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:KIMYOJUNG:
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She may be quite the force to be reckoned with. Those eyes are easy to read.
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She is in charge of the Interior Ministry and Secret Police. She is more fracking crazy and totally a cold blooded killer.

She is the one that came up with the ideas to kill their uncle being fed to the Tigers and shooting other high ranking purged members with AA guns. Bitch is bat shit more evil than Stalin.
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Kim faking his death.
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Let me pose a question - How EXACTLY do you think a negotiation would go between Trump and the sister?

Personally I think not well. Trump took the White House version of the Dennis Rodman strategy. That entire relationship is now completely toast. Relations with NK start from scratch possibly in this scenario, and she is much smarter than her brother.

This isn’t good for the world possibly.
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Kim faking his death.
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I always got the feeling that Kim never wanted to rule, he just unfortunately had to. This is a good excuse to defect, if your scenario is in fact in play.
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4. KIM DEFECTED TO US, faked his death to do so.
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The only hopeful possible outcome angle I have been able to think of right here. Anything else is no good at all.
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All bets are off. Kim has died, or is unable to function, possibly due to a Chinese doctor or a slip of the hand? Have you guys really thought about what this means geopolitically?

There was no Trump briefing today not because he said a few stupid things, but because there is a major power grab about to happen in North Korea, and it is NOT good. He is probably in the situation room speaking with other world leaders/allies in the region.

This could be that April 26th thing we were warned about, or the start of it.

The possible plays could be -

1. Kim’s cute sister takes over. The Red Dragon decides to go on a war footing, which eventually escalated to an attack by the Norks to instigate conflict in the SCS. Which ultimately means the United States comes to aid the south, and Taiwan. (You see where that goes)

2. Kim was assassinated by China. Either by a simple slip of the and or a mistake. The North is not happy, and are currently planning war operations against China, which could lead to a spilling into SK. You see where that goes.

3. Kim actually had a problem and was sick, the surgeries genuinely did not work and now China will use this as an excuse to install a Puppet government, economic upheaval and all into the North, while the North is their proxy for war or attacks.

I can’t think of anything else, but something wicked this way comes. The whole world theater just destabilized. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
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4. You’re watching a luciferian play and they’re all actors. Including Trumpty.
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5. You're ^^^ a Leftist shitbag and have been watching too much CNN.
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Motherfuckers, I am going to turn your shit for brains world upside down, and then shake the crap out of it before I fix it up.
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Who the F are you?

King demon?
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I'm starting to see parallels between the family and the Corleones.

Kim Jong Il was Vito Corleone, who died, leaving behind the question of who would be his successor

Kim Jong Chul is like Fredo, passed over in succession and seen as the black sheep of the family

Kim Jong Un is Sonny, trying to fill the shoes of his father, and not being able to handle the responsibility

Kim Yo-Jong is Michael, the real brains of the family, and successor of Vito. Something about her makes me think she's the one we should be worried about.
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All bets are off. Kim has died, or is unable to function, possibly due to a Chinese doctor or a slip of the hand? Have you guys really thought about what this means geopolitically?

There was no Trump briefing today not because he said a few stupid things, but because there is a major power grab about to happen in North Korea, and it is NOT good. He is probably in the situation room speaking with other world leaders/allies in the region.

This could be that April 26th thing we were warned about, or the start of it.

The possible plays could be -

1. Kim’s cute sister takes over. The Red Dragon decides to go on a war footing, which eventually escalated to an attack by the Norks to instigate conflict in the SCS. Which ultimately means the United States comes to aid the south, and Taiwan. (You see where that goes)

2. Kim was assassinated by China. Either by a simple slip of the hand or a mistake. The North is not happy, and are currently planning war operations against China, which could lead to a spilling into SK. You see where that goes.

3. Kim actually had a problem and was sick, the surgeries genuinely did not work and now China will use this as an excuse to install a Puppet government, economic upheaval and all into the North, while the North is their proxy for war or attacks.

I can’t think of anything else, but something wicked this way comes. The whole world theater just destabilized. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
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4. Did he even die?
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Let me pose a question - How EXACTLY do you think a negotiation would go between Trump and the sister?

Personally I think not well. Trump took the White House version of the Dennis Rodman strategy. That entire relationship is now completely toast. Relations with NK start from scratch possibly in this scenario, and she is much smarter than her brother.

This isn’t good for the world possibly.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Something about her makes me think she's the one who is pulling the strings.
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All bets are off. Kim has died, or is unable to function, possibly due to a Chinese doctor or a slip of the hand? Have you guys really thought about what this means geopolitically?

There was no Trump briefing today not because he said a few stupid things, but because there is a major power grab about to happen in North Korea, and it is NOT good. He is probably in the situation room speaking with other world leaders/allies in the region.

