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How to prevent ARDS and drain your lungs at home

 
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How to prevent ARDS and drain your lungs at home
Scenario - it is four weeks into the future. Hospitals are full of severe case ARDS Chinese Virus patients. You, being prepared had food for several weeks but unfortunately your neighbor didn’t and when they came up to ask for sugar contaminated your doorhandle or something. You aren’t sure. All you know is you are presenting now well documented Symptoms and are progressing to the pneumonia stage. Past this is ARDS. Reluctantly you find yourself at the hospital but are turned away.

What can you do?

When a sailor drowned, for hundreds of years they used a method of rolling them face down over a barrel to expel the water. A more modern method is something called “Postural drainage.”

You can do this on yourself, others, babies, adults and the like. It can be done for 20 to 40 mins a day to help expel fluid and detritus from the lungs. It can be done early phase to help prevent it from progressing further by reducing inflammation.

Print this out and maybe save a life.

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Didn’t sign into my account because I am lazy but my main posting acct is the same as my “anonymous” handle.
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Cool.
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Adding to person pins just in case. Thanks, OP.
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When a sailor drowned, for hundreds of years they used a method of rolling them face down
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Some Italian doctors are actually putting their patients lying prone to promote oxygenation in extreme cases.
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Awesome.

Thanks, OP!
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I posted this 4 days ago:

Give the patient Acetylcysteine/ Fluimicil orally and the next day also via an ultrasonic vaporizer.
Now put that patient on a inversion table, usually used by patients with lower backpain.
One thing is different this time. This time the patient is with his belly on the table, instead of with his back.
The footrests of the table have to be changed to make this possible( the feet pointing in the other direction).
Now make a hole in the carrier of the table so a large part of the face can go through.

Now give the patient a mild sedative and half an hour later put him on the inversion table, his head in front of the made hole.
Now the assistant changes the position of the table in small steps in order to prevent the patient panicking.

For the last part you need a sine wave generator that can generate from 20 Hz to 220 Hz.
You also need an amplifier that has an output up to 20, maybe 50 Watt.
The speaker can best be a Bass kicker or something like that. That is a speaker that has a little weight that moves instead of a cone. They are used by people that play games to get the sound felt by vibrating the chair our couch.
Last but not least a coupler is needed to couple the signal the back of the ribcage of the patient.
That could be an implant breast or any gel filled small balloon or such. The final coupling is done by the ample use of a slippery gel, like the one used in ultrasonic diagnosis.

Now the assistant puts the balloon and bass shaker against the ribcage. Start with 20 or 30 Hz, depending on how low that bass kicker can have. Slowly raise the volume till the patient complains and then go back a few notches. Now raise the frequency very slowly in 15 minutes till it is 220 Hz.
Do the same on the other side of the ribcage.

Mucus is thixotropic, that means it gets thinner under vibrations.Just like ketchup, that is why shaking the bottle makes it thinner.

This process makes it possible to remove the thick mucus out of the defunct lungs.

In a clinical setting it would be best to use an endoscope in the lungs to monitor the process and as a suction line.
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Great info, OP! Thank you. 5*
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Thanks. Great to have on hand.
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Thanks. Great to have on hand.
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I've said this before, my sons and I got sick.

We had this virus I think, it came with a lot of

'congestion' in our lungs.

The one son indicated he was having trouble sleeping

because of the wheeze and congestion and he said--

I had to sleep on my side or on my stomach.

I did that too.

This may help many that could contract this so I shared it.

Thanks OP for posting. Great post!!!!!
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Re: How to prevent ARDS and drain your lungs at home
I posted this 4 days ago:

Give the patient Acetylcysteine/ Fluimicil orally and the next day also via an ultrasonic vaporizer.
Now put that patient on a inversion table, usually used by patients with lower backpain.
One thing is different this time. This time the patient is with his belly on the table, instead of with his back.
The footrests of the table have to be changed to make this possible( the feet pointing in the other direction).
Now make a hole in the carrier of the table so a large part of the face can go through.

Now give the patient a mild sedative and half an hour later put him on the inversion table, his head in front of the made hole.
Now the assistant changes the position of the table in small steps in order to prevent the patient panicking.

For the last part you need a sine wave generator that can generate from 20 Hz to 220 Hz.
You also need an amplifier that has an output up to 20, maybe 50 Watt.
The speaker can best be a Bass kicker or something like that. That is a speaker that has a little weight that moves instead of a cone. They are used by people that play games to get the sound felt by vibrating the chair our couch.
Last but not least a coupler is needed to couple the signal the back of the ribcage of the patient.
That could be an implant breast or any gel filled small balloon or such. The final coupling is done by the ample use of a slippery gel, like the one used in ultrasonic diagnosis.

