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Trump uses Pandemic as excuse to sign 5G INTO LAW! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462  United States03/26/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
**Watcher** (OP) User ID: 77687725 United States03/26/2020 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: **Watcher** Then PLEASE...tell us how safe this is and the proof from tests that back up your assertions. Others have been able to show how 5G is harmful to humans but I have YET to see evidence from others of it's safety! We'll wait. Against my better judgement, I just watched that boobtube video and it is completely and utterly useless just as I thought.  And STILL you have NOTHING to counter what they say. Very telling. Let me guess when you use your microwave (assuming you did not throw it away ) you run into the other room or when a cfl that was popular 10 years ago broke, you'd call the hazmat team in and run out of the room. So you are resorting to insults now rather than providing any real tangible info about how 5G is NOT dangerous to humans. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about or you would have done more than insult by now. Hope you don't find out too late how painful the fall is from pride. "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9 "It will be good for those servants whose master finds them WATCHING when he comes..."Luke 12:37 <"}}}>< (me) ><{{{"> <"}}}>< |
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| **Watcher** (OP) User ID: 77687725 United States03/26/2020 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay I'm done here but people please, look into this and not by watching fear mongering boobtube videos. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76093462 You'll find out that the power levels are SIGNIFICANTLY lower than the previous generations. Thanks for that "proof". See ya! "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9 "It will be good for those servants whose master finds them WATCHING when he comes..."Luke 12:37 <"}}}>< (me) ><{{{"> <"}}}>< |
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| Cebeij User ID: 77609613 United States03/26/2020 02:51 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73086834 Ummm, idiot, the FCC ALREADY approved 5g and is railing for it heavily. NO TESTS, at least not ones we'll see the results to Exactly my point. Thank you for acknowledging it! The topic is the thread title. There was no "5G is signed into law" bill. There was a "5G security analysis bill" that was signed into law. As you've stated, Trump didn't sign 5G into law. 5G was already approved by the FCC. Trump signed a bill that asked for a security analysis of the 5G that was already in use.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462 United States03/26/2020 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76093462 Against my better judgement, I just watched that boobtube video and it is completely and utterly useless just as I thought. And STILL you have NOTHING to counter what they say. Very telling. Let me guess when you use your microwave (assuming you did not throw it away ) you run into the other room or when a cfl that was popular 10 years ago broke, you'd call the hazmat team in and run out of the room.So you are resorting to insults now rather than providing any real tangible info about how 5G is NOT dangerous to humans. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about or you would have done more than insult by now. Hope you don't find out too late how painful the fall is from pride. I told you what to do to alleviate your baseless fear of the tech but you won't do it so enjoy your fear. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77621441  Canada03/26/2020 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77263268  Estonia03/26/2020 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me guess when you use your microwave (assuming you did not throw it away ) you run into the other room or when a cfl that was popular 10 years ago broke, you'd call the hazmat team in and run out of the room.So you are resorting to insults now rather than providing any real tangible info about how 5G is NOT dangerous to humans. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about or you would have done more than insult by now. Hope you don't find out too late how painful the fall is from pride. I told you what to do to alleviate your baseless fear of the tech but you won't do it so enjoy your fear. you remind me of idiots that thought ascii video and adobe obfuscation would keep them anonymous |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76983809 United States03/26/2020 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CO-V-Fe-Fe... Look it up. Cobalt, Vanadium, Iron alloy that neutralizes the harmful effects on humans by 5G. Here's a link with insight into why President Trump allowed this to go forward. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77434561 [link to threadreaderapp.com (secure)]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462 United States03/26/2020 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76093462 Let me guess when you use your microwave (assuming you did not throw it away ) you run into the other room or when a cfl that was popular 10 years ago broke, you'd call the hazmat team in and run out of the room.So you are resorting to insults now rather than providing any real tangible info about how 5G is NOT dangerous to humans. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about or you would have done more than insult by now. Hope you don't find out too late how painful the fall is from pride. I told you what to do to alleviate your baseless fear of the tech but you won't do it so enjoy your fear. you remind me of idiots that thought ascii video and adobe obfuscation would keep them anonymous I'm talking about the power levels you blithering idiot not the security. Sheesh you people are stupid. