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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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Why did Jesus die?
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He was beaten almost to death and then nailed to a cross.

Medically speaking he died from shock caused by massive trauma and dehydration ultimatley causing heart failure.

Any other questions?
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Aussie AC78924867,

Why did Jesus die?
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He was beaten almost to death and then nailed to a cross.

Medically speaking he died from shock caused by massive trauma and dehydration ultimatley causing heart failure.

Any other questions?
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Did He die to atone for your sin?
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Jesus returns ONCE - to establish His Millenial Kingdom.
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You make a irtrelevant point and are repeatedly told why it is irrelevant,
so you just ignore the explanation and just continue to say what you say anyway.
That does not show any pursuit of truth, but defense of Self.

AGAIN, The Rapture IS NOT Jesus returning here,

but taking us to Him.

So why do you keep saying this anyway?
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german3 I'm pretty sure that Servant-of-the-DEVIL is some type of Jesuit who has been assigned this corner of the internet to silence those who would speak the truth. I think that he's made about a hundred posts on just this thread alone, which I mostly delete every now and then because otherwise the sheer volume and size of them would make the thread totally unreadable.

To some extent he serves a purpose, because it is good to see people like yourself joining in and defending the faith and the truth.
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Jesus returns ONCE - to establish His Millenial Kingdom.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

You make a irtrelevant point and are repeatedly told why it is irrelevant,
so you just ignore the explanation and just continue to say what you say anyway.
That does not show any pursuit of truth, but defense of Self.

AGAIN, The Rapture IS NOT Jesus returning here,

but taking us to Him.

So why do you keep saying this anyway?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78918000


german3 I'm pretty sure that Servant-of-the-DEVIL is some type of Jesuit who has been assigned this corner of the internet to silence those who would speak the truth. I think that he's made about a hundred posts on just this thread alone, which I mostly delete every now and then because otherwise the sheer volume and size of them would make the thread totally unreadable.

To some extent he serves a purpose, because it is good to see people like yourself joining in and defending the faith and the truth.
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Jesuits?

Lol.

Talk about reaching.

You are busted you filthy creature

Care to explain to everyone why you post young half naked girls on almost every post you do?

Old habits die hard.

And im going to blast the truth about who and what you really are as long as I breathe.

I LOATHE satanic monsters like you.

Decieving and being decieved.

Its around about now you threaten me with eternal torture again isnt it?
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so why come to a thread you obviously disagree with...
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blinkerrose Here is a very informative and doctrinally sound

video from Melissia of Midnight Hour Oil that I hope will answer many of your questions. It's well worth watching.
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so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1 Thessalonians 3:13

1. What are "saints"?

2. How many of them come WITH Him at His Second Coming?
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You think it's just Gentiles?
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You didn't my questions.

You questioned and insulted...

again...

Are the questions in any way unreasonable or unacceptable?
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The "saints" aren't people who are "raptured".

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1 Thessalonians 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
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so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1 Thessalonians 3:13

1. What are "saints"?

2. How many of them come WITH Him at His Second Coming?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78918000


You think it's just Gentiles?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


You didn't my questions.

You questioned and insulted...

again...

Are the questions in any way unreasonable or unacceptable?
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The "saints" aren't people who are "raptured".

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1 Thessalonians 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
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1 Thessalonians 5:4-9

But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.
You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.
For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ
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so why come to a thread you obviously disagree with...
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You do the same thing.

1doh1
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blinker rose: Here is a very informative and doctrinally sound

video from Melissia of Midnight Hour Oil that I hope will answer many of your questions. It's well worth watching.
 Quoting: Judethz


burnit
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John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in TRUTH.

A person proclaiming to be a "Servant of the Lord" should be able to know the difference between hammering to death endless (and useless) arguments instead of proclaiming the simple Gospel.
Preach the Gospel.
Do what you are called to do.

A preoccupation or craving for useless word battles reveals the spirit of that person.
They are clouds - with no water.

Having the look and sound of someone who "fights" for what he thinks is the truth but instead, reveals that doesn't know Truth.

Calling yourself a servant, disciple, apostle or prophet does not make it so... having lots of green karma votes and friends does not impress God.

