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Question for Anti~Vaxers:

 
Radaghast
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Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Is supporting the use of chloroquine not akin to a vaccination?
It's untested against covid, can cause big problems in certain patients.

Honestly it seems to me as though you're all for it because Trump said it's o.k.

But its risks mirror the exact thing that you are concerned about with Vaccinations.

The "What if" factor doesn't apply when dear leader gives the green light?

Seems contradictory to support the use of chloroquine, yet fight people over the use of vaccines...

Last Edited by Radaghast on 04/15/2020 04:14 PM
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydro color Queen is a chemical.

Vaccines have deadly ingredients.

Your premise does merit validation.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydro color Queen is a chemical.

Vaccines have deadly ingredients.

Your premise does merit validation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


That's plain idiotic.

They're both medicines to treat a medical problem.

The one star means you have no answer and that you're in denial about your beliefs.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydro color Queen is a chemical.

Vaccines have deadly ingredients.

Your premise does merit validation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


That's plain idiotic.

They're both medicines to treat a medical problem.

The one star means you have no answer and that you're in denial about your beliefs.
 Quoting: Radaghast


I didn't give you any stars.

My answer was quite apparent.

You assume vaccines are a noble cause. They are not.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydro color Queen is a chemical.

Vaccines have deadly ingredients.

Your premise does merit validation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


That's plain idiotic.

They're both medicines to treat a medical problem.

The one star means you have no answer and that you're in denial about your beliefs.
 Quoting: Radaghast


I didn't give you any stars.

My answer was quite apparent.

You assume vaccines are a noble cause. They are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


And you're saying that chloroquine is adequate even though it hasn't fully been tested and has adverse effects.
My argument is solid, just waiting for a valid, intelligent reply.

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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
It's not phosphoric you idiot
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydro color Queen is a chemical.

Vaccines have deadly ingredients.

Your premise does merit validation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


That's plain idiotic.

They're both medicines to treat a medical problem.

The one star means you have no answer and that you're in denial about your beliefs.
 Quoting: Radaghast


I didn't give you any stars.

My answer was quite apparent.

You assume vaccines are a noble cause. They are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


And you're saying that chloroquine phosphate is adequate even though it hasn't fully been tested and has adverse effects.
My argument is solid, just waiting for a valid, intelligent reply.
 Quoting: Radaghast


I am not saying it is adequate.

I did say your OP had some validity.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
I'm not scared of a good vaccine, I think they are great but.. Stuff like in the link and the fillers they add scare me.

[link to www.vox.com (secure)]
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
It's not phosphoric you idiot
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Fair enough, I'll change it to chloroquine.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


Example: Squalene is produced naturally in the body. But if injected into the body, the immune system sees it as a foreign threat, and begins to attacks it.. even the stuff the body makes. Cytokine storm. The body attacking itself.

Something taken by mouth goes through the entire digestive system.

There is no comparison. and hcq has been around for years with no problems. Only problem is nobody can get rich of it!
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
 Quoting: Radaghast


cruise

You're an idiot, and a bullshitting troll!
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
 Quoting: Radaghast


cruise

You're an idiot, and a bullshitting troll!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


Even a Brit figured it out!!! lol

Sorry Brit.. couldn't resist. 5a
J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil. vs20: Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word."

"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians chap 3, verse 29

"The first time I saw Billy, he came walking out of a cloud." McMurtry

Bring Back The DRAFT!!
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
 Quoting: Radaghast


cruise

You're an idiot, and a bullshitting troll!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


I'm merely pointing out that your support for dear leaders "fix" contradicts your concerns with vaccines. Is that so hard to fathom without frothing at the mouth?
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
 Quoting: Radaghast


cruise

You're an idiot, and a bullshitting troll!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


I'm merely pointing out that your support for dear leaders "fix" contradicts your concerns with vaccines. Is that so hard to fathom without frothing at the mouth?
 Quoting: Radaghast


Valid.

Now what about those who don't support slave owners and still view vaccines as a mass money/death grab?
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Can't we just all agree that the COVID death numbers are a complete fabrication at this point?

The one thing we do know, is even with inflated numbers, COVID19 is a nothinburger compared to the regular flu.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
The most prevalent argument anti~vaxers have is:

What are the long term effects? Why should I endanger myself to something that might have bad (lethal) side effects?

-Yet I see no push back from the anti-vax crowd here concerning this chloroquine stuff.

It's because Trump thinks it's good, isn't it?
So apparently that's good enough for you...

