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Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?

 
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Phone, car, computer--- if it has a 'chip' in it --it can be tracked!!!
My step moms brother ( he is one of the asshole cops that has an ego) was bragging about how the cops can make a call and they can turn on your TV, computer, radio, phone, clock -what ever has a camera/mic in it... and listen/watch you in your home... Do not know how true this is... he likes to think he is uber important.. personally, I would love to kick him in the face!!!
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Just buy a cheap disposable for calling 911 and keep it in the car turned off. You really should have one with you in a car at night, that is one of the great things about it. No more standing on the side of a dark road hoping some kind stranger spots you. You call AAA or 911.

I don't have a smart phone, I have a 3G trac phoon flip. If they force 5G on all phones, at that point I won't have one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16762662


So when you say you won't have one if they force 5g, if your away from home, how will you make a call or receive an important call from your employer or family?
 Quoting: Everwayne


Just like people did in the 70's and 80's.. check messages when you get home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78712080


I hear you. I think that's a viable option other than if an employer expects you to always be available, but that's just another control mechanism.
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
In Oslo, Norway, they are going to track us now (openly).

Fun experiments:

Leave phone at home and see if you get tracked regardless (here we will receive message on phone if doing wrong). Then we know they likely use face recognition.

Leave phone at home and have a face mask on and see if you get tracked regardless. That would be interesting;)

At some point, leaving home without trackable phone will get you in prison.

So with all the threads about tracking us with our smartphones it has got me thinking about ditching my smartphone and getting a little flip phone with no internet capabilities. So I'm wondering if any of you have done this and are there even cell phones available now that can't be tracked? By the way I do know they have been tracking us with our cellphones for some time now.
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 Quoting: Dataskrekk


Damn I can see that happening, cop stops you, asks for license, insurance, and proof of phone/tracker. Crazy.
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Just buy a cheap disposable for calling 911 and keep it in the car turned off. You really should have one with you in a car at night, that is one of the great things about it. No more standing on the side of a dark road hoping some kind stranger spots you. You call AAA or 911.

I don't have a smart phone, I have a 3G trac phoon flip. If they force 5G on all phones, at that point I won't have one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16762662


I've been using burners for years (bought with cash by the way) and never carry one with me unless I'm going to be out for days. What to do when things go full 5g is going to be a problem but somebody always finds a way. rockon
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Tracking by triangulation is always possible when there's a signal. But there are dumbphones without internet, gps and bluetooth. Cheap as fuck haha.
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Unless I ping off a tower, which normally is the case, you will be tracked always. But you need a cell without data, web or GPS.

I know, I have one. hf

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Lolol
It’s a radio bro it has a line of sight connection to a tower they have a MAC address they don’t know who you are but they know that device is in your pocket if it’s turned on and I think there’s shit going on that if it’s turned off you don’t have access to the battery on an iPhone wonder why
I would say no want to check into packet radio my brother
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04/07/2020 11:35 AM
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Hey OP,

for some added credibility I used to be an AT&T store manager...

There are a few ways to have a cell phone that you use only when you want to, even a smart phone with all of your games, camera, or "bells and whistles" as the older folk used to call them.

Most likely your cell phone has either a physical SIM card in the device which gives the device a code in which the towers use to communicate with. Without this SIM card in the phone, no matter what type of phone it is, it is unable to connect to any service. Most phones (if not all of them) do not have built in GPS like a Garmin, your GPS watch, or your car may have, they rely on internet access to pinpoint your location, or if you are using cell service you are able to use that ban width to connect to satellites if there is no wireless internet access near you.

There are two main groups of smart phones,

Iphone or IOS (Iphone Operating System)

or

Android (Samsung, Huaweii, LG, ETC)

Apple users beware, these phones and operating systems are designed to be tamper resistant meaning you cannot change any setting, or reprogram your device without a crapload of knowledge and tools at you disposal. So any form of trying to stay off the grid with Apple devices is almost a lost cause.
however you are still able to take your phone offline completely by removing your physical SIM card that I mentioned above by using a paper clip. Doing this coupled with shutting the phone down after turning off WIFI and Bluetooth should make your Iphone a ghost for the general public, but iPhones are designed to be secure and trackable by default meaning even if your WIFI is off, the phone can still be tracked even if it is NEAR a wifi enabled location. when you want to make a call, slip in your SIM card and make a call, otherwise you're off the grid (for the most part)

and Android users you're in luck

Androids can be jail broken and reprogrammed with ease, removing any and all factory settings which come with the device in order to make tracking your expensive device trackable and recoverable if it were ever to become lost or stolen.