Jesus, The WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE
DO YOU KNOW HIM?
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I wish people would stop bringing this up. I cant help what I am. I was created this way. Yes I have weaknesses like everyone else and have paid the price for what I did. But im celibate now. And by the grace of God I wont molest any children again. But as for my cross dressing, its a gift from the Lord. It helps me understand the opposite sex. Its how God made me.
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This is all anyone needs to know.
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How can I be ready to be caught up in the rapture?

Answer: The rapture is coming, and we should all make sure we are ready for it. Being ready for the rapture is much simpler than you may think. In short, you must receive Jesus Christ as your Savior. The rapture is for believers.

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What are the steps to salvation?

When the Philippian jailer asked Paul, “What must I do to be saved?” Paul responded, “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved” (Acts 16:30-31)

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Deuteronomy 4 (Moses speaking to Israel)

30 When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which
he sware unto them.
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Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples,
and exhorting them to continue in the faith,
and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.


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"tribulation" occurs 22 times in 22 verses in the KJV.

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Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Judges 10:14 Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation.

1 Samuel 26:24 And, behold, as thy life was much set by this day in mine eyes, so let my life be much set by in the eyes of the LORD, and let him deliver me out of all tribulation.

Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Romans 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the J'e=w first, and also of the Gentile;

Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Romans 12:12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

2 Corinthians 1:4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

2 Corinthians 7:4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.

1 Thessalonians 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

2 Thessalonians 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are J'e=ws, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Revelation 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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Why did Jesus die?
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I wish people would stop bringing this up. I cant help what I am. I was created this way. Yes I have weaknesses like everyone else and have paid the price for what I did. But im celibate now. And by the grace of God I wont molest any children again. But as for my cross dressing, its a gift from the Lord. It helps me understand the opposite sex. Its how God made me.
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This is all anyone needs to know.
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lol
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:jclm:
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So what does the white Anglo dude with long hair , a beard and the chick in skinny jeans have to do with the thread ? a Woodstock thing ?
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How can I be ready to be caught up in the rapture?

Answer: The rapture is coming, and we should all make sure we are ready for it. Being ready for the rapture is much simpler than you may think. In short, you must receive Jesus Christ as your Savior. The rapture is for believers.

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What are the steps to salvation?

When the Philippian jailer asked Paul, “What must I do to be saved?” Paul responded, “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved” (Acts 16:30-31)

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No rapture. Believers are alive until the end.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
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Why did Jesus die?
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How do you earn your salvation?
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Why did Jesus die?
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For people's Salvation. Not for folks to escape tribulation.
Believers have been going through various tribulations since the dawn of time.

The End Times will be NO different.

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.
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Since you say Jesus's death on thhe cross is not enough for me,

what else do you say I must do?

You say I must be subject to the Wrath of God?

Why?

What about somebody that died yesterday?

How come they don't have do anything else?
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How do you earn your salvation?
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1. Repent

Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel.


2. Believe

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


3. Be "born again".

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


4. Forgive others so the Father will forgive you.

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.



5. Do the Father's Will

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
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Believers have been going through various tribulations since the dawn of time.

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Yes, we all have and yes we all do.

That does not mean that Jesus Christ beats the hell out of His Bride...
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AC40757868,

How do you earn your salvation?
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1. Repent

Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel.


2. Believe

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


3. Be "born again".

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


4. Forgive others so the Father will forgive you.

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.



5. Do the Father's Will

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
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Correct.

So why do you say God wants to inflict His Wrath upon me?

Why?
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If He did it,

what else do I have to do??
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I believe Jesus Christ.

What else do you say that I have to do?
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Since you say Jesus's death on thhe cross is not enough for me,

what else do you say I must do?

You say I must be subject to the Wrath of God?

Why?

What about somebody that died yesterday?

How come they don't have do anything else?
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Tribulation IS NOT wrath.

See what the wrath of God is like.

The Flood
Sodom and Gomorrah
Those who were "swallowed up by the earth" during
the 40 years in the wilderness.

THAT is wrath.
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What do YOU say that I must do in The Tribulation for Jesus?
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Believers have been going through various tribulations since the dawn of time.

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Yes, we all have and yes we all do.

That does not mean that Jesus Christ beats the hell out of His Bride...
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That's funny - I guess you never heard about the "tribulation saints" who were beheaded. You know - the ones mentioned in Revelation.

gaah
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Please define your terms.

What is "The Tribulation"?

What is "The Great Tribulation"?

What is "The Wrath of God"?





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