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Where Are The 2009 H1N1 Tards Who Claimed It Was More Deadly Than SARS-CoV-2? COVID-19 Has Killed Around 12,500 Americans In Less Than 40 Days

 
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Where Are The 2009 H1N1 Tards Who Claimed It Was More Deadly Than SARS-CoV-2? COVID-19 Has Killed Around 12,500 Americans In Less Than 40 Days
Around a year period 2009 H1N1 killed around 12,500 Americans, while in less than 40 days SARS-CoV-2 as killed around the same amount. So are you tards gonna keep claiming it was worse than the current Pandemic???

Here’s a Global case and death comparison of 2009 H1N1, SARS, and SARS2:
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In the same time frame 2009 H1N1 only had a Global death toll of over 700, while SARS2 has killed over 70K. It’s just the Flu though right???

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Around a year period 2009 H1N1 killed around 12,500 Americans, while in less than 40 days SARS-CoV-2 as killed around the same amount. So are you tards gonna keep claiming it was worse than the current Pandemic???

Here’s a Global case and death comparison of 2009 H1N1, SARS, and SARS2:
:SSC2:
:SSSC1:

In the same time frame 2009 H1N1 only had a Global death toll of over 700, while SARS2 has killed over 70K. It’s just the Flu though right???

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They is all dead?
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when you mark everydeath as covid related, it quickly adds up..

now look at non covid related deaths for this time of year and notice how no one is dying of anything else bur corona.

strange that.
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when you mark everydeath as covid related, it quickly adds up..

now look at non covid related deaths for this time of year and notice how no one is dying of anything else bur corona.

strange that.
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when you mark everydeath as covid related, it quickly adds up..

now look at non covid related deaths for this time of year and notice how no one is dying of anything else bur corona.

strange that.
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You know nuffink
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well done shit stain.
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Yeah sure...nice MSM fake tallies and big pharma propaganda. NO ONE HAS DIED OF ANY COVID-19, THERE ISN'T EVEN A REAL TEST FOR IT. TESTS ARE 80% FALSE POSITIVES, TOTALLY WORTHLESS. VIRUSES ARE NOT ALIVE< THEY ARE RNA PROTEINS, YOU CANNOT "KILL" A VIRUS, IT'S ALL A BIG PHARMA SCAM!

Corona is obviously a made up hoax to trick the public into forced vaccinations and a "covid-19" nazi surveillance state..

Anyone with a normal sniffle or allergy is being added to the covid-19 tallies.

Biggest medical fraud ever.
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when you mark everydeath as covid related, it quickly adds up..

now look at non covid related deaths for this time of year and notice how no one is dying of anything else bur corona.

strange that.
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You know nuffink
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clappa

well done shit stain.
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Huh, not nice, not nice at all..

Show me/point me to a source that you are using to substantiate your claim

thanks
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Yeah sure...nice MSM fake tallies and big pharma propaganda. NO ONE HAS DIED OF ANY COVID-19, THERE ISN'T EVEN A REAL TEST FOR IT. TESTS ARE 80% FALSE POSITIVES, TOTALLY WORTHLESS. VIRUSES ARE NOT ALIVE< THEY ARE RNA PROTEINS, YOU CANNOT "KILL" A VIRUS, IT'S ALL A BIG PHARMA SCAM!

Corona is obviously a made up hoax to trick the public into forced vaccinations and a "covid-19" nazi surveillance state..

Anyone with a normal sniffle or allergy is being added to the covid-19 tallies.

Biggest medical fraud ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78235342


You people truly are deluded...
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~ Terence McKenna

"Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to "die before you die" - and find that there is no death."

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Told ya......

They is all dead cos they didn't believe
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But deaths from heart attack, stroke, pneumonia and good ol' regular flu are DOWN.

So are the Corona numbers even accurate?
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when you mark everydeath as covid related, it quickly adds up..

now look at non covid related deaths for this time of year and notice how no one is dying of anything else bur corona.

strange that.
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You know nuffink
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clappa

well done shit stain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460564


Huh, not nice, not nice at all..

Show me/point me to a source that you are using to substantiate your claim

thanks
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just read this [link to www.ons.gov.uk (secure)]
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But deaths from heart attack, stroke, pneumonia and good ol' regular flu are DOWN.

