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No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature

 
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No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Scientists took conspiracy theories about SARS-CoV-2’s origins seriously, and debunked them

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Scientists took conspiracy theories about SARS-CoV-2’s origins seriously, and debunked them

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The spread of it wasn't
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Nature does not crossbreed a flying mouse w/ a snake iamwith
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
It was discovered by scientists at the Wuhan Lab. The Wuhan Lab even had job advertisements about a new terrible virus they discovered. Patient Number 0 was a scientist at the lab then scrubbed by the CCP. This is a big conspiracy in China right now.


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Nature does not crossbreed a flying mouse w/ a snake iamwith
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but a virus can mutate

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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
It was discovered by scientists at the Wuhan Lab. The Wuhan Lab even had job advertisements about a new terrible virus they discovered. Patient Number 0 was a scientist at the lab then scrubbed by the CCP. This is a big conspiracy in China right now.


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Lol a random YouTube video vs real genetic studies by experts. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Fact: Coronavirus or any other virus has never been isolated or scientifically determined to be a pathogen.

It’s fake as hell.

The test is for RNA sequence. How did they find the RNA in the first place? Maybe the RNA sequence they think I from the virus is simply naturally occurs in humans. What the test kit or vaccines inject DNA into people so they create specific RNA?
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Lol you 1starers ate pretty funny.
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Lol you 1starers are pretty funny.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Fact: Coronavirus or any other virus has never been isolated or scientifically determined to be a pathogen.

It’s fake as hell.

The test is for RNA sequence. How did they find the RNA in the first place? Maybe the RNA sequence they think I from the virus is simply naturally occurs in humans. What the test kit or vaccines inject DNA into people so they create specific RNA?
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
It was discovered by scientists at the Wuhan Lab. The Wuhan Lab even had job advertisements about a new terrible virus they discovered. Patient Number 0 was a scientist at the lab then scrubbed by the CCP. This is a big conspiracy in China right now.


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Lol a random YouTube video vs real genetic studies by experts. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid
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You didn't even watch the video because if you did, you would see it says where the bat cave and the people were that first came in contact with it. The video is not about conspiracies and it doesn't even say it was made in a lab. Good job making yourself look like an idiot.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Fact: Coronavirus or any other virus has never been isolated or scientifically determined to be a pathogen.

It’s fake as hell.

The test is for RNA sequence. How did they find the RNA in the first place? Maybe the RNA sequence they think I from the virus is simply naturally occurs in humans. What the test kit or vaccines inject DNA into people so they create specific RNA?
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A juw in charge says the sample they supply your lab is a "virus" so it's a "virus".

DON'T QUESTION THE JUW.
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Nature does not crossbreed a flying mouse w/ a snake iamwith
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but a virus can mutate

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Yes, in the lab.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Fact: Coronavirus or any other virus has never been isolated or scientifically determined to be a pathogen.

It’s fake as hell.

The test is for RNA sequence. How did they find the RNA in the first place? Maybe the RNA sequence they think I from the virus is simply naturally occurs in humans. What the test kit or vaccines inject DNA into people so they create specific RNA?
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[link to neue-medizin.com]

Bardens vs Lanka 2016: no one could successfully isolate a virus to win the contest. No virus has been proven using the Koch test.

Although Bardens used 6 published papers to show that there is a measles virus, none of them had isolated the virus and none of the experiments performs are reproduceable or used proper scientific technique.

They try to hide the loss by saying that the contest was about one paper but six were provided, but that issue is just a distraction from the real issue. You have to read the case yourself using google translate
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
"It was clear “almost overnight” that the virus wasn’t human-made, Andersen says. Anyone hoping to create a virus would need to work with already known viruses and engineer them to have desired properties.

But the SARS-CoV-2 virus has components that differ from those of previously known viruses, so they had to come from an unknown virus or viruses in nature. “Genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone,” Andersen and colleagues write in the study.

“This is not a virus somebody would have conceived of and cobbled together. It has too many distinct features, some of which are counterintuitive,” Garry says. “You wouldn’t do this if you were trying to make a more deadly virus.”"


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So, let me get this straight. The reason the scientists believe and assume that it was not manufactured is because it has components they have never found in any virus in nature and doesn't use a previously used virus backbone?

So, the scientists are saying they rather assume that their is some unknown virus; virus x if you will, out there somewhere in nature that somehow naturally gave rise to this virus, than assume the reason there are components that differ from any known virus, is because those sections may not come from nature at all but a lab using CRISPer like technology.

The idea of the counterintutiveness of the virus also assumes the desired purpose and outcome of the virus by the viral engineer.

Frankly, it looks like a bunch of "educated" assumptions and guesses of some scientists masquerading as "proof" that the virus is natural. In any case it's filled with a whole lot of assumptions, which are unbecoming of scientists, more akin to propagandists.

