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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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Get out of here with your Juw Prophecy.
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:portx: I think that you have a nasty surprise coming to you.
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Sooner than many people think ? Many Many Many people thought it should have happened already and you can read all about the two dozen or so Dates that were set in the last 8 years. All those dates have come and gone. Looks like we are riding out the Trib and will probably die for our faith or once the free stuff stops coming in the mail join the New World order and its Leader.
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The words of unbelievers are growing even uglier in these past few months. Some people seem demonically inspired to write vicious and spitting replies.

They dismiss the seriousness of the call to repent of their sins and accept God's gift of salvation.

Romans 2:5
But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart - you are storing up wrath for yourself - in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.

All people will be judged thoroughly and perfectly for whatever they have done.
There is a Judgment Day.

To be forgiven for WHAT YOU HAVE DONE is the greatest gift that you'll ever receive.
Jesus Christ, the Messiah, Savior and King of Kings died on a cross, as a sacrifice - in YOUR place - He died for your sins.
Accept His gift of Salvation, to be forgiven and to be made pure, clean and righteous.

God's only begotten Son, The Lamb of God, born of a virgin, sinless and worthy to be given all worship and praise forever, amen.

Be saved.
The Tribulation is starting.
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A great deception is coming upon the entire world, a deception so extreme and intense that even many so-called "Christians" will fall away and be deceived.

The bible is God's Word.
Believe God's Word, accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and be saved.
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Amen!
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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Sooner than many people think ? Many Many Many people thought it should have happened already and you can read all about the two dozen or so Dates that were set in the last 8 years. All those dates have come and gone. Looks like we are riding out the Trib and will probably die for our faith or once the free stuff stops coming in the mail join the New World order and its Leader.
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nordicspear It's hardly my fault that some people have been date setting when they shouldn't have. But we are expected to know the season. In the USA alone it is estimated that around 50,000,000 people have lost their jobs in the last 6 weeks. You are just whistling past the graveyard foolishly thinking that the lockdowns will be lifted and in a few weeks life will continue on as it has before.

Who knows, perhaps when you are digging through some farmers fields in mid winter for a few half rotten turnips to keep body and soul together, you might finally come to your senses.
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Why does Jesus Witness, in Matt 24:21-24, that "were the days not shortened, no flesh would remain alive" when HE is Witnesssing in answer to their "What will be the signs of your (2nd) Coming?"...

HE further says "But those days Will Be Shortened, for The Very Elect's sake"...


Who Are "The Very Elect"???


It's made pretty plain in Matt 22:1-14; especially when Jesus Witnesses in verse 14: "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" The whole Parable of The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son" in these verses Witnesses THE PURPOSE Of Christianity and thereby Purpose Of Christ Jesus' Being Manifested Unto The world.

It all goes back to John 3:7 "Marvel not that I Say unto you: Ye MUST be Born-Again!"


See?
The Very Elect are they who CHOSE-ELECTED To Answer Father-God's Call. They Elected to Trust God Fully with all they are and all they ever would be... They surrendered control of their life Unto The Father...

It is FOR Their Sake, that God will intervene and thwart satan's plan to destroy all flesh on this earth.

Don't think this is already underway?


As nice as the rapture-fable would be to be true; Christ Witnesses in HIS John ch 17 PRAYER Unto The Father, for HIM NOT To remove HIS People from the world. John 17:15

It's THERE ^ and Pretty Plain....

But the whole rapture pre/mid false teaching/belief has it's origins in fear.

Those who believe pre/mid trib "taken into the air" rapture are unable to Trust God Fully.



I would say, in some effort to comfort your fear, that everything will be fine... Except it won't!

The first of God's 3 Witnessing Angels in Rev 14:7-9 will announce to the whole world that 'God The Father IS Real and HIS Son Comes In Judgment.' Even the dead will 'hear' this Witness...

What is Witnesses in Rev 14:7 is The End Of The Age Of Faith and consequently, the Closing Of The Way Unto The Father... For we are only Born-Again by Coming Unto HIM in our Faith and By Acknowledging Christ Jesus.


Gonna be a lot of Christians with dashed expectations, left On Their Own, in alienation from God.


If you can't put your reliance upon HIM in good times, what makes you think HE Will Accept you only when your motivation is fear?

Christ Witnesses in John 17 that HIS People are "Preserved against all evil"... Not willing to accept Jesus on this though are you?


To Be Born-Again takes "dying unto self"... Giving up your self-will and stewardship of your life and giving your all Unto The Father.

Dead to the world, but Alive Now and Forever In and With HIM!

Have to lose your life to save it!
Only through our surrender do we Become Partakers In HIS Victory!



Born-Again have Been Delivered BY Father-God... Given that New Heart Of HIS Flesh Witnessed in Ezekiel 36:26; Replacing our "stony heart"... Enabled to KNOW and DO HIS Will and "Keep MY Statutes"...

