is far safer and not nearly as harsh.

I think some people who have dealt with malaria pills and chloroquine have experienced issues and have made this a cause for themselves. I get it. And I appreciatw that OP mentioned that Hydro is far less harsh.

Some people are deliberately saying Hydro is the same thing as Chloroquine, and it is definitely not. It is safe and has limited side effects. It may save lives with this virus, and if anyone sick says no because they think it is Chloroquine and that it will harm them, and they die, then those fear mongering will have that on their heads.

Kudos to op for making the distinction.
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03/21/2020 12:57 PM

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Re: Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19
Article on Chinese experience using the drug: [link to fortune.com (secure)]

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03/21/2020 12:58 PM
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For those looking for a SUPPLEMENT that is a ZINC-Ionophore, Quercetin is readily available online although no IN VITRO study has been conducted on SARS-CoV-2 and I do not receive any monetary compensation nor am I affiliated in any way with this supplement

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Thread: WARNING: Quinine Natural Organic Non-Synthetic Compound Dosage Derivatives Do Not Correlate With Chloroquine
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03/21/2020 01:13 PM
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I find it very disturbing that no one ever told me these are possible side effects. I have suffered from much of this ever since I took the drug for 10 years previously for lupus.

Symptoms of chronic quinoline encephalopathy include tinnitus, dizziness, vertigo, paresthesias, visual disturbances, nightmares, insomnia, anxiety, agoraphobia, paranoia, cognitive dysfunction, depression, personality change, and suicidal thoughts, among others, ”

Check, check, and check!

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03/21/2020 01:17 PM
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I find it very disturbing that no one ever told me these are possible side effects. I have suffered from much of this ever since I took the drug for 10 years previously for lupus.

Symptoms of chronic quinoline encephalopathy include tinnitus, dizziness, vertigo, paresthesias, visual disturbances, nightmares, insomnia, anxiety, agoraphobia, paranoia, cognitive dysfunction, depression, personality change, and suicidal thoughts, among others, ”

Check, check, and check!

Son of a b****
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Every drug comes with an insert that tells the side effects.

No one bothers to read them?
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03/21/2020 01:21 PM
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This is why they are saying it is a compassionate medicine. If it works yay! You’ll have PTSD and Immune issues but you’re alive! If it doesn’t work oh well you’re dead.

Trump has stock in his malaria drug, he wants to be the savior. He has such a complex.
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You commies never miss a shot do you? Your hysterical crying and moaning is so fucking stale, you're like toast that's been sitting on a kitchen counter for the last almost 4 fucking years. SHUT UP
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Big pharma does not want a cheap drug or homeopathic remedy for this outbreak.

They want an expensive drug you have to take for the rest if your life so you can "manage" your sickness. They no longer cure anything, they "manage" them for big profit

Imagine if it was discovered that this could be cured with herbalism

They would never tell you and would probably go on a public campaign to discredit it if it leaked out to the masses
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that’s basically it

take something like head and shoulders dandruff shampoo even

it controls the itching and flaking but you have to keep buying it

if there was something in it to kill the fungus, which is the actual cause of the dandruff, then you would only buy it one time

also razor blades, my dad said when he was young they would stay sharp for six months but they figured out that people don’t buy them as frequently when they make them like that

point is, repeat business is what it’s all about, and having some miracle cure or even a moderately working cure popping up on the internet must have some Big Pharma people more worried than about the virus itself
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

Thoughts create, mind them well.
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03/21/2020 03:14 PM
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Some common sense.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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03/21/2020 04:40 PM

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Re: Quinism Foundation Warns of Dangers from Use of Antimalarial Quinolines Against COVID19
There are dozens of drugs being looked at & at least a half dozen or more already tried, many had promising results in China including their traditional herbal medicines.

There's also peer- reviewed science papers backing Black tea, Reservatrol (in red wine & some herbs), Star Anise (source of Tamiflu medicine) & other herbs

Some herbs help clear mucus & fight pneumonia in any respiratory illness including Cayenne pepper which can help break a sweat in a fever.

I wouldn't ignore tonic water as the more you throw at an illness the faster you beat it.


Add in dry & steam saunas, hot showers & inhalation of Tea Tree & Oregano oils in boiled water.

Some have their favorite herbal immune boosters or use medicinal mushrooms for same, being proactive in these options increases survival odds.
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Reservatrol vs Coronavirus [link to bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com (secure)]
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Zinc vs Coronavirus [link to journals.plos.org (secure)]
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Black tea vs Coronavirus [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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