Fuck you Big Brother and Fuck you Ministry of Truth.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
even if it is proven it was not a product of genetic engineering, that does not mean it was not collected in nature and stored and/or multiplied in a lab then released either accidentally of intentionally.
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Taiwanese professor says Wuhan coronavirus likely man-made

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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
It is FROM bats, most likely by eating them....


Chinese woman tells truth:



Covid-19 Evolved Naturally & Wasn’t Created In Virus Labs, Scientists Debunk Claims


Covid-19 is Nature’s punishment on Mankind for their uncivilised habits. I, Shi Zhengli, swear on my life that it has nothing to do with the laboratory.

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Chinese/Asian women are less prone to lie, than Chinese/Asian men.



China's biggest problem? Too many men - CNN.com
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
idiots..

You use animals as the petri dish to culture the virus, which means it was manipulated in a lab with crispr then passed through animals then humans,. That fact don’t make it natural.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
o please ... the first test results that identified the virus - done in India - revealed that it was a corona virus that had been "tweaked" ... that it originated in the USA, and was purchased by the Chinese with Obama's permission, from a bio-weapons lab in North Carolina, way back in 2015 - and documented by an article in JAMA that pointed out how foolish it was to sell these viruses ...

OK, it is a natural occuring virus, but MAN-made it lethal, and highly contageous ... so once again ... BOTH theories are correct ... it is an (man) ALTERED virus

and starting in India, it has been proven in ten other countries that it was genetically engineered to become a Pandemic.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Scientists took conspiracy theories about SARS-CoV-2’s origins seriously, and debunked them

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Im a real scientist. Two PhDs in biology, including genetics. Over a decade of experience working in molecular genetics and genetic engineering. And medical school.

There is a MUCH HIGHER probability that this was an engineered viral genome that not. Based on my experience and research on Covid 19 sequences, I put the probability of this being a manipulated genome at 95% to 5% against.

Sequence has been masked through generations of passage in host model species, most likely pangolin, and selected for infectivity. Because of these passages during testing and development, the mutational background has varied from "library" sequences. These "library" discrepancies are what these nay-saying biologists hang their conclusions on.

Aside from a shitstorm of circumstantial evidence and a peer-reviewed paper trail suggesting development in biowarfare related research labs, there exist a couple of very well written papers offering statistical analyses on the subject that bolster the conclusion of "Artificial."

But people gonna peep. So you believe what you want to believe.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Lot of BS talk with no facts. Want some facts?

Fact: China destroyed original samples and didn't let the US CDC enter.

Fact: China lied and let it spread.

Fact: China is using disinformation currently.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Scripps uses "Grants and contracts provide funding for a significant portion of the institute's research. This revenue is derived primarily from the National Institutes of Health and other federal agencies. "

The National Institutes of Health is the organization that Fauci runs. He supported the "gain of function" research that led to the effort to weaponize similar pathogens.

George Webb has had some good videos on this research.

Interesting funding relationship.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
There is no such test to prove either way. What they do in labs is copy nature. They sort of imitate what happens naturally in a controlled setting. The result is impossible to tell apart from the real thing anyone that says different is fake news or just too stupid to understand.
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Lol you 1starers ate pretty funny.
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One fact you neglect in your worship of all things science.

Most science publications are "on the funding payroll." The people who fund scientists get the studies and results they want.

Scientists are subject to corruption and herd mentality just as all human beings are. Just look at the Dr. Lieber from Harvard-- on the Chinese payroll to the tune of $50,000 per month and you are asking us to trust these jokers? I don't think so....

So why did the NIH and China fund "gain of function" research on bat SARS at UNC Chapel Hill?

WHY DO WE HAVE 400 BSL-4 BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS LABS in the US?

So nothing ever "escapes" from these perfect labs? Like why did they shut down Fort Detrick last August?

Why is Plum Island just a few short miles away from Old Lyme-- the epicenter of Lyme disease?

Think about the above before you have "blind faith" in corrupt scientists and their "publications."
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Bullshit!
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
WRONG!

It was a natural virus that was leaked from the Wuhan Virology Lab in Hubei.

It would have NEVER come in contact with humans except for the transfer of the virus to patient zero at the Wuhan lab.
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Blah blah global warming, blah blah there's more then 2 genders, blah blah yada yada scientists say. Can take your stupid ass agenda following liberal scientists and jam straight up your ass. I've seen more IQ points in dogs.
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the truth about it is classified
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Re: No, the coronavirus wasn’t made in a lab. A genetic analysis shows it’s from nature
Scientists took conspiracy theories about SARS-CoV-2’s origins seriously, and debunked them

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Cina is beyond BIG: I wonder if China is a tiny, little Prehistoric planet that slammed into Earth. who used Holistic Remedies in stead of our chemical meds, thus bringing pre-history diseases wither and keeping them alive, well and kicking.





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