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Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?

 
Anonymous Coward
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04/07/2020 12:52 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
No. All cell phones can be tracked. Put into requirements in like 2002. All you can do is not carry it, really.

Also, it doesn't appear to matter if you turn location off or not. It's just your personal tracking device.
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If you wrap it in aluminum foil, it cannot be tracked. Use extra heavy duty Reynolds wrap and make certain it is completely crimped all around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72091087


Or a small Faraday Cage.
Everwayne  (OP)

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04/07/2020 12:53 PM

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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Just buy a cheap disposable for calling 911 and keep it in the car turned off. You really should have one with you in a car at night, that is one of the great things about it. No more standing on the side of a dark road hoping some kind stranger spots you. You call AAA or 911.

I don't have a smart phone, I have a 3G trac phoon flip. If they force 5G on all phones, at that point I won't have one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16762662


So when you say you won't have one if they force 5g, if your away from home, how will you make a call or receive an important call from your employer or family?
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You'd have to go old school. We didn't have these until 20 years ago. How did we live?
 Quoting: sseess


True. But, I'm curious about other alternatives right now. When it's all said and done though, your suggestion may be the only way to really not be tracked.
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
No. All cell phones can be tracked. Put into requirements in like 2002. All you can do is not carry it, really.

Also, it doesn't appear to matter if you turn location off or not. It's just your personal tracking device.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


always remove the battery while not using it
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04/07/2020 12:54 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Even if the physical hardware AND software on the phone are not compromised, phones can be tracked merely by the way they connect to cell towers.
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
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Newer vehicles, yes.

Just bought my wife a 2020 VW and it’s fully GPS’d. Of course, they “sell” that as a very cool feature, but in reality that information is being funneled to TPTB.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258


A plain gps is a "receiver". it does NOT transmit.

If you've got a tesla that receives software up dates "over the air"( wifi/cell data is a two -way communication; That's different.)

another do

Your cell phone does constantly "ping" towers in the area.If it worries you leave it at home."But,but I want to make and receive calls"..Then it must not worry you that much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77376498


Touche. Looks like we have to draw the line somewhere.
 Quoting: Everwayne


Just leave the phone at home turned off with battery removed. Keep the phone in the refrigerator.

If your away and need to make a call, just use a pubic phone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46554685


I haven't seen a pay phone in a looong time. Do they still have them where you are?
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04/07/2020 12:55 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Once they get your DNA (genetic information) they wont need an digital address , they will have your analog address, your DNA will place you very nicely on the grig, just like a printer on the network stack... Remember Jade Helm... do a little digging into what "mastering the domain" really means and who is the domain ?
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:FUS:
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
There must be cellphones available that can’t be tracked.

Cuz I was watching Ozark on Netflix, and those criminals use cellphones all the time.
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04/07/2020 12:57 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Even if the physical hardware AND software on the phone are not compromised, phones can be tracked merely by the way they connect to cell towers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75051814


Even when they are in an alluminium bag?
Everwayne  (OP)

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04/07/2020 01:00 PM

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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Turn it off.. and if you want to make a call then turn it back on... problem solved
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I wish it was that easy...
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04/07/2020 01:02 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Older phones allow to remove the battery so they can not be tracked if they have no power.
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04/07/2020 01:02 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
you can just ditch the phone. We survived thousands of years without them.
Everwayne  (OP)

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04/07/2020 01:03 PM

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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Once they get your DNA (genetic information) they wont need an digital address , they will have your analog address, your DNA will place you very nicely on the grig, just like a printer on the network stack... Remember Jade Helm... do a little digging into what "mastering the domain" really means and who is the domain ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73318475


:FUS:
 Quoting: CheapThrills


That's pretty wild. And people are willfully sending their dna to ancestry . Com and places like that... damned
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04/07/2020 01:05 PM

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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
you can just ditch the phone. We survived thousands of years without them.
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And I know this man. I e already responded to several people about this, you're right, but that's not the point of the thread though
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
I have never owned a cell phone, smart or otherwise.

I have never sent a text message.

I made that choice because I did not want to microwave my head.
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04/07/2020 01:07 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Once they get your DNA (genetic information) they wont need an digital address , they will have your analog address, your DNA will place you very nicely on the grig, just like a printer on the network stack... Remember Jade Helm... do a little digging into what "mastering the domain" really means and who is the domain ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73318475


:FUS:
 Quoting: CheapThrills


That's pretty wild. And people are willfully sending their dna to ancestry . Com and places like that... damned
 Quoting: Everwayne


and paying good money to boot....

My biggest fear was a family member buying me that kit for my birthday or something... would be an expensive garbage can liner for me...
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04/07/2020 01:10 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Y? U got some shit to hide? HEY EVERYBODY, THIS GUY IS SUSPICIOUS!!!! SNITCH!@@@@@@!!!!
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04/07/2020 01:10 PM

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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
So with all the threads about tracking us with our smartphones it has got me thinking about ditching my smartphone and getting a little flip phone with no internet capabilities. So I'm wondering if any of you have done this and are there even cell phones available now that can't be tracked? By the way I do know they have been tracking us with our cellphones for some time now.
 Quoting: Everwayne


No, if your phone is on then it will ping towers, if they have pings from 3 towers your phone can be pinpointed. Wrap it up in foil to block it from communicating. But then you won't be getting calls either.
Come on and take a free ride.
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04/07/2020 01:11 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
The nature of cellular technology makes it impossible to have a cell phone and not be tracked. As you move about your phone handshakes with towers along the route you travel.For you to be able to receive calls the cellular network must know which towers are closest to you at any one time.