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78295315 United States03/26/2020 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | President Donald Trump signed the Secure 5G and Beyond Act of 2020 Monday (March 23). Quoting: **Watcher** “The bills signed into law today by the President are critical to ensuring that all Americans can access broadband and that our networks are secure and trusted," said a bipartisan quartet of committee leaders. "The need for connectivity is even more critical now that millions of Americans are teleworking and learning from home in response to the coronavirus pandemic." Riiiight....  [link to www.multichannel.com (secure)] Its time to orgone proof the whole house, office and cars now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77267803 United States03/26/2020 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States03/26/2020 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People: Stop and think for a minute Quoting: Callin Just take a breath, relax, and think (no emotions) Fact 1: 5G has been operational in the United States for > 4 months (more than 7 months in some early pilot areas) Fact 2: Congress/Senate/President don't need to pass legislation for new technology. The FCC (in this case) is the government agency that regulates whether a new wireless technology is allowed to operate. Fact 3: The legislation that was passed on March 23, 2020 has to do with securing the already existing 5G networks. Securing basically means (in this case) not allowing foreign government owned companies (i.e. Huawei) to provide the equipment that will transport civilian AND government traffic. Please take a moment and actually read the bill. It's pretty short (5 pages), so it shouldn't take more than 5-10 minutes to read. Here's the home page for the bill: [link to www.govtrack.us (secure)] Here's the actual bill wording: [link to www.govtrack.us (secure)] I understand the concerns around 5G, and I share some of those concerns. But blatantly misrepresenting what was signed into law 3 days ago is not the way to convince people of the concerns. The taxpayers want to skip 5G. They don't want to pay for it, and they don't want to use it. "Faster speeds" are not necessary and internet companies won't even be able to take advantage of these particular networks (neither in routing nor in development of bandwidth-intensive features) because they want to be accessible in the third world, where most people are on 2G. What does "secure" mean anyway? Secure how? Better tracking of users is not security, it is insecurity and an attempt to curb speech and political activity. Good points and good questions (on what does "secure' mean). If you don't want to use it, let your carrier know. If you have concerns over 5G (like I do) then let the FCC know. Whether a new wireless technology is allowed to operate is up to the FCC. It has nothing to do with Congress/Senate/Executive. This bill (now law) isn't "allowing 5G" to operate. It's been in operation for many many months now. This bill (now law) is requesting a security analysis on the 5G system that's in place and currently expanding. What that "security analysis" will look for is anyone's guess. Be safe! It's a free country. The companies can set up 5G, but they shouldn't use taxpayer funds for it. It is, literally, an unnecessary "upgrade". If they want to roll it out, fine. Let the customer decide what its value is. I'm ready to go back to landlines and dump my "smart" phone which is nothing but a tracking device built for malicious purposes. The main reason carriers are applying to government for aid in rolling out 5G is because they expect to make no profit from it otherwise. Nobody wants or needs those speeds, The modems use a lot of electricity. If your carrier sends you one, make sure they pay for the increase to your electricity bill. "Nobody wants or needs those speeds" Yeah: UH: Technology has not stopped improving in March of 2020: the "low latency"aspect swill enable the development of (remote)(tele-) surgery and self driving vehicles. I've already had a davinci robotic surgery witH the actual surgeon sitting across the operatingroom.with his head,hands and feet in the controller.: it was fantastic. I recovered much more quickly with little pain. Went home on the second day. A surgeon could operate ona patient from any where in the world with a"low latency" connection. And because its all done with computer controlled electronic drives. The manipulator Gain is adjustable That means a surgeon can move his fingers one-quarter inch and the controller moves the tool a few thousands of an inch. Like a cnc machine. I've worked around electronics and RF all my life: I trained on the original; 8085 microprocessor of the 70s Repaired and calibrated RF test equipment(frequency generators, oscilloscopes and spectrum analyzers) until I left industry as an electro-mechanical( controls) technician in the mid 2000s .This anti 5g woo is Plain old fear mongering. YES: THERE WILL BE MORE TRANSMITTERS INSTALLED PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SHORTER RANGE(AT THOSE FREQUENCIES) AND WILL TRANSMIT WITH LESS POWER THAN 4G CELL TOWERS!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77263268 Estonia03/26/2020 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: **Watcher** So you are resorting to insults now rather than providing any real tangible info about how 5G is NOT dangerous to humans. It is obvious you don't know what you are talking about or you would have done more than insult by now. Hope you don't find out too late how painful the fall is from pride. I told you what to do to alleviate your baseless fear of the tech but you won't do it so enjoy your fear. you remind me of idiots that thought ascii video and adobe obfuscation would keep them anonymous I'm talking about the power levels you blithering idiot not the security. Sheesh you people are stupid. thats because its the only argument you can win 5g = zero privacy 5g = real time surveillance on the cheap 5g = hyper focused adverts on different tvs even if on same channel 5g = no escape from telemarketers 5g = no escape from state enforcers 5g = zero safety or security in your own homes |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77621441 Canada03/26/2020 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77524817 United States03/26/2020 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CO-V-Fe-Fe... Look it up. Cobalt, Vanadium, Iron alloy that neutralizes the harmful effects on humans by 5G. Here's a link with insight into why President Trump allowed this to go forward. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77434561 [link to threadreaderapp.com (secure)] Wow, thanks for that. Great info! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462 United States03/26/2020 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78617574 The taxpayers want to skip 5G. They don't want to pay for it, and they don't want to use it. "Faster speeds" are not necessary and internet companies won't even be able to take advantage of these particular networks (neither in routing nor in development of bandwidth-intensive features) because they want to be accessible in the third world, where most people are on 2G. What does "secure" mean anyway? Secure how? Better tracking of users is not security, it is insecurity and an attempt to curb speech and political activity. Good points and good questions (on what does "secure' mean). If you don't want to use it, let your carrier know. If you have concerns over 5G (like I do) then let the FCC know. Whether a new wireless technology is allowed to operate is up to the FCC. It has nothing to do with Congress/Senate/Executive. This bill (now law) isn't "allowing 5G" to operate. It's been in operation for many many months now. This bill (now law) is requesting a security analysis on the 5G system that's in place and currently expanding. What that "security analysis" will look for is anyone's guess. Be safe! It's a free country. The companies can set up 5G, but they shouldn't use taxpayer funds for it. It is, literally, an unnecessary "upgrade". If they want to roll it out, fine. Let the customer decide what its value is. I'm ready to go back to landlines and dump my "smart" phone which is nothing but a tracking device built for malicious purposes. The main reason carriers are applying to government for aid in rolling out 5G is because they expect to make no profit from it otherwise. Nobody wants or needs those speeds, The modems use a lot of electricity. If your carrier sends you one, make sure they pay for the increase to your electricity bill. "Nobody wants or needs those speeds" Yeah: UH: Technology has not stopped improving in March of 2020: the "low latency"aspect swill enable the development of (remote)(tele-) surgery and self driving vehicles. I've already had a davinci robotic surgery witH the actual surgeon sitting across the operatingroom.with his head,hands and feet in the controller.: it was fantastic. I recovered much more quickly with little pain. Went home on the second day. A surgeon could operate ona patient from any where in the world with a"low latency" connection. And because its all done with computer controlled electronic drives. The manipulator Gain is adjustable That means a surgeon can move his fingers one-quarter inch and the controller moves the tool a few thousands of an inch. Like a cnc machine. I've worked around electronics and RF all my life: I trained on the original; 8085 microprocessor of the 70s Repaired and calibrated RF test equipment(frequency generators, oscilloscopes and spectrum analyzers) until I left industry as an electro-mechanical( controls) technician in the mid 2000s .This anti 5g woo is Plain old fear mongering. YES: THERE WILL BE MORE TRANSMITTERS INSTALLED PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SHORTER RANGE(AT THOSE FREQUENCIES) AND WILL TRANSMIT WITH LESS POWER THAN 4G CELL TOWERS! FINALLY, someone who understands. Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78617574 United States03/26/2020 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77263268 Estonia03/26/2020 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Callin Good points and good questions (on what does "secure' mean). If you don't want to use it, let your carrier know. If you have concerns over 5G (like I do) then let the FCC know. Whether a new wireless technology is allowed to operate is up to the FCC. It has nothing to do with Congress/Senate/Executive. This bill (now law) isn't "allowing 5G" to operate. It's been in operation for many many months now. This bill (now law) is requesting a security analysis on the 5G system that's in place and currently expanding. What that "security analysis" will look for is anyone's guess. Be safe! It's a free country. The companies can set up 5G, but they shouldn't use taxpayer funds for it. It is, literally, an unnecessary "upgrade". If they want to roll it out, fine. Let the customer decide what its value is. I'm ready to go back to landlines and dump my "smart" phone which is nothing but a tracking device built for malicious purposes. The main reason carriers are applying to government for aid in rolling out 5G is because they expect to make no profit from it otherwise. Nobody wants or needs those speeds, The modems use a lot of electricity. If your carrier sends you one, make sure they pay for the increase to your electricity bill. "Nobody wants or needs those speeds" Yeah: UH: Technology has not stopped improving in March of 2020: the "low latency"aspect swill enable the development of (remote)(tele-) surgery and self driving vehicles. I've already had a davinci robotic surgery witH the actual surgeon sitting across the operatingroom.with his head,hands and feet in the controller.: it was fantastic. I recovered much more quickly with little pain. Went home on the second day. A surgeon could operate ona patient from any where in the world with a"low latency" connection. And because its all done with computer controlled electronic drives. The manipulator Gain is adjustable That means a surgeon can move his fingers one-quarter inch and the controller moves the tool a few thousands of an inch. Like a cnc machine. I've worked around electronics and RF all my life: I trained on the original; 8085 microprocessor of the 70s Repaired and calibrated RF test equipment(frequency generators, oscilloscopes and spectrum analyzers) until I left industry as an electro-mechanical( controls) technician in the mid 2000s .This anti 5g woo is Plain old fear mongering. YES: THERE WILL BE MORE TRANSMITTERS INSTALLED PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SHORTER RANGE(AT THOSE FREQUENCIES) AND WILL TRANSMIT WITH LESS POWER THAN 4G CELL TOWERS! FINALLY, someone who understands. Thank you. it will be swell when thieves get the first risc router injectors and can see if a home is occupied |