Now the assistant puts the balloon and bass shaker against the ribcage. Start with 20 or 30 Hz, depending on how low that bass kicker can have. Slowly raise the volume till the patient complains and then go back a few notches. Now raise the frequency very slowly in 15 minutes till it is 220 Hz.
Do the same on the other side of the ribcage.

Mucus is thixotropic, that means it gets thinner under vibrations.Just like ketchup, that is why shaking the bottle makes it thinner.

This process makes it possible to remove the thick mucus out of the defunct lungs.

In a clinical setting it would be best to use an endoscope in the lungs to monitor the process and as a suction line.
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Sounds like a good treatment option, but the majority of people will not have access to those meds, an inversion table, or possibly even someone to help them on & off the thing if they could find one.

I got a few plastic 55 gallon drums in the back yard for holding rain water, I guess I could drape myself over one of those like the sailors of old did and hope that's sufficient.
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Thanks OP!
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Gravity will remove more in an upside-down position..
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i had a friend with CF years ago who relied on this
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There are like 100 links on that page. OP can you post the link to the page with the actual practice you are sharing?
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Thank you. hf
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I've said this before, my sons and I got sick.

We had this virus I think, it came with a lot of

'congestion' in our lungs.

The one son indicated he was having trouble sleeping

because of the wheeze and congestion and he said--

I had to sleep on my side or on my stomach.

I did that too.

This may help many that could contract this so I shared it.

Thanks OP for posting. Great post!!!!!
 Quoting: 1guynAz


Chest congestion relieved and drains with sleeping in the stomach

ALSO NOTE

Put “bed risers” under corners so your HEAD is down and feet are elevated to help drain the lungs

Do percussive massage on the back for the lungs to help patient cough out the crap
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OH god they did that to me as a kid back in the 80s when I had pneumonia. I fucking hated it. They would come in about every hour to do that. Of course I about died so it did work.
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Scenario - it is four weeks into the future. Hospitals are full of severe case ARDS Chinese Virus patients. You, being prepared had food for several weeks but unfortunately your neighbor didn’t and when they came up to ask for sugar contaminated your doorhandle or something. You aren’t sure. All you know is you are presenting now well documented Symptoms and are progressing to the pneumonia stage. Past this is ARDS. Reluctantly you find yourself at the hospital but are turned away.

What can you do?

When a sailor drowned, for hundreds of years they used a method of rolling them face down over a barrel to expel the water. A more modern method is something called “Postural drainage.”

You can do this on yourself, others, babies, adults and the like. It can be done for 20 to 40 mins a day to help expel fluid and detritus from the lungs. It can be done early phase to help prevent it from progressing further by reducing inflammation.

Print this out and maybe save a life.

[link to www.cff.org (secure)]
 Quoting: HolyBeast 78344608

reducing inflammation.

The go to drug for this uses Ibuprofen....If this is given..the virus will be fatal.
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Great use of an inversion table like Teeter.
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THANKS OP!
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If you get ARDS and aren't in the hospital (typically ICU) getting oxygen, you're going to die. You have about a 40% of dying even in an ICU with ventilator support.

The fluid is in the interstitial spaces not the airways as in a drowning. Airways can remain wide open but no gas exchange takes place.
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Very interesting. Thank you.
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I love how they are all smiling in the animations
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Scenario - it is four weeks into the future. Hospitals are full of severe case ARDS Chinese Virus patients. You, being prepared had food for several weeks but unfortunately your neighbor didn’t and when they came up to ask for sugar contaminated your doorhandle or something. You aren’t sure. All you know is you are presenting now well documented Symptoms and are progressing to the pneumonia stage. Past this is ARDS. Reluctantly you find yourself at the hospital but are turned away.

What can you do?

When a sailor drowned, for hundreds of years they used a method of rolling them face down over a barrel to expel the water. A more modern method is something called “Postural drainage.”

You can do this on yourself, others, babies, adults and the like. It can be done for 20 to 40 mins a day to help expel fluid and detritus from the lungs. It can be done early phase to help prevent it from progressing further by reducing inflammation.

Print this out and maybe save a life.

[link to www.cff.org (secure)]
 Quoting: HolyBeast 78344608

I have done this with every bronchial and lung Pneumonia I have ever had. and its dumb few know about it.. because it makes logical sense.
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When a sailor drowned, for hundreds of years they used a method of rolling them face down
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Some Italian doctors are actually putting their patients lying prone to promote oxygenation in extreme cases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78656409


You can acheive the same effect in a hammock lying face down with your arms and head down, like a sleepy superman.
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The correct terminology is Tragic Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome...or

TARDS
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great thread and the illustrations are pretty funny. supposed to be saving a life but by the expressions on the faces it looks more like foreplay.
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