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America’s Corona Tsar, Andrew Fauci, Concedes Covid-19 May Be Just a Bad Flu With a Fatality Rate of 0.1%

 
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A quote from the New England Journal of Medicine, published March 26, 2020

Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted

List of authors.
Anthony S. Fauci, M.D., H. Clifford Lane, M.D., and Robert R. Redfield, M.D.

On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2

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Hello?

Probably THE most important article posted here all week.

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Pretty boring, right?

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THINGS ARE R I P E
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Cheap oil. Perhaps. I don't know for sure. But it sure is a pressurecoocker ready to whistle....

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Except by the numbers the death rate as of today is 1.7% dumb ass.
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THINGS ARE R I P E
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Cheap oil. Perhaps. I don't know for sure. But it sure is a pressurecoocker ready to whistle....

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Except by the numbers the death rate as of today is 1.7% dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78694722


According to whose numbers?

If more people have the virus, but have no symptoms, or very mild symptoms, and those people don't bother going to the doctor to get tested, than all those numbers are WRONG.

Dumb ass.
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Monthly death totals for the city of Bergamo, Italy. Note the March figures are not yet complete. Bergamo population 120,000.


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From City official records
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He is too short to be a Tsar maybe a Czar though.
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THINGS ARE R I P E
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Cheap oil. Perhaps. I don't know for sure. But it sure is a pressurecoocker ready to whistle....

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Except by the numbers the death rate as of today is 1.7% dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78694722


According to whose numbers?

If more people have the virus, but have no symptoms, or very mild symptoms, and those people don't bother going to the doctor to get tested, than all those numbers are WRONG.

Dumb ass.
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The virus still causes massive damage to internal organs. Meaning, over the next year, alot of people are going to mysteriously drop dead.

The only way to prevent that, is use the fisetin supplement to get rid of damaged cells, and collagen+zinc to replace the removed damaged cells.

Not only that, there are rumors that the Corona virus causes male infertility by going into the testicles. Hell, the second to third wave could start off as an STD.
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Cheap oil. Perhaps. I don't know for sure. But it sure is a pressurecoocker ready to whistle....

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75477006


Except by the numbers the death rate as of today is 1.7% dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78694722


According to whose numbers?

If more people have the virus, but have no symptoms, or very mild symptoms, and those people don't bother going to the doctor to get tested, than all those numbers are WRONG.

Dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265


The virus still causes massive damage to internal organs. Meaning, over the next year, alot of people are going to mysteriously drop dead.

The only way to prevent that, is use the fisetin supplement to get rid of damaged cells, and collagen+zinc to replace the removed damaged cells.

Not only that, there are rumors that the Corona virus causes male infertility by going into the testicles. Hell, the second to third wave could start off as an STD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117000


That's all very hysterically exciting, but the New England Journal of Medicine now says that the actual death rate from this virus may be as low as 0.1%.

That's a FACT. Not a rumor that you just pulled out of your ass.

Millions of people have been thrown out of work, and trillions of dollars have been lost from the global economy over NOTHING.
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Except by the numbers the death rate as of today is 1.7% dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78694722


According to whose numbers?

If more people have the virus, but have no symptoms, or very mild symptoms, and those people don't bother going to the doctor to get tested, than all those numbers are WRONG.

Dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265


The virus still causes massive damage to internal organs. Meaning, over the next year, alot of people are going to mysteriously drop dead.

The only way to prevent that, is use the fisetin supplement to get rid of damaged cells, and collagen+zinc to replace the removed damaged cells.

Not only that, there are rumors that the Corona virus causes male infertility by going into the testicles. Hell, the second to third wave could start off as an STD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117000


That's all very hysterically exciting, but the New England Journal of Medicine now says that the actual death rate from this virus may be as low as 0.1%.

That's a FACT. Not a rumor that you just pulled out of your ass.

Millions of people have been thrown out of work, and trillions of dollars have been lost from the global economy over NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265



I repeat. Explain the death count being seen in worst hit areas in Italy

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Pretty boring, right?

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It's dribble you moron.
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THINGS ARE R I P E
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Cheap oil. Perhaps. I don't know for sure. But it sure is a pressurecoocker ready to whistle....

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Except by the numbers the death rate as of today is 1.7% dumb ass.
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But the people at the hospitals said the people coming in are OBESE, have DIABETES and something else. VERY UNHEALTHY PEOPLE. They don't take care of themselves-they eat donuts all day long. THESE are the people who are dying. Oh and they all probably got the flu shot too.
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According to whose numbers?

If more people have the virus, but have no symptoms, or very mild symptoms, and those people don't bother going to the doctor to get tested, than all those numbers are WRONG.

Dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265


The virus still causes massive damage to internal organs. Meaning, over the next year, alot of people are going to mysteriously drop dead.

The only way to prevent that, is use the fisetin supplement to get rid of damaged cells, and collagen+zinc to replace the removed damaged cells.

Not only that, there are rumors that the Corona virus causes male infertility by going into the testicles. Hell, the second to third wave could start off as an STD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117000


That's all very hysterically exciting, but the New England Journal of Medicine now says that the actual death rate from this virus may be as low as 0.1%.

That's a FACT. Not a rumor that you just pulled out of your ass.

Millions of people have been thrown out of work, and trillions of dollars have been lost from the global economy over NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265



I repeat. Explain the death count being seen in worst hit areas in Italy

skull_fing
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Use google translate to read this.

Coronavirus: ISS, in Italy there are only two deaths ascertained so far due to Covid-19

Coronavirus: Iss, in Italia i decessi accertati finora per causa del Covid-19 sono solo due
[link to www.agenzianova.com (secure)]

The president of Italy's Higher Institute of Health, Silvio Brusaferro, says that at the time that article was written, only TWO of those dead were determined to have died from the virus, and that his team wasn't even sure about those.

Hysteria and bullshit catches people's attention. People LOVE to shit their pants in fear. It gets the adrenaline going, and gets them all wound up.

Facts, on the other hand, are boring, and usually get ignored.

I get that.

I see it ALL the time.

Here's some cool smilies to liven things up. People really like these things.

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The virus still causes massive damage to internal organs. Meaning, over the next year, alot of people are going to mysteriously drop dead.

The only way to prevent that, is use the fisetin supplement to get rid of damaged cells, and collagen+zinc to replace the removed damaged cells.

Not only that, there are rumors that the Corona virus causes male infertility by going into the testicles. Hell, the second to third wave could start off as an STD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117000


That's all very hysterically exciting, but the New England Journal of Medicine now says that the actual death rate from this virus may be as low as 0.1%.

That's a FACT. Not a rumor that you just pulled out of your ass.

Millions of people have been thrown out of work, and trillions of dollars have been lost from the global economy over NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265



I repeat. Explain the death count being seen in worst hit areas in Italy

skull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76061085


Use google translate to read this.

Coronavirus: ISS, in Italy there are only two deaths ascertained so far due to Covid-19

Coronavirus: Iss, in Italia i decessi accertati finora per causa del Covid-19 sono solo due
[link to www.agenzianova.com (secure)]

The president of Italy's Higher Institute of Health, Silvio Brusaferro, says that at the time that article was written, only TWO of those dead were determined to have died from the virus, and that his team wasn't even sure about those.

Hysteria and bullshit catches people's attention. People LOVE to shit their pants in fear. It gets the adrenaline going, and gets them all wound up.

Facts, on the other hand, are boring, and usually get ignored.

I get that.

I see it ALL the time.

Here's some cool smilies to liven things up. People really like these things.

agumballscaredsfanbonghitpeepantsahhhjihad
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I gave you real death figures.

So what the fuck are they all doing of you stupid fucking cunt.
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That's all very hysterically exciting, but the New England Journal of Medicine now says that the actual death rate from this virus may be as low as 0.1%.

That's a FACT. Not a rumor that you just pulled out of your ass.

Millions of people have been thrown out of work, and trillions of dollars have been lost from the global economy over NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265



I repeat. Explain the death count being seen in worst hit areas in Italy

skull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76061085


Use google translate to read this.

Coronavirus: ISS, in Italy there are only two deaths ascertained so far due to Covid-19

Coronavirus: Iss, in Italia i decessi accertati finora per causa del Covid-19 sono solo due
[link to www.agenzianova.com (secure)]

The president of Italy's Higher Institute of Health, Silvio Brusaferro, says that at the time that article was written, only TWO of those dead were determined to have died from the virus, and that his team wasn't even sure about those.

Hysteria and bullshit catches people's attention. People LOVE to shit their pants in fear. It gets the adrenaline going, and gets them all wound up.

Facts, on the other hand, are boring, and usually get ignored.

I get that.

I see it ALL the time.

Here's some cool smilies to liven things up. People really like these things.

agumballscaredsfanbonghitpeepantsahhhjihad
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I gave you real death figures.

So what the fuck are they all doing of you stupid fucking cunt.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76061085


Dying of.
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The virus still causes massive damage to internal organs. Meaning, over the next year, alot of people are going to mysteriously drop dead.

The only way to prevent that, is use the fisetin supplement to get rid of damaged cells, and collagen+zinc to replace the removed damaged cells.

Not only that, there are rumors that the Corona virus causes male infertility by going into the testicles. Hell, the second to third wave could start off as an STD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117000


That's all very hysterically exciting, but the New England Journal of Medicine now says that the actual death rate from this virus may be as low as 0.1%.