This could be that April 26th thing we were warned about, or the start of it.

The possible plays could be -

1. Kim’s cute sister takes over. The Red Dragon decides to go on a war footing, which eventually escalated to an attack by the Norks to instigate conflict in the SCS. Which ultimately means the United States comes to aid the south, and Taiwan. (You see where that goes)

2. Kim was assassinated by China. Either by a simple slip of the hand or a mistake. The North is not happy, and are currently planning war operations against China, which could lead to a spilling into SK. You see where that goes.

3. Kim actually had a problem and was sick, the surgeries genuinely did not work and now China will use this as an excuse to install a Puppet government, economic upheaval and all into the North, while the North is their proxy for war or attacks.

I can’t think of anything else, but something wicked this way comes. The whole world theater just destabilized. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


or having the cute sister in there brings a feminine touch which leads to peace and the reunification of korea
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KIMYOJUNG
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Stealing this pic for this post---

Guys, this is north korea, if china wanted to take over

they would have done it...even with kim alive.

If he's dead, we have to think they have contingency plans too!

I don't think kims sister wants to let go of power.

I guess I could be wrong but, I think if he's dead then,

she is leader by default.

And she might a different one at that---we don't know...


Remember, she's a woman, and women love power......right?

Yeah, you know I'm right...



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Let me pose a question - How EXACTLY do you think a negotiation would go between Trump and the sister?

Personally I think not well. Trump took the White House version of the Dennis Rodman strategy. That entire relationship is now completely toast. Relations with NK start from scratch possibly in this scenario, and she is much smarter than her brother.

This isn’t good for the world possibly.
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Something about her makes me think she's the one who is pulling the strings.
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She has been positioned to do so. She is close with her brother, naturally she is part of his inner council at the very least. She was given a shit ton of responsibilities recently.
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he dead,
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Um, what about the US being the one who killed him?
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Thank-you for this someone else noticed and research as well. There are currently two viable girl candidates Kim Jo-Yong and her OLDER half sister Kim Sul-song. But with their ideologies a female will not be qualified to run, since they will not be able to pass the last name Kim on. But for argument sake lets say they are viable candidates, it will still never happen without a civil war, because if they were the only candidate this would be fine one of them would be regent or whatever. But there are Four males still active, lets start with the least possible of the four males Kim Yong-ju going way back he is the brother to the grandfather of Kim Jong-Un that started this whole mess brother (Kim Il-sung) basically younger brother to Kim Il-Sung. He was actually going to take over for Kim Il-Sung, but lost it to Kim Jong-il, be played aminor role after, and basically fell out of the lime light so to speak. He is the least likely to rule now because of his age being 99. Although he could try but highly unlikely. Next up is Kim Han-Sol this player will be who the West wants as number 1, unless they go with another pro west individual (Possibly Kim Jung-Chul but that is still unknowing though) this is the second least likely since he would bring radical change to North Korea and the generals more than likely may not like that.

Kim Jung-Un is his Half-Uncle and his father was Kim Jong-nam who was the rightful heir before falling out of grace by his father Kim Jong-il. So this has potential, but is an extreme long shot. Next up is Kim Jong-Chul imo this will be the West's second pick other than another player that is pro West. This person is the full OLDERbrother to Kim Jung-Un, and Half-Uncle to Han-Sol as well. He was passed over because his father Kim Jung-Il thought he was to pacifistic this is the one that likes Eric Clapton and plays in a band. I put Jung-Chul higher than Han-sol because imo he is more pro NK, because he at least still lives there, and never had anyone he cares about assassinated (Other than his Uncle by his brother, but that is another story not sure if he even cares about that). He might be seen though as pro reunification so some if not all generals might fear him in power. Now the final person, and imo who has the best chance here is one that I didn't know, and this changed everything for me, enter Kim Pyong-il half brother to Kim Jong-il he has experience in NK politics and his most dangerous weapon is he supposedly looks like his father, which jeopardized Kim Jung-il's kids so he was put out of the picture as an ambassador.

Interestingly enough he is seen as a threat by both SK and NK (I think NK just because he looked like the father and Jong-il saw that as a threat to his children, but since they are somewhat out of the picture he has the perfect chance to take the helm now). Although he is a wild card not much is known about his views, he is also somewhat old, but still at a good age being 65, This is the person I think has the best shot at succeeding for the generals preferences. As you can see there are way to many males in the picture for a female to win the slot. If you want my opinion it will be a civil war with generals picking a Kim side, with even the possibility of creating a whole new ruling family. The West will more than likely be brought in due to the weapons arsenal (Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical) also this will create a humanitarian catastrophe the likes the world has not seen in quite some time. And the possibility of creating a strong ally with Han-Sol or Jong-Chul and reunification of Korea. And undoubtedly this will of course bring in China. This civil war may even lead into WW3 who knows. But this will be a mess and make Iraq and Afghanistan look easy.
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The idea of Korean refugees spilling over Chinas borders is a nightmare for China on a normal day...China doesn't want that and especially in the middle of a pandemic. JMHO.
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All bets are off. Kim has died, or is unable to function, possibly due to a Chinese doctor or a slip of the hand? Have you guys really thought about what this means geopolitically?