So are the Corona numbers even accurate?
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I can offer a reason but it's just a hunch, the elderly and infirm/underlying health conditions are definitely more vulnerable so they would have died at some point from (insert health condition here) but the CV-19 Hastened the end.
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Yeah sure...nice MSM fake tallies and big pharma propaganda. NO ONE HAS DIED OF ANY COVID-19, THERE ISN'T EVEN A REAL TEST FOR IT. TESTS ARE 80% FALSE POSITIVES, TOTALLY WORTHLESS. VIRUSES ARE NOT ALIVE< THEY ARE RNA PROTEINS, YOU CANNOT "KILL" A VIRUS, IT'S ALL A BIG PHARMA SCAM!

Corona is obviously a made up hoax to trick the public into forced vaccinations and a "covid-19" nazi surveillance state..

Anyone with a normal sniffle or allergy is being added to the covid-19 tallies.

Biggest medical fraud ever.
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You people truly are deluded...
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But deaths from heart attack, stroke, pneumonia and good ol' regular flu are DOWN.

So are the Corona numbers even accurate?
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I can offer a reason but it's just a hunch, the elderly and infirm/underlying health conditions are definitely more vulnerable so they would have died at some point from (insert health condition here) but the CV-19 Hastened the end.
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or they died from their original disease and as per the office of national statistics new guidelines, if there is mention of corona on the death certificate even if its not the main cause of death it will be counted as a corona death.
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You know nuffink
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clappa

well done shit stain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460564


Huh, not nice, not nice at all..

Show me/point me to a source that you are using to substantiate your claim

thanks
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just read this [link to www.ons.gov.uk (secure)]
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I've had a look at the graphs and see the stats that are influencing your opinion. I'd like to remind you that the flu season is over, therefore ones bound to see a reduction in flu deaths from previous weeks. Also the argument that it's 'just flu' doesn't hold water as the CV-19 is a confirmed Novel virus and not the same as 'regular flu'. They can both have the same outcome but one can be more lethal than the other.

Here's an example for you.

'Regular' flu season kills the same 'category' of person as the CV-19 and for exactly the same reasons, ARDS, So someone is classed as being killed by flu when in fact they had an underlying condition which exacerbates their demise.

And....the virus itself (be it wu-flu or regular flu) isn't what kills you directly, it's the reactions of your own body that kills you.

Are you aware that it's not in the best interest of a virus to kill its host?
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But deaths from heart attack, stroke, pneumonia and good ol' regular flu are DOWN.

So are the Corona numbers even accurate?
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I can offer a reason but it's just a hunch, the elderly and infirm/underlying health conditions are definitely more vulnerable so they would have died at some point from (insert health condition here) but the CV-19 Hastened the end.
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or they died from their original disease and as per the office of national statistics new guidelines, if there is mention of corona on the death certificate even if its not the main cause of death it will be counted as a corona death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460564


In same ways I can't argue with your logic but it all falls back to how you percieve the virus and its danger. I see it as being contagious and dangerous therefore best practice is isolate and control. But personally I can see us being on and off with the quarantine for quite a while yet.

If you think its regular flu then that's your choice.
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clappa

well done shit stain.
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Huh, not nice, not nice at all..

Show me/point me to a source that you are using to substantiate your claim

thanks
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just read this [link to www.ons.gov.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460564


I've had a look at the graphs and see the stats that are influencing your opinion. I'd like to remind you that the flu season is over, therefore ones bound to see a reduction in flu deaths from previous weeks. Also the argument that it's 'just flu' doesn't hold water as the CV-19 is a confirmed Novel virus and not the same as 'regular flu'. They can both have the same outcome but one can be more lethal than the other.

Here's an example for you.

'Regular' flu season kills the same 'category' of person as the CV-19 and for exactly the same reasons, ARDS, So someone is classed as being killed by flu when in fact they had an underlying condition which exacerbates their demise.

And....the virus itself (be it wu-flu or regular flu) isn't what kills you directly, it's the reactions of your own body that kills you.

Are you aware that it's not in the best interest of a virus to kill its host?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78730225


1 a test for covid19 does not exist, only pcr for generic corna, therefore no one has been tested for 2019-nCOVID
2 corona is the flu, therefore this is the flu season
3 SARS is corona
4 ONS are stating they are treating all deaths as corona.
5 SARS Was less lethal than the 'regular flu'
6 SARS 2 (Covid-19) will be less lethal than the 'regular flu'
7 WUFLU / COVID-19 interferes with red blood cell oxygen transportation, therefore its not a cytokene storm that kills you, but instead being placed on a lung breaking ventilation pressure instead of simply elevated o2.
8 i could go on...
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OP u jnust a tard anti trumper libtuuurd u coudl never comphrehend the sexual power of trump he is king of all kings
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how do i edit my post i meant to put supreme power not sexual wtf
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But deaths from heart attack, stroke, pneumonia and good ol' regular flu are DOWN.