Only By Being Born-Again are we Delivered from sin. God The Holy Spirit Dwelling Within us! Guiding us through life and Giving Us Witness of God's Wills everyday.


Want to "believe" in a fable, but can't Take Action and Tell God you Trust HIM with all you are and all you ever will be?

Failed vessels, like the Matt 7:22 super-Christians who did miracles, cast-out demons, prophesied... did Everything but Come Unto The Father... Jesus Tells them in verse 23: "Depart from ME, you who work iniquity: I KNOW YOU NOT!"


There is no place for a wedding crasher without their (Born-Again) wedding garment at The Wedding Feast... Matt 22:11-13 No place for the interloper like in Luke 13:22-28... Both times Jesus Witnesses HIS Father Will Instruct HIS Servants: "Bind him hand and foot and throw him into the Outer Darkness... There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth!"


Believing in fables when you can't find it in your heart to Trust God Fully.... Such is failure.


Maranatha!!!
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blinkerrose Here is a very informative and doctrinally sound

video from Melissia of Midnight Hour Oil that I hope will answer many of your questions. It's well worth watching and also covers many of the false arguments made by Lester in the previous post.

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Why does Jesus Witness, in Matt 24:21-24, that "were the days not shortened, no flesh would remain alive" when HE is Witnesssing in answer to their "What will be the signs of your (2nd) Coming?"...

HE further says "But those days Will Be Shortened, for The Very Elect's sake"...


Who Are "The Very Elect"???


It's made pretty plain in Matt 22:1-14; especially when Jesus Witnesses in verse 14: "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" The whole Parable of The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son" in these verses Witnesses THE PURPOSE Of Christianity and thereby Purpose Of Christ Jesus' Being Manifested Unto The world.

It all goes back to John 3:7 "Marvel not that I Say unto you: Ye MUST be Born-Again!"


See?
The Very Elect are they who CHOSE-ELECTED To Answer Father-God's Call. They Elected to Trust God Fully with all they are and all they ever would be... They surrendered control of their life Unto The Father...

It is FOR Their Sake, that God will intervene and thwart satan's plan to destroy all flesh on this earth.

Don't think this is already underway?


As nice as the rapture-fable would be to be true; Christ Witnesses in HIS John ch 17 PRAYER Unto The Father, for HIM NOT To remove HIS People from the world. John 17:15

It's THERE ^ and Pretty Plain....

But the whole rapture pre/mid false teaching/belief has it's origins in fear.

Those who believe pre/mid trib "taken into the air" rapture are unable to Trust God Fully.



I would say, in some effort to comfort your fear, that everything will be fine... Except it won't!

The first of God's 3 Witnessing Angels in Rev 14:7-9 will announce to the whole world that 'God The Father IS Real and HIS Son Comes In Judgment.' Even the dead will 'hear' this Witness...

What is Witnesses in Rev 14:7 is The End Of The Age Of Faith and consequently, the Closing Of The Way Unto The Father... For we are only Born-Again by Coming Unto HIM in our Faith and By Acknowledging Christ Jesus.


Gonna be a lot of Christians with dashed expectations, left On Their Own, in alienation from God.


If you can't put your reliance upon HIM in good times, what makes you think HE Will Accept you only when your motivation is fear?

Christ Witnesses in John 17 that HIS People are "Preserved against all evil"... Not willing to accept Jesus on this though are you?


To Be Born-Again takes "dying unto self"... Giving up your self-will and stewardship of your life and giving your all Unto The Father.

Dead to the world, but Alive Now and Forever In and With HIM!

Have to lose your life to save it!
Only through our surrender do we Become Partakers In HIS Victory!



Born-Again have Been Delivered BY Father-God... Given that New Heart Of HIS Flesh Witnessed in Ezekiel 36:26; Replacing our "stony heart"... Enabled to KNOW and DO HIS Will and "Keep MY Statutes"...

Only By Being Born-Again are we Delivered from sin. God The Holy Spirit Dwelling Within us! Guiding us through life and Giving Us Witness of God's Wills everyday.


Want to "believe" in a fable, but can't Take Action and Tell God you Trust HIM with all you are and all you ever will be?

Failed vessels, like the Matt 7:22 super-Christians who did miracles, cast-out demons, prophesied... did Everything but Come Unto The Father... Jesus Tells them in verse 23: "Depart from ME, you who work iniquity: I KNOW YOU NOT!"


There is no place for a wedding crasher without their (Born-Again) wedding garment at The Wedding Feast... Matt 22:11-13 No place for the interloper like in Luke 13:22-28... Both times Jesus Witnesses HIS Father Will Instruct HIS Servants: "Bind him hand and foot and throw him into the Outer Darkness... There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth!"


Believing in fables when you can't find it in your heart to Trust God Fully.... Such is failure.