If it was ship to shore phones like those old car phones . it would be a different story . They basically worked like a CB radio and your specific location was not registered as you moved about.
 Quoting: Pete the Puma


A COUPLE YEARS ago I threw My cell phone into the woods , behind the house ... before the cops got there ... the first question the cop asked Me is ( where's Your phone ) I told Him the story ... He went into the woods and brought Me the phone ... all You need to know ..?
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
The best way to stop the most common tracking methods while still having a phone is to get one that can have the battery removed and a faraday bag. Keep the phone and battery separated, in the bag. If you need to use it, know that your location will immediately be logged. Otherwise, no way to track it.

Really you don't even need the faraday bag, just keep the phone turn off with the battery removed until you need it.
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04/07/2020 01:19 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Yep, two tin cans and a rope.
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04/07/2020 01:20 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
No they all have trackers

Turn it off
Wrap in in Aluminum foil
Problem solved
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04/07/2020 01:21 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
i have thought about this, one way to do this would be to have a device without cell phone capabilities and only connect it to wifi for making calls or texting using apps like viber.
Everwayne  (OP)

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04/07/2020 01:21 PM

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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
The best way to stop the most common tracking methods while still having a phone is to get one that can have the battery removed and a faraday bag. Keep the phone and battery separated, in the bag. If you need to use it, know that your location will immediately be logged. Otherwise, no way to track it.

Really you don't even need the faraday bag, just keep the phone turn off with the battery removed until you need it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78033058


Removing the battery seems like a solid way to go. I've only seen one article saying otherwise and it looked like a sketchy click bait sight.
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04/07/2020 01:23 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
So with all the threads about tracking us with our smartphones it has got me thinking about ditching my smartphone and getting a little flip phone with no internet capabilities. So I'm wondering if any of you have done this and are there even cell phones available now that can't be tracked? By the way I do know they have been tracking us with our cellphones for some time now.
 Quoting: Everwayne


All...that's the 911 service fee you pay on your cell bill. So we pay police, government to track our cellphones...not us but our phones.
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
No they all have trackers

Turn it off
Wrap in in Aluminum foil
Problem solved
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78655452


Not quite so. Anything that emits radio frequency in electromagnetic spectrum is being recorded and stored on supercomputers
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04/07/2020 01:26 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
So with all the threads about tracking us with our smartphones it has got me thinking about ditching my smartphone and getting a little flip phone with no internet capabilities. So I'm wondering if any of you have done this and are there even cell phones available now that can't be tracked? By the way I do know they have been tracking us with our cellphones for some time now.
 Quoting: Everwayne


No, if your phone is on then it will ping towers, if they have pings from 3 towers your phone can be pinpointed. Wrap it up in foil to block it from communicating. But then you won't be getting calls either.
 Quoting: DoomsdayGuy


This is true also...your "phone" can only be triangulated between towers.
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04/07/2020 01:28 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
No. All cell phones can be tracked. Put into requirements in like 2002. All you can do is not carry it, really.

Also, it doesn't appear to matter if you turn location off or not. It's just your personal tracking device.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Yep - but then your car might be tracking you as well.
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04/07/2020 01:30 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
In Oslo, Norway, they are going to track us now (openly).

Fun experiments:

Leave phone at home and see if you get tracked regardless (here we will receive message on phone if doing wrong). Then we know they likely use face recognition.

Leave phone at home and have a face mask on and see if you get tracked regardless. That would be interesting;)

At some point, leaving home without trackable phone will get you in prison.

So with all the threads about tracking us with our smartphones it has got me thinking about ditching my smartphone and getting a little flip phone with no internet capabilities. So I'm wondering if any of you have done this and are there even cell phones available now that can't be tracked? By the way I do know they have been tracking us with our cellphones for some time now.
 Quoting: Everwayne

 Quoting: Dataskrekk


In our country we can't go out without the phone under this lockdown, we must send sms first and then to have the phone for the reply so to show it if needed when stopped by the authorities.
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
Just buy a cheap disposable for calling 911 and keep it in the car turned off. You really should have one with you in a car at night, that is one of the great things about it. No more standing on the side of a dark road hoping some kind stranger spots you. You call AAA or 911.

I don't have a smart phone, I have a 3G trac phoon flip. If they force 5G on all phones, at that point I won't have one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16762662


So when you say you won't have one if they force 5g, if your away from home, how will you make a call or receive an important call from your employer or family?
 Quoting: Everwayne


Its amazing how people got along for so many years before cellphones.

I wonder how they did it.
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04/07/2020 01:32 PM
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Re: Are there cellphones available that can't be tracked?
No. All cell phones can be tracked. Put into requirements in like 2002. All you can do is not carry it, really.

Also, it doesn't appear to matter if you turn location off or not. It's just your personal tracking device.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Yep - but then your car might be tracking you as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24494291


Having location services on in addition to 911 allows non official groups to track you such as your boss, your ex, etc.





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