So are the Corona numbers even accurate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77901425


I can offer a reason but it's just a hunch, the elderly and infirm/underlying health conditions are definitely more vulnerable so they would have died at some point from (insert health condition here) but the CV-19 Hastened the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78730225


or they died from their original disease and as per the office of national statistics new guidelines, if there is mention of corona on the death certificate even if its not the main cause of death it will be counted as a corona death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460564


In same ways I can't argue with your logic but it all falls back to how you percieve the virus and its danger. I see it as being contagious and dangerous therefore best practice is isolate and control. But personally I can see us being on and off with the quarantine for quite a while yet.

If you think its regular flu then that's your choice.
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look at the stats. even with corona, the deaths are still lower than yearly average.

now consider why is there up to a 60 drop in admission for EVERY other health concern.

Emergency rooms are empty. Heart attacks are down 60 in the US 40 % in spain.
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Yeah sure...nice MSM fake tallies and big pharma propaganda. NO ONE HAS DIED OF ANY COVID-19, THERE ISN'T EVEN A REAL TEST FOR IT. TESTS ARE 80% FALSE POSITIVES, TOTALLY WORTHLESS. VIRUSES ARE NOT ALIVE< THEY ARE RNA PROTEINS, YOU CANNOT "KILL" A VIRUS, IT'S ALL A BIG PHARMA SCAM!

Corona is obviously a made up hoax to trick the public into forced vaccinations and a "covid-19" nazi surveillance state..

Anyone with a normal sniffle or allergy is being added to the covid-19 tallies.

Biggest medical fraud ever.
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You people truly are deluded...
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OP u jnust a tard anti trumper libtuuurd u coudl never comphrehend the sexual power of trump he is king of all kings
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First I voted for Trump as he had me fooled in the beginning. Second I’m not a Libtard and have never voted Democrat. Third you cultist behave just like Libtards which is quite ironic. Forth Trump is a Trojan Horse who is controlled just like all the others since JFK...

Here is your king who is leading you to the slaughter:
king trump
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"Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to "die before you die" - and find that there is no death."

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Yeah sure...nice MSM fake tallies and big pharma propaganda. NO ONE HAS DIED OF ANY COVID-19, THERE ISN'T EVEN A REAL TEST FOR IT. TESTS ARE 80% FALSE POSITIVES, TOTALLY WORTHLESS. VIRUSES ARE NOT ALIVE< THEY ARE RNA PROTEINS, YOU CANNOT "KILL" A VIRUS, IT'S ALL A BIG PHARMA SCAM!

Corona is obviously a made up hoax to trick the public into forced vaccinations and a "covid-19" nazi surveillance state..

Anyone with a normal sniffle or allergy is being added to the covid-19 tallies.

Biggest medical fraud ever.
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You people truly are deluded...
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chuckle
Time to delete your account
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^

See that right there is Libtard behavior. You cultist deflect, attack, and try to silence those you disagree with...
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~ Terence McKenna

"Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to "die before you die" - and find that there is no death."

~ Eckhart Tolle
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Huh, not nice, not nice at all..

Show me/point me to a source that you are using to substantiate your claim

thanks
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just read this [link to www.ons.gov.uk (secure)]
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I've had a look at the graphs and see the stats that are influencing your opinion. I'd like to remind you that the flu season is over, therefore ones bound to see a reduction in flu deaths from previous weeks. Also the argument that it's 'just flu' doesn't hold water as the CV-19 is a confirmed Novel virus and not the same as 'regular flu'. They can both have the same outcome but one can be more lethal than the other.

Here's an example for you.

'Regular' flu season kills the same 'category' of person as the CV-19 and for exactly the same reasons, ARDS, So someone is classed as being killed by flu when in fact they had an underlying condition which exacerbates their demise.

And....the virus itself (be it wu-flu or regular flu) isn't what kills you directly, it's the reactions of your own body that kills you.

