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Judethz (OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 03/25/2020 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't believe in the Rapture, so I am going to be left behind, even though I believe in Jesus and God. Quoting: Osmium76 Got it. How is this answered? It's not for any of us to say. Those of us who are alive at the time of the Rapture will be taken to meet the Lord in the clouds. Those who are not will alas be left behind, with perhaps a small chance of becoming one of the Tribulation Saints. But remember that you could die suddenly from many different causes before you even get that chance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78631641 United Kingdom 03/25/2020 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't believe in the Rapture, so I am going to be left behind, even though I believe in Jesus and God. Quoting: Osmium76 Got it. How is this answered? :sitquiet: It's not for any of us to say. Those of us who are alive at the time of the Rapture will be taken to meet the Lord in the clouds. Those who are not will alas be left behind, with perhaps a small chance of becoming one of the Tribulation Saints. But remember that you could die suddenly from many different causes before you even get that chance. Thank you for answering. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76145712 Chile 03/25/2020 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the idea of the rapture didn't even exist until the 1830s? The History of the Rapture This doctrine is new; it was never taught or even discussed prior to the 1830’s. It seems to have first come from a “prophetic vision” by Margaret Macdonald, a woman in 1830, who was a part of the cult group the “Irvingites,” while having an emotional experience. Through a “mingled prophecy and vision” (breakdown), and saying “the power of the Holy Spirit,” she came up with this. She was very ill and delusional according to physicians and learned observers at the time. How, how, how did this get to doctrinal status? In spite of her condition, people believed her. Not ministers trained in the Word, not those who were pious Christians, not those with discernment, but those seeking a new fad and emotional experience, just as so many do today. By the way, she was a cultist! Then another cult group in England picked this up by the name of “The Catholic Apostolic Church,” headed by Edward Irving (1792-1834). After that, another cult group called the “Millerites,” predicted the return of Christ on October 22, 1844. It did not happen; that should have been a clue, but this would not die. |
Judethz (OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 03/25/2020 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the idea of the rapture didn't even exist until the 1830s? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76145712 The History of the Rapture This doctrine is new;...……………………………... No the Rapture has always been plainly stated in the bible for all to see. A best I can tell (I don't know everything) it seems that the Lord started to put it into the hearts of various preachers that it was time to "get the word out" some time in the early 1800's. And now here we are about 220 years later, and yes we are in the season. If you persist in fluffing about then you are in great danger of being not right with the Lord before it happens. You have still been blessed with a little time so don't waste it. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be. |
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Judethz (OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 03/25/2020 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is there anything to think about, in the current world climate in society, that can be comparable to the Tribulations or predictions from the Holy Bible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78631641 No, in fact if the Lord does not cut it short (as He has promised to do) then no flesh would be saved. Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Jer 9:22 Speak, Thus saith the LORD, Even the carcases of men shall fall as dung upon the open field, and as the handful after the harvestman, and none shall gather [them]. Last Edited by Judethz on 03/25/2020 08:51 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48642722 United States 03/25/2020 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The timing would be perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658560 Always wondered how they would explain all the missing people. Easy...they died in their homes while in quarantine or lock down. No further explanation needed. Uhh...how would that explain everyone being missing then? If they died in their homes they'd be dead on their floor or beds/couches, etc. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76145712 Chile 03/25/2020 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it doesn't matter who comes to try to help because you humans are so egotistical and brainwashed that if whoever were to come here to Earth and teach you what to do and how to save yourself or the planet, nearly no one would listen. Not much has changed in the past 2000 years honestly. |
Chez User ID: 77923143 United States 03/26/2020 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every 30 years or so this has been bleated. It is simply masked escapism from reality that everyone falls back on when their idealism is not met. Quoting: GodLaughs 77108661 In actuality, It is rather amuzing that you think you know what hard times are. The very fact you have electricity proves you do not know what hard times are. In the 10 days of darkness to come perhaps you will reflect on the fact the Western Nations have spent thousands of years perpetuating the very things in which you bleat about, all with your tax dollars of course. No stop being such a pansy snowflake, and tuffin up butter cup. Oh, and no one is coming to save anyone, that should be self evident by now, and no matter how much one believes; be like eve, all the lies that keep the Rulers in power, it will not change the complacents fate. trib isn't for the believers but lets see how long you survive the trib tough man |
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Judethz (OP) User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 03/26/2020 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arent there descriptions in the Holy Bible of Tribulations such as " global disease " or " greed and selfishness " that correspond with what is happening right now?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58281306 If you would like a quick introduction to this subject then please check out this Chick illustrated tract. WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)] Last Edited by Judethz on 03/26/2020 11:54 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689725 United States 03/26/2020 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the idea of the rapture didn't even exist until the 1830s? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76145712 The History of the Rapture This doctrine is new; it was never taught or even discussed prior to the 1830’s. It seems to have first come from a “prophetic vision” by Margaret Macdonald, a woman in 1830, who was a part of the cult group the “Irvingites,” while having an emotional experience. Through a “mingled prophecy and vision” (breakdown), and saying “the power of the Holy Spirit,” she came up with this. She was very ill and delusional according to physicians and learned observers at the time. How, how, how did this get to doctrinal status? In spite of her condition, people believed her. Not ministers trained in the Word, not those who were pious Christians, not those with discernment, but those seeking a new fad and emotional experience, just as so many do today. By the way, she was a cultist! Then another cult group in England picked this up by the name of “The Catholic Apostolic Church,” headed by Edward Irving (1792-1834). After that, another cult group called the “Millerites,” predicted the return of Christ on October 22, 1844. It did not happen; that should have been a clue, but this would not die. :clappa; Ask any Orthodox Christian priest about the rapture. I don't think you will find anyone from the longest Christian linage that has a definitive yes to rapture theory doctrine, rapture is not taught. |
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MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 73210097 Brazil 03/26/2020 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The timing would be perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78658560 Always wondered how they would explain all the missing people. Easy...they died in their homes while in quarantine or lock down. No further explanation needed. I awoke last night at 2:00am with that realization. Right! Makes total sense! There will be no bodies, no proof, all gone! Look at yourselves! Believing in magic to deny reality! You people need a straitjacket! MaybeTrollingUAgain |
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MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 73210097 Brazil 03/26/2020 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask any Orthodox Christian priest about the rapture. I don't think you will find anyone from the longest Christian linage that has a definitive yes to rapture theory doctrine, rapture is not taught. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689725 All these lying churches will have a lot to answer for one day. Of course! They are wrong because you are right. The mind boggling part is they say exactly the same. In fact, all do! Isn't that strange? MaybeTrollingUAgain |