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Breaking!! Italy is requesting US military support for coronavirus battle

 
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Wow this is very drastic. Italy is really devastated and overwhelmed.
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Yup. It's out of control
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Will China be donating all their mobile crematoriums to Italy, Iran, Germany, UK?

Or will they just send them to AU and NZ?
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nz dont need them ..
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I think you make sure AMERICANS have enough ventillators first..then by all means if you have extra..help
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2016/17 68,000 died from regular flu. Italy has one of the highest mortality rates from the flu.

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They really don’t like Italy. They consider Italy as a crap hole. With what’s going on now, each for his own.
 Quoting: The Blessed


Um, so that study period was 4 years , not a couple of months.

“The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy......We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17”

They’ve had rough years, esp 2016-2017, but not 68,000 in 3 months.
Me thinks you accidentally greatly exaggerated the last flu season in Italy. They definitely do have higher rates of flu death though.

I’m just a stickler for facts. I appreciate the article you linked- it was very interesting and good for thought for sure
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Me thinks you are trying to make "winter season" to mean a FULL year. Sorry - not true. Winter season is 5-6 months divide 6 into 68,000 to get a per month death rate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76762208


Learn to read...


From the article:

More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period.

The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy.
 Quoting: Zer0pi3.14


2016/17 68,000 died from regular flu. Italy has one of the highest mortality rates from the flu.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76762208


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They really don’t like Italy. They consider Italy as a crap hole. With what’s going on now, each for his own.
 Quoting: The Blessed


Um, so that study period was 4 years , not a couple of months.

“The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy......We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17”

They’ve had rough years, esp 2016-2017, but not 68,000 in 3 months.
Me thinks you accidentally greatly exaggerated the last flu season in Italy. They definitely do have higher rates of flu death though.

I’m just a stickler for facts. I appreciate the article you linked- it was very interesting and good for thought for sure
 Quoting: aquamosaic


Me thinks you are trying to make "winter season" to mean a FULL year. Sorry - not true. Winter season is 5-6 months divide 6 into 68,000 to get a per month death rate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76762208


Learn to read...


From the article:

More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period.

The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy.
 Quoting: Zer0pi3.14


From the article "Introduction
Seasonal influenza epidemics make a substantial contribution to the worldwide annual mortality rate, in particular among elderly individuals aged 65 years and over. Influenza associated deaths are highly variable by country and season...."

A "season" is not 12 months.
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It seems its Euro-friends never offer any help at all not even Germany !!
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Germany is almost in the same boat as Italy. They're going to have to take care of their own.
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Fuck Merkel, if that twat asked for help I'd laugh in her face. She deserves exactly what she gets. Sorry for the German people, but is what it is, every dog has his day.
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Going by this article that someone posted above but failed to read properly, Italy on average has appx 17,000 flu deaths a season. If we go by winter months, we'll say 4 just to be fair (usually more like 5) That'd be a little over 4,000 deaths a month.. and these are during some BAD flu seasons.. using these numbers.. The Coronavirus just this past week has outdone some of the worst flu MONTHS Italy has seen in the recent years.. Their death rate in 2 days is worse than an entire week of deaths in a bad flu season..

Article with data:

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Soooooo....
CHINA IS LYING??
Oh and what good is quarantining doing for them?
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Well the US military is going to have their hands full in the up coming weeks.
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pretty sure the sixth fleet is in Naples
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Thesse guys are in Vicenza

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Um, so that study period was 4 years , not a couple of months.

“The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy......We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17”

They’ve had rough years, esp 2016-2017, but not 68,000 in 3 months.
Me thinks you accidentally greatly exaggerated the last flu season in Italy. They definitely do have higher rates of flu death though.

I’m just a stickler for facts. I appreciate the article you linked- it was very interesting and good for thought for sure
 Quoting: aquamosaic


Me thinks you are trying to make "winter season" to mean a FULL year. Sorry - not true. Winter season is 5-6 months divide 6 into 68,000 to get a per month death rate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76762208


Learn to read...


From the article:

More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period.

The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy.
 Quoting: Zer0pi3.14


...


...


Um, so that study period was 4 years , not a couple of months.

“The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy......We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17”

They’ve had rough years, esp 2016-2017, but not 68,000 in 3 months.
Me thinks you accidentally greatly exaggerated the last flu season in Italy. They definitely do have higher rates of flu death though.

I’m just a stickler for facts. I appreciate the article you linked- it was very interesting and good for thought for sure
 Quoting: aquamosaic


Me thinks you are trying to make "winter season" to mean a FULL year. Sorry - not true. Winter season is 5-6 months divide 6 into 68,000 to get a per month death rate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76762208


Learn to read...


From the article:

More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period.

The objective of our study was to estimate the influenza-attributable contribution to excess mortality during the influenza seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17 in Italy.
 Quoting: Zer0pi3.14


From the article "Introduction
Seasonal influenza epidemics make a substantial contribution to the worldwide annual mortality rate, in particular among elderly individuals aged 65 years and over. Influenza associated deaths are highly variable by country and season...."