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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
I hate both, but if no other way to heal from any illness, I choose ingesting. Why? We eat bad stuff for millions of years, but most of the time survive, because our body got used to it, and is ready to fight it. We are not ready to fight anything injected, because it just started a few decades ago.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
The prudent thing to do is individual choice. For those who are vaccinated, why do you care if someone is unvaccinated? They cant hurt you or your other vaccinated pals.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Vaccines made with MRC-5 and WI-38 cell lines are the problem with many religious exceptions.

Taking part in the Murder, theft, and desecration of a baby will prevent your salvation.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydro color Queen is a chemical.

Vaccines have deadly ingredients.

Your premise does merit validation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


That's plain idiotic.

They're both medicines to treat a medical problem.

The one star means you have no answer and that you're in denial about your beliefs.
 Quoting: Radaghast


I didn't give you any stars.

My answer was quite apparent.

You assume vaccines are a noble cause. They are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


And you're saying that chloroquine is adequate even though it hasn't fully been tested and has adverse effects.
My argument is solid, just waiting for a valid, intelligent reply.
 Quoting: Radaghast


All replies are valid.
You are a TOOL.
We all know it.
Shut the f+ck up.
You sad excuse for a pile of carbon.

It is about the people who which to vaccinate us.
It is about the track record of these vaccines and the huge rise in all sorts of neurological disorders and more.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
If someone is sick from a virus, then it is their responsibility to make the decision to take a drug to cure themselves since they don't know how to be responsible enough to stay healthy with a strong immune system.

The idea we all need to have a vaccine injection and chip implant simply because people in south Africa have bad hygiene is out in left field bitch.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn't cause autism.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
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That's plain idiotic.

They're both medicines to treat a medical problem.

The one star means you have no answer and that you're in denial about your beliefs.
 Quoting: Radaghast


I didn't give you any stars.

My answer was quite apparent.

You assume vaccines are a noble cause. They are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


And you're saying that chloroquine is adequate even though it hasn't fully been tested and has adverse effects.
My argument is solid, just waiting for a valid, intelligent reply.
 Quoting: Radaghast


All replies are valid.
You are a TOOL.
We all know it.
Shut the f+ck up.
You sad excuse for a pile of carbon.

It is about the people who which to vaccinate us.
It is about the track record of these vaccines and the huge rise in all sorts of neurological disorders and more.
 Quoting: Plebs all around 78378688


But taking something that has been unproven just because you guzzle orange merp is legit.

You're too dumb to grasp the fact that your love of a politician rivals your basic beliefs regarding vaccines.

I think that's interesting and shows how much of a sheep you really are.

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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
Hydro color Queen is a chemical.

Vaccines have deadly ingredients.

Your premise does merit validation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78542393


That's plain idiotic.

They're both medicines to treat a medical problem.

The one star means you have no answer and that you're in denial about your beliefs.
 Quoting: Radaghast


Since when the fuck has MERCURY been a medicine?
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
 Quoting: Radaghast


No, the effect won't be the same.

Try drinking vodka
Try injecting vodka straight into bloodstream and see what happens.

Try injecting insulin into bloodstream vs subcutaneous and see what happens.

Try again...
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
 Quoting: Radaghast


No, the effect won't be the same.

Try drinking vodka
Try injecting vodka straight into bloodstream and see what happens.

Try injecting insulin into bloodstream vs subcutaneous and see what happens.

Try again...
 Quoting: Sol Neman



Sure :)

Edible vaccines:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

So if a vaccine is edible then you have no problem with vaccines..?

I think I know what's going on here..It's the needle part of the vaccine. That's it, right?

Next:
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
You're comparing apples to oranges.

Injections are far different than taking something by mouth. Injections bypass the bodies defenses.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


No they don't.

Try eating battery acid.
Try injecting battery acid.

The effect will be the same.

Sorry, your answer doesn't cut it.
 Quoting: Radaghast


cruise

You're an idiot, and a bullshitting troll!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


I'm merely pointing out that your support for dear leaders "fix" contradicts your concerns with vaccines. Is that so hard to fathom without frothing at the mouth?
 Quoting: Radaghast


Why do you think hydrocloroquine treatments was discovered by Trump?
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
it doesnt cause any problems

see Doctors interview on Laura Ingraham's show from 2 nights ago.

1000 patients treated with Hydroxychloroquine not one problem.
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Re: Question for Anti~Vaxers:
it doesnt cause any problems

see Doctors interview on Laura Ingraham's show from 2 nights ago.

1000 patients treated with Hydroxychloroquine not one problem.
 Quoting: Jake


Quite a few reports of negative issues arising today. Especially people with heart problems.

I'd honestly think that the anti vaxers would be cautious about it, but apparently their love for Trump transcends their deepest beliefs in the matters of medicine.
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