That's a FACT. Not a rumor that you just pulled out of your ass.

Millions of people have been thrown out of work, and trillions of dollars have been lost from the global economy over NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265



I repeat. Explain the death count being seen in worst hit areas in Italy

skull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76061085


Use google translate to read this.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265


I checked. It was a link to a news item from several weeks ago. You're either a liar or a paid poster - or both.
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One last bump, and then I will leave you to wallow in your own stupidity.

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One last thing

I gave you real death figures.

So what the fuck are they all doing of you stupid fucking cunt.


Read the article. That's I posted it. So you could read it.

They died of other diseases. Almost all of them were 80+ years old, and had everything from heart diseases to cancer.

They tested positive for the virus, but they died WITH the virus, not of it.

Half the people who visited this forum today probably have this virus, and they don't even know it.
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One last bump, and then I will leave you to wallow in your own stupidity.

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Once again explain this before you clock off shift

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One last thing

I gave you real death figures.

So what the fuck are they all doing of you stupid fucking cunt.


Read the article. That's I posted it. So you could read it.

They died of other diseases. Almost all of them were 80+ years old, and had everything from heart diseases to cancer.

They tested positive for the virus, but they died WITH the virus, not of it.

Half the people who visited this forum today probably have this virus, and they don't even know it.
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Yes they just happened to randomly die of something else in enormous numbers at exactly the same time SARS-CoV-2 was passing through.

Were you born this stupid or did they have to pay you to get this way?


And no half this forum don't have it right now. Not even close.
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Except by the numbers the death rate as of today is 1.7% dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78694722


According to whose numbers?

If more people have the virus, but have no symptoms, or very mild symptoms, and those people don't bother going to the doctor to get tested, than all those numbers are WRONG.

Dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265


The virus still causes massive damage to internal organs. Meaning, over the next year, alot of people are going to mysteriously drop dead.

The only way to prevent that, is use the fisetin supplement to get rid of damaged cells, and collagen+zinc to replace the removed damaged cells.

Not only that, there are rumors that the Corona virus causes male infertility by going into the testicles. Hell, the second to third wave could start off as an STD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58117000


That's all very hysterically exciting, but the New England Journal of Medicine now says that the actual death rate from this virus may be as low as 0.1%.

That's a FACT. Not a rumor that you just pulled out of your ass.

Millions of people have been thrown out of work, and trillions of dollars have been lost from the global economy over NOTHING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78699265


Feb 28, 2020 publish date.
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That is the same Dr. Fauci that said: "The flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%. This has a mortality rate of 10 times that. That's the reason I want to emphasize we have to stay ahead of the game in preventing this." If current stats hold COVID-19 is significantly more than 10 times more lethal that the seasonal flu. There are many other differences, which some say makes COVID-19 worse than the seasonal flu:

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Rather than speculating, look at the cold hard numbers; total confirmed cases and deaths (as of March 28 at 7:15 PM CST).

Global mortality rate: 662,643 total cases and 30,854 total deaths = 4.65% mortality rate
[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

US mortality rate; totals and the last 4 days

Totals: 123,313 cases and 2,211 deaths = 1.79% mortality rate
March 25: 13,355 new cases and 247 new deaths = 1.85% mortality rate
March 26: 17,224 new cases and 268 new deaths = 1.6% mortality rate
March 27: 18,691 new cases and 400 new deaths = 2.15% mortality rate
March 28: 19,187 new cases and 515 new deaths = 2.69% mortality rate
[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

At 1.79%, the mortality rate for COVID-19 is almost 18 times higher than the seasonal flu as of now. The increasing mortality rate is disturbing, which I sure hope changes. A couple of days ago the US mortality rate was 1.5%, and has risen to just under 1.8%; 0.3% is a lot of lives, and is 0.2% higher than the 0.1% mortality rate for the seasonal flu. Unfortunately, the thought that as testing increased the mortality rate would decrease is not working out that way so far. While there are more COVID-19 cases than confirmed, the same is true for the seasonal flu; you often hear others (and perhaps yourself) say I had/have the flu, without a test.
While these experts can make projections all they want, the cold hard and very unfortunate numbers is the reality.

With the death of a nurse in New York yesterday, many nurses (such as the 12 nurses at the University of Illinois Hospital In Chicago that tested positive), doctors (like the dozens of doctors in Italy that died), first responders (such as EMS personnel and police officers, like the over 500 NYPD officers that tested positive with 1 death) brings home that nurses, doctors, other health care workers, and first responders are risking their (and their familiars) health to treat patients. I would hope we could all agree to say a huge thank you to them for their sacrifices!





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