The unknown forum doctor post re: how to create a ff coronavirus pandemic

Bump for discussion. If I could I would change the thread title to 'healthcare worker'.

I am not claiming there is not a novel cov out there nor is it the claim of the 'healthcare worker'. However I think the claim that they are not specifically able to test for covid19 versus regular everyday coronavirus is a serious claim. It means that if that is the case we are being lied to and therefore manipulated.

in the main covid thread I was asked to explain the increase in number of deaths and my response was basically if you are planning a ff pandemic, you certainly are going to control the narrative, where are all the bodies?

Something does not add up, that is for sure.

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This is a great post!


And it lines up with everything I've been hearing from several family/friends currently working in hospitals.



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The FDA has tests.
Start there to prove what the AD said.
Great post!

I saw this as well, it seems to have some traction on some web sites as well as blogs and forums. However I have been unable to find the source, the medical forum where the healthcare worker supposedly posted the claims.

'The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.'

The above is a serious claim and I am wondering if there are those out there who can support or deny AND give supporting evidence. The two links I provided, from the cdc as well as the wsj seem to support that they are using RT-PCR tests but they are not necessairly able to prove much more then simple coronavirus.

Thanks for posting, hopefully we can find out whether or not this is true.

Feel free to supply some of the information, the more people looking into the possibility that they are simply now claiming any coronavirus positive result as covid19 is serious. Not to mention they also claim that we all have very small viral loads of various viruses in us, might they be picking up these small loads and claiming covid19 to inflate the numbers and thus cause panic for ulterior motives?

Inquiring minds want to know, feel free to ass any supporting info from the FDA. I found info on tests via the cdc which supported the claim that PCR (RT) tests are used to determine if the person has covid19.

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I've heard that all tests/results must go to the CDC and they are interpreted and relayed back to the doctors from there.

And the (long) length of time it takes to get the results back from the tests is puzzling to the health care workers I've spoken with... 2 nurses, a microbiologist, and a hospital administrator.




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If that is the case, it certainly would help to control the narrative. The CDC site claims the RT-PRC test has a turn around of 4 to 6 hours, which makes it seem to me like the hospital or local lab could provide the result.

I suppose however this does not mean that the results are produced in 4 to 6 hours at the cdc and then returned to the location the test was taken. Would love to get clarification as obviously the cdc would be in position to better control the narrative then if results were produced locally.



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Doom

If they are evil enough they can lock up or quarantine anyone they want based on the "asymptomatic carriers" model because as you stated everyone has flu virus fragments in their body.

It seems Thermo Fisher Scientific is claiming to make RT PCR test kits that can identify to 100% accuracy of the covid19 genome. I suppose the question then is, are the cdc test kits able to do the same? Are the ones being utilized out in the field able to do the same? Is this claim even legit?



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That might be part of the WHY. Also it could be used to force one to get the vaccine or be part of ID2020 that might be required to participate in society. There is so much potential for this to infect every aspect of our lives, I am not even sure how you stop it from happening minus the Q phenomena, which seems just as likely to be a psyop.

Can you tell me about ID2020?

There seems to be plenty of info here on GLP if you search it, I have not put much time into it. There is connection of B&M Gates Foundation with Event 201, ID2020 and of course vaccines. I am sure if you just use the search function you will find numerous threads on ID2020. If you do research, feel free to post back what you find as it might be part of the WHO and WHY a worldwide false flag pandemic is happening.

Yep.

Essentially Gates is talking about everyone needing a biometric certificate to prove they were tested or had been vaccinated. To go hand in hand, his foundation and MS are involved w/ ID2020 which is intended to help people get health care for those who do not have legal proof of identification.

You have to wonder why these things all seem to fit so neatly together and Gates is in the middle of it all and where it might lead.

Thread: Bill Gates: Coronavirus Means We Need ‘Digital Certificates’ To Prove Who Received Vaccine (Page 2)
[link to blogs.microsoft.com (secure)] (from the above thread)

Appreciate the bump, would much prefer you elaborate.

You're correct about the tests OP.

They have to be sent to Atlanta for the CDC to process. Given the proper reagent (i think that's what it's called) any hospital or lab can process the test. They already do it for every other virus.

When (or rather if) the coronavirus (covid-19) test is available to the public for home testing, like they're promising,
it'll really bite the official narrative in the ass.
That's why the home test keeps being promised, but will never get delivered.

Last Edited by Sikhed on 03/29/2020 09:05 PM

PS: I pinned your thread OP.
This needs exposure!

Thanks for the pin!

So that is counter the information that was given to Alwaysme, makes me wonder if there are various tests and methods in play currently. Do you know if they can test specifically for covid19 or is it a generic test for coronavirus'? This is basically what this thread is about, trying to determine the validity of the claims from the healthcare worker.

I have found a manufacturer of test kits that claim to test to 100% to the genome, is this in the field now? Do all RT-PCR tests have this capability or is this new?

Thanks for your input!

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Liars all.

Covid scam

Extremely (intentionally) flawed testing/data.

The following is from a medical forum. The writer, who is a widely respected professional scientist in the US, prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days.

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I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments.

This is why you’re hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That’s because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues.

The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.

The problem is the test is known not to work.

It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.

Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.

The New Coronavirus Outbreak, COVID-19, Sounds Menacing and Is

The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.

And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.

If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.

If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis.

And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.

Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus.

They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive

PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common.

There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.

All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease.

Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die.

You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on.

Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist.

Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically.

Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic.

But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways.

1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead.

2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers.

3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience.

4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen.

Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.

They can not “confirm” something for which there is no accurate test.

Thanks for sharing. five stars

Last Edited by Ears To Hear on 03/29/2020 08:21 PM

Maybe they really do have problems with the poor that has no ID, lots of work hours going into eradicating old school sicknesses through those vaccine programs.

I'm not taking any vaccine though.

The ID thing I like, I'm tired of having to memorise all kinds of codes for different cards and online accounts.

Thanks for the bump, I was not the original person who shared this on the forum. I am however asking how legit is it? It seems like a plausible theory at least as to HOW a ff pandemic might be pulled off. Obviously you would need more then this such as control of media and of course governments and the major health organizations. Which of course could be claimed to be had by 'the cabal', 'nwo illuminati', 'tptb',etc.

This point though, how might you fool those working in the healthcare industry into playing along was bugging me. How could it be done? Well you of course would control the tests because you control the major health organizations. If these tests are not able to test specifically for covid19, then you can easily inflate numbers to those in the industry. The more real it would seem to them, the less backlash and or speaking out you have against the narrative.

I would have to question, why not just help them get the proper and current identification? You basically have to go through the same process of getting them identification, why bother with creating a whole new system that could have so many other (nefarious) uses? Would not that cost much more money, money that could be used to actually treat those people?

To each their own I suppose, I myself do not like the idea of being tracked any more then we already are.

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You ever thought about the millions of illigals not even registered that avoids an ID at all costs, it's part of your border issue also.