Are you aware that it's not in the best interest of a virus to kill its host?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78730225


1 a test for covid19 does not exist, only pcr for generic corna, therefore no one has been tested for 2019-nCOVID
2 corona is the flu, therefore this is the flu season
3 SARS is corona
4 ONS are stating they are treating all deaths as corona.
5 SARS Was less lethal than the 'regular flu'
6 SARS 2 (Covid-19) will be less lethal than the 'regular flu'
7 WUFLU / COVID-19 interferes with red blood cell oxygen transportation, therefore its not a cytokene storm that kills you, but instead being placed on a lung breaking ventilation pressure instead of simply elevated o2.
8 i could go on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460564




1)You say no test available, so does that mean the Novel virus doesn't exist? You see if it was a known virus there would be a test?

2)Corona is a coverall, the specific virus was named CV-19 and its new to science and medicine. You know as well as I do the UK flu season is over at this time of year.

3) Sars is corona...yeah they are of the same family but you are being too generic.

4)ONS state they are treating a death as CV related if they see the CV symptoms etc I understand your argument but have a different perception.

5)SARS less lethal than reg flu, well again that may be true in some ways but has no relevance to a novel virus even of the same family.

6) Sars 2 less lethal than regular flu? I haven't got the patience but if you look at a person with ARDS on average they have a 50/50 chance of recovery from an ICU, but with the CV it looks like the average is 80% chance of death.

7)I've read that too, it's certainly a possibility, so we have to agree that it's too early to tell with this NEW VIRUS.

8) Go on if you want, i've got an hour
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how do i edit my post i meant to put supreme power not sexual wtf
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I've had a look at the graphs and see the stats that are influencing your opinion. I'd like to remind you that the flu season is over, therefore ones bound to see a reduction in flu deaths from previous weeks. Also the argument that it's 'just flu' doesn't hold water as the CV-19 is a confirmed Novel virus and not the same as 'regular flu'. They can both have the same outcome but one can be more lethal than the other.

Here's an example for you.

'Regular' flu season kills the same 'category' of person as the CV-19 and for exactly the same reasons, ARDS, So someone is classed as being killed by flu when in fact they had an underlying condition which exacerbates their demise.

And....the virus itself (be it wu-flu or regular flu) isn't what kills you directly, it's the reactions of your own body that kills you.

Are you aware that it's not in the best interest of a virus to kill its host?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78730225


1 a test for covid19 does not exist, only pcr for generic corna, therefore no one has been tested for 2019-nCOVID
2 corona is the flu, therefore this is the flu season
3 SARS is corona
4 ONS are stating they are treating all deaths as corona.
5 SARS Was less lethal than the 'regular flu'
6 SARS 2 (Covid-19) will be less lethal than the 'regular flu'
7 WUFLU / COVID-19 interferes with red blood cell oxygen transportation, therefore its not a cytokene storm that kills you, but instead being placed on a lung breaking ventilation pressure instead of simply elevated o2.
8 i could go on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73460564




1)You say no test available, so does that mean the Novel virus doesn't exist? You see if it was a known virus there would be a test?

2)Corona is a coverall, the specific virus was named CV-19 and its new to science and medicine. You know as well as I do the UK flu season is over at this time of year.

3) Sars is corona...yeah they are of the same family but you are being too generic.

4)ONS state they are treating a death as CV related if they see the CV symptoms etc I understand your argument but have a different perception.

5)SARS less lethal than reg flu, well again that may be true in some ways but has no relevance to a novel virus even of the same family.

6) Sars 2 less lethal than regular flu? I haven't got the patience but if you look at a person with ARDS on average they have a 50/50 chance of recovery from an ICU, but with the CV it looks like the average is 80% chance of death. -

7)I've read that too, it's certainly a possibility, so we have to agree that it's too early to tell with this NEW VIRUS.

8) Go on if you want, i've got an hour
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Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths are those deaths registered in England and Wales in the stated week where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate as “deaths involving COVID-19”. A doctor can certify the involvement of COVID-19 based on symptoms and clinical findings – a positive test result is not required.

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look at that chart. notice the influenza and pneumonia mentions rising exactly at week 12 the same trend as corona.
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'Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths
Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths are those deaths registered in England and Wales in the stated week where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate as “deaths involving COVID-19”. A doctor can certify the involvement of COVID-19 based on symptoms and clinical findings – a positive test result is not required.'



I don't understand your argument?

I said that deaths would be classed as CV when the underlying health condition was a contributory factor. I'm aware that a test does not exist as yet that would be classed as totally reliable. Sometimes clinical judgement is used to say....

THis old chap had a dodgy ticker, he was at deaths door but may have lived 6 months if he hadn't contracted this virus.

It's still the virus that has brought forward his death. So he was killed by CV-19. That's why so many deaths are among the elderly.





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