Maranatha!!!
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why are you NOT aware... Paul is THE apositle of the gentiles... why are you quoting letters written to the priesthood... satan has blinded you... you ARE NOT part of the body of CHRIST... if you were, you would know better...
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Those who believe pre/mid trib "taken into the air" rapture are unable to Trust God Fully.
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sitquiet You must be mad, the bible directly contradicts what you are saying.


KJV 1 Thess. 4
13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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Get out of here with your Juw Prophecy.
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:portx: I think that you have a nasty surprise coming to you.
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My god, my god why have you forsaken me? A life wasted believing a myth. His one and only life dedicated to a lie. Then nailed to a cross, his last minutes of life and he realizes he wasted it. A cautionary tale to walk away from all god claims. Man creates god in his image. Then grants him powers man doesnt posses. The most important thing about the Christian god is man gets to be immortal. It might be in heaven or hell, but you are so important, you must live on forever! You don't see this and never will. Your born, live and die. Thats all. Its ok. Enjoy and cherish this life, its the only one you have. No matter had badly you want to fly away to your choice theme park.
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The primary reason I don't believe in the rapture is because John the Baptist wasn't rescued nor was Jesus exempted from the cross thus we must stand against what is to come with the Almighty working through the body, the flesh though He need not nonetheless working through His creation smiting the fallen. (Ephesians 6:12) (Joshua 1:9) (Psalm 139:13-16)

Of course prophet Elijah and Enoch were taken.
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People that cant wait for the rapture should do the wold a favor and rapture themselves.
Have you been outside lately. Its beautiful.
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:bridec:...……. The days of plenty are over....…….:bridea:

The days of grinding poverty and unimageable hardship are nearly upon us. The Corona Virus is just on of many manmade plagues that can be unleashed upon us at any time. Except for a few, all the rest of our leaders have made their deal with the devil. He wants to drag you down to hell with him, and if you are still here after the Rapture it will be because of your wilful blindness.

You have still been blessed with a little time, so don't waste it. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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Some graduate at the end and some do not , has always been that way . The universe has no bias . Opportunities present and are taken or rejected but we can be sure of one thing , opportunities will come again . We are all on the same path , none are more special than another . Is one car closer to a destination better than another ? The boook of enoch made things very clear , for those on the path to god , perservere until the LAST DAY and you will be released .
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:bridec:...……. The days of plenty are over....…….:bridea:

The days of grinding poverty and unimageable hardship are nearly upon us. The Corona Virus is just on of many manmade plagues that can be unleashed upon us at any time. Except for a few, all the rest of our leaders have made their deal with the devil. He wants to drag you down to hell with him, and if you are still here after the Rapture it will be because of your wilful blindness.

You have still been blessed with a little time, so don't waste it. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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2133AD - 2020AD = the event
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My god, my god why have you forsaken me?
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boss

That is not what he said on the cross. The history of that translation was incorrect, and has deceived many a brethren.
Skinner in 1875 elucidated the proper meaning of what he spoke on the cross:

"My God, my God, how thou dost glorify me!"

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Of course prophet Elijah and Enoch were taken.
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Elijah is Elisha, and Elisha is the Messiah in one of his many manifestations:

Advent of the Messiah as the Prophet. (see Deut. xviii. 15.) The Messiah as the Prophet is manifest as a physical presence in and as Elisha the son of Shaphat; the proof being witnessed (see 2 Kings v. 10-14; St. Luke vii. 19-23; St. Luke vi. 44) by Elisha's works; wherefore, from these conditions, indications are evident that the Living Bread descends into the valley of the shadow of death, and that it returns from thence (see Isa. vi. 13) and shall be eaten.

By descent into the valley of the shadow of death the Messiah changes his tabernacle as the seed of Abraham, the Seed of Isaac, the Seed of Jacob, and as the Seed of Jacob after him; hence it follows that the Messiah (see 1 Chron. xvii. 4, 5) walked in many tabernacles; one of which, as already indicated, is that manifest in Elisha the Prophet.
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My god, my god why have you forsaken me?
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That is not what he said on the cross. The history of that translation was incorrect, and has deceived many a brethren.
Skinner in 1875 elucidated the proper meaning of what he spoke on the cross:

"My God, my God, how thou dost glorify me!"

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german5 I'll stick with what the bible says, not someone's interpation.
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I'll stick with what the bible says, not someone's interpation.
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That is fine with me. I love you no less than anyone else. You can read more at my link:
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Search my references, and you will find the book titled: "Key to the Hebrew-Egyptian Mystery in the Source of Measures Originating the British Inch and the Ancient Cubit" - James Ralston Skinner - 1875

I have the PDF of the book unlinked, but I can share if needed.