Same deal goes with android users, remove that SIM card and turn off your WIFI and bluetooth, couple that with a jailbroken device and boom, untraceable device. Throw in your prepaid or "burner" phone numbers SIM card to make calls and you're free.

SIDE NOTE: some smart phones have built in SIM cards that CANNOT be physically removed without taking the phone apart and carefully doing some surgical work on your motherboard. If you have an active SIM card the only way to deactivate it totally would be to remove it, just changing your SIM to a physical SIM won't do the trick if you're looking to be completely non-trackable.

also flip phones and any other wirelessly connected device with have one fo these SIM cards in it, its just a matter of finding it.

Good luck all, and stay safe out there!
-kerdizo
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04/07/2020 11:36 AM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Nope all phones can be traced.

Even flip phones and satellite phones.
 Quoting: Callin


So even their movement can be traced? I know whenever you make or receive a call your location is traceable, but are you saying these phones can be pinpointed at anytime just like smartphones?
 Quoting: Everwayne


Yes, they can.


Recent example:

Did you see this video of how they tracked "anonymously" all the cell phones present at Spring Break and where those cell phones eventually travelled to for the next 7 days because of COVID-19?


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04/07/2020 11:36 AM
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Search Burner Phones
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04/07/2020 11:38 AM
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As others have noted:

1) buy a n d r o i d with cash or used phn

2) remove sim card

3) never buy a data plan, let along with your credit card or account in your name

4) use a pee pee n
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No. All cell phones can be tracked. Put into requirements in like 2002. All you can do is not carry it, really.

Also, it doesn't appear to matter if you turn location off or not. It's just your personal tracking device.
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What if you remove the battery ?
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04/07/2020 11:39 AM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
They can all be tracked
No name cash disposable ones with no gps is your best bet.
They have to be triangulated and there are tricks that can be done to make you appear somewhere you are not.
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04/07/2020 11:40 AM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
As a rule of thumb never connect your name to your phone in any way.

never buy anything with your debit/credit card ffs, no data plan.

NO DATA PLAN. is that sinking in? you don't even NEED it, you can make calls on wifi

Kvdantipsy is an app that blocks ur camera and mic for android

gps emulator for android changes ur gps location
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04/07/2020 11:42 AM
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As a rule of thumb never connect your name to your phone in any way.

never buy anything with your debit/credit card ffs, no data plan.

NO DATA PLAN. is that sinking in? you don't even NEED it, you can make calls on wifi

Kvdantipsy is an app that blocks ur camera and mic for android

gps emulator for android changes ur gps location
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*KvdAntiSpy
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04/07/2020 11:44 AM
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Jimmy McGill sell them....
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Hey OP,

for some added credibility I used to be an AT&T store manager...

There are a few ways to have a cell phone that you use only when you want to, even a smart phone with all of your games, camera, or "bells and whistles" as the older folk used to call them.

Most likely your cell phone has either a physical SIM card in the device which gives the device a code in which the towers use to communicate with. Without this SIM card in the phone, no matter what type of phone it is, it is unable to connect to any service. Most phones (if not all of them) do not have built in GPS like a Garmin, your GPS watch, or your car may have, they rely on internet access to pinpoint your location, or if you are using cell service you are able to use that ban width to connect to satellites if there is no wireless internet access near you.

There are two main groups of smart phones,

Iphone or IOS (Iphone Operating System)

or

Android (Samsung, Huaweii, LG, ETC)

Apple users beware, these phones and operating systems are designed to be tamper resistant meaning you cannot change any setting, or reprogram your device without a crapload of knowledge and tools at you disposal. So any form of trying to stay off the grid with Apple devices is almost a lost cause.
however you are still able to take your phone offline completely by removing your physical SIM card that I mentioned above by using a paper clip. Doing this coupled with shutting the phone down after turning off WIFI and Bluetooth should make your Iphone a ghost for the general public, but iPhones are designed to be secure and trackable by default meaning even if your WIFI is off, the phone can still be tracked even if it is NEAR a wifi enabled location. when you want to make a call, slip in your SIM card and make a call, otherwise you're off the grid (for the most part)

and Android users you're in luck

Androids can be jail broken and reprogrammed with ease, removing any and all factory settings which come with the device in order to make tracking your expensive device trackable and recoverable if it were ever to become lost or stolen.

Same deal goes with android users, remove that SIM card and turn off your WIFI and bluetooth, couple that with a jailbroken device and boom, untraceable device. Throw in your prepaid or "burner" phone numbers SIM card to make calls and you're free.

SIDE NOTE: some smart phones have built in SIM cards that CANNOT be physically removed without taking the phone apart and carefully doing some surgical work on your motherboard. If you have an active SIM card the only way to deactivate it totally would be to remove it, just changing your SIM to a physical SIM won't do the trick if you're looking to be completely non-trackable.

also flip phones and any other wirelessly connected device with have one fo these SIM cards in it, its just a matter of finding it.

