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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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Believers have been going through various tribulations since the dawn of time.

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Yes, we all have and yes we all do.

That does not mean that Jesus Christ beats the hell out of His Bride...
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That's funny - I guess you never heard about the "tribulation saints" who were beheaded. You know - the ones mentioned in Revelation.

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Of course I have. What would make you think I haven't??
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I believe Jesus Christ.

What else do you say that I have to do?
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Believers are alive until the end.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
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:bridec:...……. The days of plenty are over....…….:bridea:

The days of grinding poverty and unimageable hardship are nearly upon us. The Corona Virus is just on of many manmade plagues that can be unleashed upon us at any time. Except for a few, all the rest of our leaders have made their deal with the devil. He wants to drag you down to hell with him, and if you are still here after the Rapture it will be because of your wilful blindness.

You have still been blessed with a little time, so don't waste it. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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False desperate delusion.

All prophecy has to be fulfilled. 7 more years after COVENANT is signed. Buck up CHRISTIANA, If you're unprepared it's your own fault.

And your faith will falter, and you will take the MARK. DONT BLAME JESUS, BLAME YOURSELF
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I believe Jesus Christ.

What else do you say that I have to do?
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Believers are alive until the end.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
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Very few. The vast majority are

killed in the 3.5 years of GREAT, even those 144,000 Christians, are decimated who are with the 2 CHRISTIAN WITNESSES AT PETRA ..SEE DANIEL REFERENCES...
I believe Jesus Christ.

What else do you say that I have to do?
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Believers are alive until the end.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
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Tl;dr, I know full well all the best people have already said it. There is NO secret rapture. Christians are saved from God's wrath, but not the tribulation. The whole point is to see who still puts ALL their faith in God, even after all that. The freaking church is still here. Get used to it.
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Judethz,

I agree with you that we are in the Season. The blood moon that rose over Italy on April 12th was not predicted. That was a sign to the Vatican in my opinion. I think something big is going to happen this upcoming Feast of Tabernacles Oct 3-9 this year.
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:german7: That's if we get through to October! LOL

I feel that it is very close, it could even happen today so we have to be ready at all times lest it take us unawares.
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Do you not believe the words of Jesus ? Read (very carefully) Mathew 24 29-31 "Immediately AFTER the tribulation..' Pay close attention to Mathew 24 verse 31, this is the rapture, period.
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A very great many people of all nations and races will give their lives for their Testimony of Faith in Jesus Christ during the Tribulation.

They are another special group of Believers.
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Some will persevere and endure to the very end.

They are a special group of Believers.
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Some will be judged worthy to be suddenly seized straight away to be with Him before all these things come upon all those that dwell upon the earth.

They are another special group of Believers.

Oh Lord, how I hope and pray to be among that number!
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Judethz,

I agree with you that we are in the Season. The blood moon that rose over Italy on April 12th was not predicted. That was a sign to the Vatican in my opinion. I think something big is going to happen this upcoming Feast of Tabernacles Oct 3-9 this year.
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:german7: That's if we get through to October! LOL

I feel that it is very close, it could even happen today so we have to be ready at all times lest it take us unawares.
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Do you not believe the words of Jesus ? Read (very carefully) Mathew 24 29-31 "Immediately AFTER the tribulation..' Pay close attention to Mathew 24 verse 31, this is the rapture, period.
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Immediately after the tribulation of those days WHAT??

NOT THE RAPTURE!!!
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Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion
;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10

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When is the day of the Lord's anger?

When is the time of trouble?

What is the hour of trial that shall upon the whole world?


Please answer...
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Those who believe pre/mid trib "taken into the air" rapture are unable to Trust God Fully.
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:sitquiet: You must be mad, the bible directly contradicts what you are saying.


KJV 1 Thess. 4
13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

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Read the words from Jesus directly Mathew 24 verse 29-31 "Immediately AFTER the tribulation..." verse 31 is the Rapture. Dont try to spin the words of the lord, there is a warning in Revelations to people that do this.
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Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21

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WHERE does WHO hide themselves for a little while

during The Indignation

while The Lord punishes those that inhabit the earth?



PLEASE ANSWER...
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What is "THE INDIGNATION"?

Please answer...
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Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Matthew 24:44


But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


Jesus would not tell us to seek to be counted worthy to escape these things to come
if some were not found worthy to escape these things to come
and escaped these things to come.


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"tribulation" occurs 22 times in 22 verses in the KJV.

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Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Judges 10:14 Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation.

etc...………………………………..
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nordicspear To be sure many of those who have died in the Lord before the Rapture takes place have suffered great tribulation, even unto death. However in the nearly 2,000 years since the Lord's ministry hundreds of millions have died in the Lord and great numbers of them have suffered virtually no tribulation or persecution, and a great many others have suffered moderate persecution and hardship.

My point being that you cannot say that we must all suffer tribulation, this works out as the Lord wills.
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Will the Second Coming of Jesus Christ be unexpected

of precisely after 7 years, 3 1/2 years, 1290 days, 1260 days.

For those that find themselves hoping to endure til the very end,

will they be able to know exactly how much longer that will be

because they will be able to know exactly what day JEsus is returning?


Please answer!
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Will the Second Coming of Jesus Christ be unexpected
or precisely after 7 years, 3 1/2 years, 1290 days, 1260 days?

For those that find themselves hoping to endure until the very end,
will they be able to know exactly how much longer that will be
because they will be able to know exactly what day JEsus is returning?