A "season" is not 12 months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76762208


READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE!!

We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17

That means in 2013/14 there were 7,027 deaths.. in 2014/15 there were 20,259 deaths, in 2015/16 there were 15,801 deaths, in 2016/17 there were 24,921 deaths..

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Reading comprehension... you don't have it..
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Soooooo....
CHINA IS LYING??
Oh and what good is quarantining doing for them?
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Could have been way worse
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It seems its Euro-friends never offer any help at all not even Germany !!
 Quoting: TIO JUAN


Yep - pretty much abandoned by their EU 'family' members .... hypocrits and after all of that post Brexit 'EU unity' bollox they were spouting at the end of January!
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It seems its Euro-friends never offer any help at all not even Germany !!
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Only help that's coming in so far is from China or Russia. American army flew test kits OUT of the country last week and fly them to Memphis. America first!
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An attempt to take troops away from the mission they are currently on?
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Wow this is very drastic. Italy is really devastated and overwhelmed.
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Yup. It's out of control
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Not true. Italy has ome of the highest death rates from influenza. 60,000 in one seasonal study. (2017) Covid needs to kill 55,000 more people in a few months just to match the regular flu.
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It seems its Euro-friends never offer any help at all not even Germany !!
 Quoting: TIO JUAN


Yep - pretty much abandoned by their EU 'family' members .... hypocrits and after all of that post Brexit 'EU unity' bollox they were spouting at the end of January!
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What abandoned?! There isn't one EU country that has any material and equipment to spare, they are all running short on everything that is required, even hospital staff don't have enough very basic stuff like gloves, masks or eye covers.
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Will China be donating all their mobile crematoriums to Italy, Iran, Germany, UK?

Or will they just send them to AU and NZ?
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I think you guys will need the before us.
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Going by this article that someone posted above but failed to read properly, Italy on average has appx 17,000 flu deaths a season. If we go by winter months, we'll say 4 just to be fair (usually more like 5) That'd be a little over 4,000 deaths a month.. and these are during some BAD flu seasons.. using these numbers.. The Coronavirus just this past week has outdone some of the worst flu MONTHS Italy has seen in the recent years.. Their death rate in 2 days is worse than an entire week of deaths in a bad flu season..

Article with data:

[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Zer0pi3.14


Going by this article that someone posted above but failed to read properly, Italy on average has appx 17,000 flu deaths a season. If we go by winter months, we'll say 4 just to be fair (usually more like 5) That'd be a little over 4,000 deaths a month.. and these are during some BAD flu seasons.. using these numbers.. The Coronavirus just this past week has outdone some of the worst flu MONTHS Italy has seen in the recent years.. Their death rate in 2 days is worse than an entire week of deaths in a bad flu season..

Article with data:

[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Zer0pi3.14




"More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period."
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Wow this is very drastic. Italy is really devastated and overwhelmed.
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And they still don't want the UN! Hello?
epiclol Nobody wants those orc and goblin bastages and they must be destroyed.

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Why didn't Italy ask for this 2 weeks ago? Someone didn't have their thinking cap on!
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2016/17 68,000 died from regular flu. Italy has one of the highest mortality rates from the flu.

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This virus is putting virtually EVERYONE in the hospital!! How do you death numbers fools not get that?
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what needs to be made is a viral killing aerosol that can be added to oxygen.
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colloidal silver
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High dose IV vitamin c

If that doesn't stabilise quick enough

Try hydroxychloriquine

95 pct of icu cases would be gone

They could then handle remaining 5%
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It seems its Euro-friends never offer any help at all not even Germany !!
 Quoting: TIO JUAN


Only help that's coming in so far is from China or Russia. American army flew test kits OUT of the country last week and fly them to Memphis. America first!
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An attempt to take troops away from the mission they are currently on?
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China is managing situation just find. There's no need for american help. China is showing who is the new manager on the block, no worries ;)
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*fine
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2016/17 68,000 died from regular flu. Italy has one of the highest mortality rates from the flu.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76762208


That big flu number, as impressive as it seems, calculates to 186 people a day.

How many died today in Italy of Covid?

you are a CCP government shill
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I think you make sure AMERICANS have enough ventillators first..then by all means if you have extra..help
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I don't know what's the big deal, its not high tech. We started to produce them ourselves in just a week. Yesterday they started to put them off the production line and ready to use.
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parachute supplies into Italy. Why the hell not? I think Israel just gave us 10 million doses of the medicine to fight it off -- give them a million for crap sakes. By the time we catch up to them, the million will already be replaced.
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Italy,

I wish you the best, but you have not been friendly towards the US the past decade.

Don't be friends with China going forward. You are on your own.

Sincerely,

USA
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Did you people even read the article, they asked for material things not soldiers...geezzz
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This place most likely has the lowest combined IQ of any other existing Internet forum.
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Did you people even read the article, they asked for material things not soldiers...geezzz
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The soldiers come with the supplies, and the soldiers don't leave afterwards, ever.





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