There was no Trump briefing today not because he said a few stupid things, but because there is a major power grab about to happen in North Korea, and it is NOT good. He is probably in the situation room speaking with other world leaders/allies in the region.

This could be that April 26th thing we were warned about, or the start of it.

The possible plays could be -

1. Kim’s cute sister takes over. The Red Dragon decides to go on a war footing, which eventually escalated to an attack by the Norks to instigate conflict in the SCS. Which ultimately means the United States comes to aid the south, and Taiwan. (You see where that goes)

2. Kim was assassinated by China. Either by a simple slip of the hand or a mistake. The North is not happy, and are currently planning war operations against China, which could lead to a spilling into SK. You see where that goes.

3. Kim actually had a problem and was sick, the surgeries genuinely did not work and now China will use this as an excuse to install a Puppet government, economic upheaval and all into the North, while the North is their proxy for war or attacks.

I can’t think of anything else, but something wicked this way comes. The whole world theater just destabilized. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


hmm

Never crossed my mind about that being the reason for no briefing today. Trump did say something about what's the point with the lying media so I do think it was that.

If Kim Jung Un's sister is as crazy as he is, that's scary because female psychopaths are worse than the men because they're out to prove they're tough.

I can't see why NK would ever try to start a war with China. they're dependent upon them and would get their asses kicked.
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With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
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Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

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I think his sister will attempt to open NK to the rest of the world. She'll have to do it slowly as what the rest of the world is like will be a great shock.
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Nice positive thinking, I like it!

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Kim faking his death.
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I always got the feeling that Kim never wanted to rule, he just unfortunately had to. This is a good excuse to defect, if your scenario is in fact in play.
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Does he have children?
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And NONE of the TV news media, including Fox, have mentioned this AT ALL. Not even that these rumors (and it seems like it's more than rumors now) are out there.

What I frequently find most interesting about the "news" is what they DON'T REPORT.
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Kim faking his death.
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I always got the feeling that Kim never wanted to rule, he just unfortunately had to. This is a good excuse to defect, if your scenario is in fact in play.
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Does he have children?
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As far as we know one child female 8 years old. Never seen a pic or anything. No has really even seen her. So who knows.
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And NONE of the TV news media, including Fox, have mentioned this AT ALL. Not even that these rumors (and it seems like it's more than rumors now) are out there.

What I frequently find most interesting about the "news" is what they DON'T REPORT.
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It’s all speculation at this point. We are just trying to connect the dots and establish the most likely play taking place.
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Reports that Kim just sent a letter to workers in the north building a new city.

Could mean he is alive. Could kust be a red herring by his sister.
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All bets are off. Kim has died, or is unable to function, possibly due to a Chinese doctor or a slip of the hand? Have you guys really thought about what this means geopolitically?

There was no Trump briefing today not because he said a few stupid things, but because there is a major power grab about to happen in North Korea, and it is NOT good. He is probably in the situation room speaking with other world leaders/allies in the region.

This could be that April 26th thing we were warned about, or the start of it.

The possible plays could be -

1. Kim’s cute sister takes over. The Red Dragon decides to go on a war footing, which eventually escalated to an attack by the Norks to instigate conflict in the SCS. Which ultimately means the United States comes to aid the south, and Taiwan. (You see where that goes)

2. Kim was assassinated by China. Either by a simple slip of the hand or a mistake. The North is not happy, and are currently planning war operations against China, which could lead to a spilling into SK. You see where that goes.

3. Kim actually had a problem and was sick, the surgeries genuinely did not work and now China will use this as an excuse to install a Puppet government, economic upheaval and all into the North, while the North is their proxy for war or attacks.

I can’t think of anything else, but something wicked this way comes. The whole world theater just destabilized. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
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hmm

Never crossed my mind about that being the reason for no briefing today. Trump did say something about what's the point with the lying media so I do think it was that.

If Kim Jung Un's sister is as crazy as he is, that's scary because female psychopaths are worse than the men because they're out to prove they're tough.