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I'll stick with what the bible says, not someone's interpation.
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That is fine with me. I love you no less than anyone else. You can read more at my link:
[link to nemesis8.com (secure)]

Search my references, and you will find the book titled: "Key to the Hebrew-Egyptian Mystery in the Source of Measures Originating the British Inch and the Ancient Cubit" - James Ralston Skinner - 1875

I have the PDF of the book unlinked, but I can share if needed.

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judethe Thanks but to be honest I have so many other things to do that I doubt that I would ever get round to reading it.
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Surrender and be Born Again.

Surrender; to give up, to yield power to another
Being Born Again; The work of the Holy Spirit.

Many have their own interpretation of God's message.
They insist they CAN and MUST make it happen in their own strength. (Demanding others to do likewise)
To them, being the "very" elect or even to be born again means to strive real, real hard to trust in God.
It is exhausting to be a religious person like that.

Saying things like, "weak Christians are not willing to trust God enough.." in effect, saying it is a work of man and not a free gift from God.

They believe they have to "trust God enough" to go through the Great Tribulation.
Some believe they will "be tested" by suffering through God's Wrath on earth for the last 3 1/2 years to endure to the very end.

Collecting a handful of bible verses to prove their stubborn stand (of no rapture), they will not be persuaded from their position.
I do not argue with them anymore. They believe what they believe.

Genesis 5 tells of Enoch, who walked with God and was taken into Heaven.
God took Enoch.
Raptured him.
That is enough for me to know that God can rapture anybody He chooses.

Believe in the rapture or don't.

To forsake this world & commit to follow Jesus Christ is an astonishing achievement that can only be attributed to God's redeeming power. To surrender and be born again is a work of God. It is GODS WORK.
It is God at work IN YOU that enables you to believe and do His Will. (Phil 2)

Some men try to take credit for what God does and they are called Religious.
Religion can't save you.
Even if you trust real, real hard.

For it is by free grace (God's unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment) Christs' Salvation is the gift of God - a washing of the new birth and the giving of new life in the Holy Spirit.

Surrender
Be Born Again
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Sooner than many people think ? Many Many Many people thought it should have happened already and you can read all about the two dozen or so Dates that were set in the last 8 years. All those dates have come and gone. Looks like we are riding out the Trib and will probably die for our faith or once the free stuff stops coming in the mail join the New World order and its Leader.
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:nordicspear: It's hardly my fault that some people have been date setting when they shouldn't have. But we are expected to know the season. In the USA alone it is estimated that around 50,000,000 people have lost their jobs in the last 6 weeks. You are just whistling past the graveyard foolishly thinking that the lockdowns will be lifted and in a few weeks life will continue on as it has before.

Who knows, perhaps when you are digging through some farmers fields in mid winter for a few half rotten turnips to keep body and soul together, you might finally come to your senses.
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Judethz,

I agree with you that we are in the Season. The blood moon that rose over Italy on April 12th was not predicted. That was a sign to the Vatican in my opinion. I think something big is going to happen this upcoming Feast of Tabernacles Oct 3-9 this year.
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Judethz,

I agree with you that we are in the Season. The blood moon that rose over Italy on April 12th was not predicted. That was a sign to the Vatican in my opinion. I think something big is going to happen this upcoming Feast of Tabernacles Oct 3-9 this year.
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german7 That's if we get through to October! LOL

I feel that it is very close, it could even happen today so we have to be ready at all times lest it take us unawares.
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My god, my god why have you forsaken me?
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That is not what he said on the cross. The history of that translation was incorrect, and has deceived many a brethren.
Skinner in 1875 elucidated the proper meaning of what he spoke on the cross:

"My God, my God, how thou dost glorify me!"

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:german5: I'll stick with what the bible says, not someone's interpation.
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What do you mean "someones interpretation"? Everything you write is someones interpretation because there are several interpretations of the rapture
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What do you mean "someones interpretation"? Everything you write is someones interpretation because there are several interpretations of the rapture
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german3 Your just playing word games. Keep it up and you'll be left here to face the music after we've been taken away,

just like all the other scoffers.
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Judetz you are part and partial of a fake security... God does not rapture only faithful dumb Christians off a planet in deep doo doo. The celestial governments do not such thing.. except if the planet goes into AXIS shift.. When that shift starts which IS the case with this planet should it axis shift.. anybody who will board ship which has nothing to do with any religion is welcome. In these giant axis shifts planets are EVACUATED which is NOT rpature
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FALSE and the ratpure/ressurection event is NOT for the craprantians who worship satan of nebadon
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And Mr. Judetz... in the case of nuclear holocaust... those ones cannot get IN to the atmosphere so people can board ship.. and so those who ARE worthy and chipped.. will be pull right off their toilets into a craft quite some distance away.
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sorry candace, but nobody is taking your "chip" and you don't have the authority/ability to force it on anyone. neither does your idol, Billy Gates.

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