Please answer!

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Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Matthew 24:44


But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


Jesus would not tell us to seek to be counted worthy to escape these things to come
if some were not found worthy to escape these things to come
and escaped these things to come.

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You could be hit with a rapture tomorrow, and then where would you be.

My guess is you will continue to do the things you have already been doing to prepare the Earth for the Kingdom.

I'm not waiting for Jesus to get the ball rolling.
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If you fight this hard against the notion of possibly going to see Jesus right this moment

I am most certain that YOU DO NOT want to go stand before Jesus right this very moment.
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You could be hit with a rapture tomorrow, and then where would you be.

My guess is you will continue to do the things you have already been doing to prepare the Earth for the Kingdom.

I'm not waiting for Jesus to get the ball rolling.
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To live is Christ and to die is gain.

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Judethz,

I agree with you that we are in the Season. The blood moon that rose over Italy on April 12th was not predicted. That was a sign to the Vatican in my opinion. I think something big is going to happen this upcoming Feast of Tabernacles Oct 3-9 this year.
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german7 That's if we get through to October! LOL

I feel that it is very close, it could even happen today so we have to be ready at all times lest it take us unawares.
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Do you not believe the words of Jesus ? Read (very carefully) Mathew 24 29-31 "Immediately AFTER the tribulation..' Pay close attention to Mathew 24 verse 31, this is the rapture, period.
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Jesus was speaking to Israel under the law... when he said he came only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, why don't you believe it... when he sent us Paul with the dispensation of grace, why don't you believe it?
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Will the Second Coming of Jesus Christ be unexpected

of precisely after 7 years, 3 1/2 years, 1290 days, 1260 days.

For those that find themselves hoping to endure til the very end,

will they be able to know exactly how much longer that will be

because they will be able to know exactly what day JEsus is returning?


Please answer!
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jbase No I don't think that you can say exactly because of the following passages.

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
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"tribulation" occurs 22 times in 22 verses in the KJV.

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Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Judges 10:14 Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation.

etc...………………………………..
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nordicspear To be sure many of those who have died in the Lord before the Rapture takes place have suffered great tribulation, even unto death. However in the nearly 2,000 years since the Lord's ministry hundreds of millions have died in the Lord and great numbers of them have suffered virtually no tribulation or persecution, and a great many others have suffered moderate persecution and hardship.

My point being that you cannot say that we must all suffer tribulation, this works out as the Lord wills.
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was your thread at first. I honestly don't agree with you most of the time (still don't in this instance), but I do understand your faith. I'm probably going to hell either way, but I still believe that the church will be here in the tribulation. Most people say "it's the two witnesses", or " it's the 144k", when I say, but who will be here to lead the unbelievers to Jesus? I understand wanting to escape everything, but when I was a practicing Christian, I wholeheartedly believed that I would see the tribulation, and that my purpose was to plant seeds.

Now, though I am living in my rebellion, I would beg God to let me stay and lead a few more to him. Ugh, thank you for the thread. hf
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Judethz,

I agree with you that we are in the Season. The blood moon that rose over Italy on April 12th was not predicted. That was a sign to the Vatican in my opinion. I think something big is going to happen this upcoming Feast of Tabernacles Oct 3-9 this year.
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:german7: That's if we get through to October! LOL

I feel that it is very close, it could even happen today so we have to be ready at all times lest it take us unawares.
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Do you not believe the words of Jesus ? Read (very carefully) Mathew 24 29-31 "Immediately AFTER the tribulation..' Pay close attention to Mathew 24 verse 31, this is the rapture, period.
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Immediately after the tribulation of those days WHAT??

NOT THE RAPTURE!!!
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Says he is coming in the clouds and a sound of the trumpet, sounds like the rapture to me.
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A very great many people of all nations and races will give their lives for their Testimony of Faith in Jesus Christ during the Tribulation.

They are another special group of Believers.
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Some will persevere and endure to the very end.

They are a special group of Believers.
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Some will be judged worthy to be suddenly seized straight away to be with Him before all these things come upon all those that dwell upon the earth.

They are another special group of Believers.

Oh Lord, how I hope and pray to be among that number!
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Some have believed and gone on to be with Him.
They are another group of Believers.

Some, the Daniel's 70th Week, Time of Jacob's Trouble, 1/3 Remnant of Israel will believe in Yeshua.
They are another group of Believers.

All Believers.
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Says he is coming in the clouds and a sound of the trumpet, sounds like the rapture to me.
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You still have ZERO understanding of what the Rapture is.

Him coming here IS NOT The Rapture!

Can you hear me?!
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Is this Jesus coming here?!


In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3
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Is this Jesus coming here?!

I go to prepare a place for you.
I will.. receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3
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WHERE IS THIS??


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
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Tl;dr, I know full well all the best people have already said it. There is NO secret rapture. Christians are saved from God's wrath, but not the tribulation. The whole point is to see who still puts ALL their faith in God, even after all that. The freaking church is still here. Get used to it.
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yellowdress The Laconian type churches that are lukewarm, those that tolerate witchcraft, homosexuality. the prosperity gospel, the Pope and all the rest of them will still be here. Quite probably many of the Tribulation Saints will have been former members who have been fortunate enough not to have lost their lives before they turned to the Lord. (Nothing is guaranteed.) The cost of their salvation will be their lives.





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