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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73841345 United States 04/12/2020 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know without a doubt that Jesus arose from the dead. Why? Because he took away all of my guilt, he has healed my back, he has healed my mind. I have power over the demons in His name. They must flee when you bind them up and in the name of Jesus command them to leave. But best of all He sent His Holy Spirit to live on the inside of me. You must be born again and when you are the Holy Spirit will come and reside inside of you. Nothing like it OP. I am in perfect peace on corona virus. I am not scared at all. Psalm 91 protects me. I hope you repent of your sins if you haven't already and ask Him to save you and come make His home inside of you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996452 United States 04/12/2020 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know without a doubt that Jesus arose from the dead. Why? Because he took away all of my guilt, he has healed my back, he has healed my mind. I have power over the demons in His name. They must flee when you bind them up and in the name of Jesus command them to leave. But best of all He sent His Holy Spirit to live on the inside of me. You must be born again and when you are the Holy Spirit will come and reside inside of you. Nothing like it OP. I am in perfect peace on corona virus. I am not scared at all. Psalm 91 protects me. I hope you repent of your sins if you haven't already and ask Him to save you and come make His home inside of you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73841345 Yea right, you probably work some job the devil is pleased with so he quit inflecting pain on you. This satans world and you're obviously working for him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78709678 United States 04/12/2020 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. I'll bite cause I'm bored. In the question of faith , do we not have faith that what we see with our eyes is even the same as one another or absolute basis of reality?I Historians never agree on anything. Matthew Mark Luke and John are suspiciously Anglo names for events that took place in thematically desert regions of the middle east. All good stories are kegends, that does not make them any less legendary. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76922216 United States 04/12/2020 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. Paul saw Jesus and no one debates that he didn't write the books he wrote. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71242045 United States 04/12/2020 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know without a doubt that Jesus arose from the dead. Why? Because he took away all of my guilt, he has healed my back, he has healed my mind. I have power over the demons in His name. They must flee when you bind them up and in the name of Jesus command them to leave. But best of all He sent His Holy Spirit to live on the inside of me. You must be born again and when you are the Holy Spirit will come and reside inside of you. Nothing like it OP. I am in perfect peace on corona virus. I am not scared at all. Psalm 91 protects me. I hope you repent of your sins if you haven't already and ask Him to save you and come make His home inside of you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73841345 You claim healing yet why doesn’t God heal amputees or kids with Down syndrome? I think it God is likely more of a placebo effect for you. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71242045 United States 04/12/2020 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. Paul saw Jesus and no one debates that he didn't write the books he wrote. Paul never claimed to see Jesus before or during the resurrection. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76894912 United States 04/12/2020 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. So where's the body? We have all the disciples bodies and mummies from 5,000 years ago so this shouldn't be a problem to produce if he did not rise. It is on YOU to prove. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71242045 United States 04/12/2020 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. So where's the body? We have all the disciples bodies and mummies from 5,000 years ago so this shouldn't be a problem to produce if he did not rise. It is on YOU to prove. That’s nonsense. We don’t have any bodies or even know for sure that those people really existed. |
Furrry Pete User ID: 78781767 United States 04/12/2020 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know before by faith, and you know without a doubt after when you resurrect with Him, those with ears to hear hear "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76818441 United States 04/12/2020 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. Tell me more about the historians that don't accept the consensus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76894912 United States 04/12/2020 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. So where's the body? We have all the disciples bodies and mummies from 5,000 years ago so this shouldn't be a problem to produce if he did not rise. It is on YOU to prove. That’s nonsense. We don’t have any bodies or even know for sure that those people really existed. Wow can't argue with ignorance. Do some research instead of typing words of a fool. Here are the burial places of a few of them: St. Philip Martyrium in Hierapolis, Turkey St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome Basilica of St. Andrew in Patras, Greece Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela in Spain (James) Basilica of St. John the Apostle in Ephesus, Turkey Santhome Basilica in Chennai, India (Thomas) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71242045 United States 04/12/2020 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new testament was written about 400 years after the resurrection. Most of the Catholic new testament was written by Paul. And of course there is no proof that it ever happened. It is believed on faith, as proof that Jesus was who he said he was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78705538 How is faith proof? And is it possible you’re wrong? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78669752 United States 04/12/2020 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Holy Spirit convicts or reveals us the truth. Christ lives in my soul, he is alpha and omega. When I see evidence of God working in my life, the Holy Spirit reminds me of scripture I have in my heart about the teachings of Jesus. You must be born again to know the mysteries of the kingdom. Many people witnessed Jesus raise a couple people back to life and their thoughts were impure, that Jesus worked miracles by the power of satan. Jesus and God are eternal, they wrote the end from the beginning. Either you will believe or you won't. It's not up to you, it's up to the powers that rank above you that precise your choice to believe or not. Jesus taught the wind can be felt but not seen, likewise with God. We can feel His presence but we cannot see Him. All in all I encourage you to seek, for you will find, knock and it will be opened, ask and it will be given. You need to move past the power of your mind rationalizing truth and error and simply pray to God in Jesus name that He would reveal to you the power of the resurrection. Convince God you are valid and earnestly wanting to know. Nicodemus sought Jesus and received answers that fueled his conviction for discovering the truth about the Messiah. OP, good thread. We need more people like you in the world. Skeptical, but seeking. Let the truth in son, I have faith in you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78787129 United States 04/12/2020 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. The bible is pretty clear in both the old and new testament... [link to bible.knowing-jesus.