I can't see why NK would ever try to start a war with China. they're dependent upon them and would get their asses kicked.
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My gut feeling is that Kim was assassinated for getting to close to the West - and Trump, of course. China's not too happy with Trump right now...or ever. I think Kim was seeing the possibilities of what NK life could be like if he opened up to the West. Red China was not going to allow that. I don't know anything about his sister, but if looks are anything to go on, she looks like ONE HARD CASE. I'm betting she's a Commie hard liner and is going to drag the country back into isolation and the Chinese sphere. Hope I'm wrong, but I think the only way to negotiate with that woman is with a shovel.
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I think his sister will attempt to open NK to the rest of the world. She'll have to do it slowly as what the rest of the world is like will be a great shock.
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That’s the theory in my back pocket. She will be a very “Liberal” leader that wants to associate with the world. It could lead to possible civil war and a coux. Though.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Dangerous time for her. I hope she is well protected. But the old guard in the NK is, well - very old.
SK should step up and make overtures to help her open up the NK society. She's going to need friends if she chooses that route. What the world really is like will be a huge emotional upheaval for many in NK.
At the Olympics, Ivanka seemed to try to befriend her. Could be a helpful influence.
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She will be assassinated.
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I want to fuck his sister. I hear those gooks have sideways pussies that really massage your dick.
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And NONE of the TV news media, including Fox, have mentioned this AT ALL. Not even that these rumors (and it seems like it's more than rumors now) are out there.

What I frequently find most interesting about the "news" is what they DON'T REPORT.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


It’s all speculation at this point. We are just trying to connect the dots and establish the most likely play taking place.
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Of course, but the rumors are pretty serious that he's dead and he did not show up at this major military event. So it IS likely he's either dead or incapacitated and our media is not even reporting ANYTHING about this at all and that is highly irresponsible. They're supposed to report the NEWS, which includes international speculation. As long as they report it as such.
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Cute?

If you like a woman who looks like she’d step on your dick with stilettos and giggle then yeah, she’s smoking.
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All bets are off. Kim has died, or is unable to function, possibly due to a Chinese doctor or a slip of the hand? Have you guys really thought about what this means geopolitically?

There was no Trump briefing today not because he said a few stupid things, but because there is a major power grab about to happen in North Korea, and it is NOT good. He is probably in the situation room speaking with other world leaders/allies in the region.

This could be that April 26th thing we were warned about, or the start of it.

The possible plays could be -

1. Kim’s cute sister takes over. The Red Dragon decides to go on a war footing, which eventually escalated to an attack by the Norks to instigate conflict in the SCS. Which ultimately means the United States comes to aid the south, and Taiwan. (You see where that goes)

2. Kim was assassinated by China. Either by a simple slip of the hand or a mistake. The North is not happy, and are currently planning war operations against China, which could lead to a spilling into SK. You see where that goes.

3. Kim actually had a problem and was sick, the surgeries genuinely did not work and now China will use this as an excuse to install a Puppet government, economic upheaval and all into the North, while the North is their proxy for war or attacks.

I can’t think of anything else, but something wicked this way comes. The whole world theater just destabilized. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


bsflag

yeahsure Yellow people's problems - If tRUMP was legit we would not concern ourselves with this Mongoloid mess.

One of his failed campaign promises was to bring the troops home. They should be protecting our borders!
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Cute?

If you like a woman who looks like she’d step on your dick with stilettos and giggle then yeah, she’s smoking.
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She's like that teenage assassin/body guard in Kill Bill who asks a guy if he'd like to have sex with her and kills him when he says yes.
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All bets are off. Kim has died, or is unable to function, possibly due to a Chinese doctor or a slip of the hand? Have you guys really thought about what this means geopolitically?

There was no Trump briefing today not because he said a few stupid things, but because there is a major power grab about to happen in North Korea, and it is NOT good. He is probably in the situation room speaking with other world leaders/allies in the region.

This could be that April 26th thing we were warned about, or the start of it.

The possible plays could be -

1. Kim’s cute sister takes over. The Red Dragon decides to go on a war footing, which eventually escalated to an attack by the Norks to instigate conflict in the SCS. Which ultimately means the United States comes to aid the south, and Taiwan. (You see where that goes)

2. Kim was assassinated by China. Either by a simple slip of the hand or a mistake. The North is not happy, and are currently planning war operations against China, which could lead to a spilling into SK. You see where that goes.

3. Kim actually had a problem and was sick, the surgeries genuinely did not work and now China will use this as an excuse to install a Puppet government, economic upheaval and all into the North, while the North is their proxy for war or attacks.

I can’t think of anything else, but something wicked this way comes. The whole world theater just destabilized. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


or having the cute sister in there brings a feminine touch which leads to peace and the reunification of korea
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Women in power are rarely feminine. It's not a natural female role. Most really powerful women tend to be monsters like Clinton or Merkel.





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