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| Cebeij User ID: 77609613 United States03/26/2020 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462 United States03/26/2020 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of wicked fools in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803 No matter what they try or how they say it, many of us are unmoved and impenetrable. Unprovoked. The best part is, it falls on deaf ears and they are already defeated! Ignorance of a technology you don't understand does not make you holy and likewise, understanding of said technology does not make people like me wicked. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462 United States03/26/2020 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of wicked fools in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77267803 No matter what they try or how they say it, many of us are unmoved and impenetrable. Unprovoked. The best part is, it falls on deaf ears and they are already defeated! Ignorance of a technology you don't understand does not make you holy and likewise, understanding of said technology does not make people like me wicked. evasion f4ggot my brain is bigger than yours Wow, I'm impressed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77621441 Canada03/26/2020 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| KokoLoco User ID: 8572762 United States03/26/2020 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: **Watcher** Then PLEASE...tell us how safe this is and the proof from tests that back up your assertions. Others have been able to show how 5G is harmful to humans but I have YET to see evidence from others of it's safety! We'll wait. Against my better judgement, I just watched that boobtube video and it is completely and utterly useless just as I thought. And STILL you have NOTHING to counter what they say. Very telling. Let me guess when you use your microwave (assuming you did not throw it away ) you run into the other room or when a cfl that was popular 10 years ago broke, you'd call the hazmat team in and run out of the room.I DO know that when I stick a cup of water in my microwave for 2 minutes, it comes out boiling. Aren’t humans made up like 50-70% water? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66510547 Canada03/26/2020 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the while they where using the school lockdowns as an excuse (so that parents wouldn’t complain) to install 5G. Quoting: Kokoloco 8572762 “Are 5G / Biometric Systems Being Covertly Installed During the Lockdown, Where YOU Live?” [link to www.takebackyourpower.net (secure)] Here’s the video to the link you posted. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462 United States03/26/2020 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78617574 It's a free country. The companies can set up 5G, but they shouldn't use taxpayer funds for it. It is, literally, an unnecessary "upgrade". If they want to roll it out, fine. Let the customer decide what its value is. I'm ready to go back to landlines and dump my "smart" phone which is nothing but a tracking device built for malicious purposes. The main reason carriers are applying to government for aid in rolling out 5G is because they expect to make no profit from it otherwise. Nobody wants or needs those speeds, The modems use a lot of electricity. If your carrier sends you one, make sure they pay for the increase to your electricity bill. "Nobody wants or needs those speeds" Yeah: UH: Technology has not stopped improving in March of 2020: the "low latency"aspect swill enable the development of (remote)(tele-) surgery and self driving vehicles. I've already had a davinci robotic surgery witH the actual surgeon sitting across the operatingroom.with his head,hands and feet in the controller.: it was fantastic. I recovered much more quickly with little pain. Went home on the second day. A surgeon could operate ona patient from any where in the world with a"low latency" connection. And because its all done with computer controlled electronic drives. The manipulator Gain is adjustable That means a surgeon can move his fingers one-quarter inch and the controller moves the tool a few thousands of an inch. Like a cnc machine. I've worked around electronics and RF all my life: I trained on the original; 8085 microprocessor of the 70s Repaired and calibrated RF test equipment(frequency generators, oscilloscopes and spectrum analyzers) until I left industry as an electro-mechanical( controls) technician in the mid 2000s .This anti 5g woo is Plain old fear mongering. YES: THERE WILL BE MORE TRANSMITTERS INSTALLED PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SHORTER RANGE(AT THOSE FREQUENCIES) AND WILL TRANSMIT WITH LESS POWER THAN 4G CELL TOWERS! FINALLY, someone who understands. Thank you. it will be swell when thieves get the first risc router injectors and can see if a home is occupied RISC router? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Your ignorance truly is shining. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76093462 United States03/26/2020 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76093462 Against my better judgement, I just watched that boobtube video and it is completely and utterly useless just as I thought. And STILL you have NOTHING to counter what they say. Very telling. Let me guess when you use your microwave (assuming you did not throw it away ) you run into the other room or when a cfl that was popular 10 years ago broke, you'd call the hazmat team in and run out of the room.I DO know that when I stick a cup of water in my microwave for 2 minutes, it comes out boiling. Aren’t humans made up like 50-70% water? It's very very simple and I've explained this ad nauseam on other similar threads about the tech. It boils down to this. Power and distance. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8572762 United States03/26/2020 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5G has been rolling out in the big cities for awhile now. Can you give a direct link to the EO you are referencing? Quoting: Cebeij [link to www.govtrack.us (secure)] And [link to www.govtrack.us (secure)] |