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71700611 United States 04/12/2020 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bible tells us that faith comes from hearing the Word. So go try it. I would like to think reading it with your eyes is akin to hearing with your ears since we have the written Bible these days. There are free Bible apps so not having a Bible in book form is not an excuse. Try reading the entire Gospel of John. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78787129 United States 04/12/2020 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And Job -- the oldest book in the bible: Job 19:25-26: "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God." All Glory to God! Amen!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78669752 United States 04/12/2020 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know before by faith, and you know without a doubt after when you resurrect with Him, those with ears to hear hear Quoting: Furrry Pete How do you ‘know by faith’? Isn’t faith just believing something without evidence? Faith in the bible is believing in the evidence of things unseen. There are sons of satan and sons of God. God knew us before we were born. The work was finished at the cross. We are living in a farmer's field. There are weeds, and there is a harvest. Which will you be? By the measure you give is the measure you receive. If you judge Jesus as false, who alone has life itself, you receive death. That's as simple as I can put it. Read my long above reply. You're going to have to make a choice to surrender to Christ or not. He is knocking on your door asking you to share a meal. How can we, mortals, understand an immortal, eternal, infinite God and Son and Spirit? Faith. Conviction that there is some tenacity and reality to the existence of God. Mans reasoning is not enough to know God, you have to allow Him to reveal Himself to you. He will if you let Him. The best part? Eternal life. Hard offer to pass up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78785263 United States 04/12/2020 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I had video proof would you believe? Do you believe every video? At some point everything we believe is by faith Quoting: acinnc 77856080 For such a bold claim, I think we should need more evidence than stories from 2000 years ago that we don’t know who wrote them. God isn't real? Multi-MILLIONS of folks would beg to differ with your claim. Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start... Thread: Testimonies of Miracles Angels etc...proof of God / Yahuah & Son Jesus / Yeshua God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua. The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind. NOTHING you say will change these facts. In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible. Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist. Here's a 191 page free PDF of Biblical Archaeological finds. [link to www.israelite.net] Evidence for the Exodus and Sodom & Gomorrah Thread: Updated - New Videos / Evidence of the Biblical Exodus in Saudi Arabia - Hebrews / Mt Sinai More Thread: Sodom Gomorrah Admah - Video & Photographic Evidence of Biblical Destruction Brimstone God isn't real? Multi-MILLIONS of folks would beg to differ with your claim. Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start... Thread: Testimonies of Miracles Angels etc...proof of God / Yahuah & Son Jesus / Yeshua |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77030693 United States 04/12/2020 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know for a fact that Jesus rose from the dead, or do you just choose to have faith that he did? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 Historians seem to agree that the earliest gospels weren’t written until at least 20 years after the supposed resurrection....and most agree that they were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We don’t know who wrote them, even the bible has footnotes that state that. How do you know it’s not just a legend that grew through word of mouth for 20 years before being written down? Seems more plausible to me. 3 Nephi Chapter 11: 6 And behold, the third time they did understand the voice which they heard; and it said unto them: 7 Behold my Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased, in whom I have glorified my name—hear ye him. 8 And it came to pass, as they understood they cast their eyes up again towards heaven; and behold, they saw a Man descending out of heaven; and he was clothed in a white robe; and he came down and stood in the midst of them; and the eyes of the whole multitude were turned upon him, and they durst not open their mouths, even one to another, and wist not what it meant, for they thought it was an angel that had appeared unto them. 9 And it came to pass that he stretched forth his hand and spake unto the people, saying: 10 Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world. 11 And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning. 12 And it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words the whole multitude fell to the earth; for they remembered that it had been prophesied among them that Christ should show himself unto them after his ascension into heaven. 13 And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto them saying: 14 Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may thrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the God of Israel, and the God of the whole earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world. 15 And it came to pass that the multitude went forth, and thrust their hands into his side, and did feel the prints of the nails in his hands and in his feet; and this they did do, going forth one by one until they had all gone forth, and did see with their eyes and did feel with their hands, and did know of a surety and did bear record, that it was he, of whom it was written by the prophets, that should come. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78669752 United States 04/12/2020 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like someone else said, read the gospel of John. Mark is shorter but packed. When I was lost I heard the voice of God tell me to read His Word in 2007. Read the gospel of John all the way through and surrendered my life to Christ and God. It's like being blind then seeing for the first time. Best decision you could ever make. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78785263 United States 04/12/2020 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new testament was written about 400 years after the resurrection. Most of the Catholic new testament was written by Paul. And of course there is no proof that it ever happened. It is believed on faith, as proof that Jesus was who he said he was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78705538 "400 years"? That argument holds NO water. Even IF we didn't have manuscript fragments dating back to the 2nd century, scholars could "piece together" the 4 Gospels just from the writings of various church fathers. ---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke. ---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels. ---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels. On TOP of that, there is a growing consensus that the first writings of the Gospels were in Hebrew & Aramaic. Thread: Bible Languages History - Hebraisms in the New Testament Times of Jesus Thread: Hebrews Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrews |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71242045 United States 04/12/2020 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like someone else said, read the gospel of John. Mark is shorter but packed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78669752 When I was lost I heard the voice of God tell me to read His Word in 2007. Read the gospel of John all the way through and surrendered my life to Christ and God. It's like being blind then seeing for the first time. Best decision you could ever make. You heard a real audible voice? |