Good luck all, and stay safe out there!
 Quoting: kerdizo


Almost all modern phones can operate without a SIM card present to make 911 calls.

They made it a law many years ago.

If the phone can make a 911 call without a SIM present, then it's whereabouts are known to the cellular towers/carriers.

As you mentioned, there are ways to root the OS on Android to spoof things like the IMEI # and other things, but the average person looking for anonymity isn't going to go through all that.
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OK, we know you can't stop being tracked via mobile phone (as we call them here.) But if you buy a PAYG (contract-free) phone from a shop, and don't register your name or address with anything on the internet, how are they going to know that blip on the radar is you? Just thinking outloud here.
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Just don't carry it. I don't leave home with a cell phone ever. We never had them for decades when I was growing up. Not really needed now. People just want to have their toys.
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What’s the point of having a mobile if it never leaves the house? Just get a landline
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Look into a Faraday Bag...
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Not true about a Farady Bag. The phone is able to calculate turns, distance, velocity, in/out of car, etc. from it's last known location, to the location you take it out of the bag. Even in Airplane mode, it is tracking your "movement" and then reports it to Google after you turn it back on. It does NOT need to be connected to cel towers or GPS Satellites to track your movement.
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Look into a Faraday Bag...
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Can you buy one or is it something we make ourselves?
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OK, we know you can't stop being tracked via mobile phone (as we call them here.) But if you buy a PAYG (contract-free) phone from a shop, and don't register your name or address with anything on the internet, how are they going to know that blip on the radar is you? Just thinking outloud here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78380533


they wont. they can't. buy with cash, of course.

the phone could be traced in other ways depending on how you use it, and if they can link it to you somewhere, but it would be very difficult.

if you use it for completely mundane things then there's no worry at all. the phone data may still be added to collecting programs but not with your name, not connected to you.

anyone buying with a credit card and creating a mobile account in their name is a fool, but billions do it without thinking.
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So with all the threads about tracking us with our smartphones it has got me thinking about ditching my smartphone and getting a little flip phone with no internet capabilities. So I'm wondering if any of you have done this and are there even cell phones available now that can't be tracked? By the way I do know they have been tracking us with our cellphones for some time now.
 Quoting: Everwayne


All that does is prevent marketers from tracking you. But all phones are tracked because it's so easy to do nowadays with cell tower triangulation.
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So with all the threads about tracking us with our smartphones it has got me thinking about ditching my smartphone and getting a little flip phone with no internet capabilities. So I'm wondering if any of you have done this and are there even cell phones available now that can't be tracked? By the way I do know they have been tracking us with our cellphones for some time now.
 Quoting: Everwayne


Buy (or even better, MAKE) a faraday bag. Put your phone in it when you want to neuter it. Blocks RF signals and GPS, effectively making it a disconnected brick. Carry it wherever you want and if you need to use it you can take it out whenever you desire and it works. Effectively eliminates the ability for your phone to act as a 24/7 tracking device for geo/microphone/etc.

P.S. Make sure to put it in airplane mode or it'll burn it's own battery trying to find a signal.
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Just don't carry it. I don't leave home with a cell phone ever. We never had them for decades when I was growing up. Not really needed now. People just want to have their toys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54469829


What’s the point of having a mobile if it never leaves the house? Just get a landline
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78696859


Why have both when a stationary mobile will do the same job and generally costs less plus gives you the option of mobility and simple disposability?
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Look into a Faraday Bag...
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Yup
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Just don't carry it. I don't leave home with a cell phone ever. We never had them for decades when I was growing up. Not really needed now. People just want to have their toys.
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We didn't have indoor plumbing for 99% of human existence either.
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Two ways to avoid it
1. Wrap it in foil completely. (Try it - call it from another phone, it wont ring.)
2. Keep your phone in the microwave oven. Microwave ovens are like faraday cages. Edward Snowden's trick.
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OP your car is also GPS tracked at all times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77924825


Newer vehicles, yes.

Just bought my wife a 2020 VW and it’s fully GPS’d. Of course, they “sell” that as a very cool feature, but in reality that information is being funneled to TPTB.

.
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I will not own a car with that crap on it. My 2008 had it but the module was removable and only required a flash of the computer to turn off the notice that it was not working.
Some cars require unsoldering the antenna from the module and leaving it installed.
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Just don't carry it. I don't leave home with a cell phone ever. We never had them for decades when I was growing up. Not really needed now. People just want to have their toys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54469829


I have an old flip phone that I never take out of its base. I don't need to have a smart phone with me. Its a bad idea to carry one.





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