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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
Judethz  (OP)
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^ Sir, why post the girls?
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nicesmile Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.
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Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first,
and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped,
so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


2 Thessalonians 2:3,4


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"The word in the Greek is "apostasia." That word can mean one of two things; it can mean a falling away of the faith, like apostasy. It can also mean the falling or catching away.
You can make a competent case, if you're a Greek expert, that this term "apostasia" here is referring to the Rapture, but I'm not going to make that case because I don't need to..."


Chuck Missler on Harpazo: the Restrainer, the Day of the Lord and the Antichrist [Part 2]

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Sure is funny that the "falling away" that Paul states is pretty much the same thing that Jesus states.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
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you do realize this is a jesuit teaching that didn't come about until the last 500 years or so? Until the jesuits introduced this teaching NO ONE on the planet ever believed or taught such a belief.
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german7: Really? How come it's in the gospels then.
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It's NOT.

It's the Second Coming of Christ.

Believers DO NOT escape tribulation.

another do
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you do realize this is a jesuit teaching that didn't come about until the last 500 years or so? Until the jesuits introduced this teaching NO ONE on the planet ever believed or taught such a belief.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


german7: Really? How come it's in the gospels then.
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It's NOT.

It's the Second Coming of Christ.

Believers DO NOT escape tribulation.

another do
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yellowbike During the Rapture the Lord meets us in the clouds, during the Second Coming the Lord returns to the earth.

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
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you do realize this is a jesuit teaching that didn't come about until the last 500 years or so? Until the jesuits introduced this teaching NO ONE on the planet ever believed or taught such a belief.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


german7 Really? How come it's in the gospels then.
 Quoting: Judethz


it may be in the bible as you have it, but the teaching was never taught prior to the jesuits putting it out there. Never.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


backb I cannot argue with someone who just makes stuff up as they go along.
 Quoting: Judethz


prove to me that the hebrews taught the rapture theory.... prove to me that the first christians taught the rapture theory..... and i will prove to YOU when it first began to be taught. and don't give me the crap about paul saying we'll disappear in the twinkling of an eye..... no... prove the TEACHING of the rapture theory prior to the 1500s
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The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Believers DO NOT escape tribulation.

another do
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Thank you.
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It's NOT.

It's the Second Coming of Christ.

Believers DO NOT escape tribulation.

another do:
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yellowbike: During the Rapture the Lord meets us in the clouds, during the Second Coming the Lord returns to the earth.

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 Quoting: Judethz


"Alive and remain" already matches what Jesus said "endure till the end" (Matthew 24:13).

"Lord in the air"? Got that covered too.

Matthew 24

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


Mark 13

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Priesthood waiting for tribulation

Acts 15:5
"But said they, certain of the sect of the Pharisees, which did believe, rose up, saying that it was needful to circumciseddd them, and to command them to keep the Law of Moses."

James 2:10
"For whosoever shall keep the whole Law, and yet faileth in one point, he is guilty of all."

Deut 7:11
"Keep thou therefore the commandments, and the ordinances, and the laws, which I command thee this day to do them."

Deut 8:11
"Beware that thou forget not the Lord thy God, not keeping his commandments and his laws, and his ordinances, which I command thee this day:"


Body of Christ
waiting for rapture

1 Corinthians 6:12
"All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not profitable. I may do all things, but I will not be brought under the power of any thing."

1 Corinthians 10:23
"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not"

you have no discernment, you're arrogance has blinded you...Don't take the mark...

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it may be in the bible as you have it, but the teaching was never taught prior to the jesuits putting it out there. Never.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


backb I cannot argue with someone who just makes stuff up as they go along.
 Quoting: Judethz


prove to me that the hebrews taught the rapture theory.... prove to me that the first christians taught the rapture theory..... and i will prove to YOU when it first began to be taught. and don't give me the crap about paul saying we'll disappear in the twinkling of an eye..... no... prove the TEACHING of the rapture theory prior to the 1500s
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


can't do it, can ya
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

has it ever occurred to you that you're NOT part of the body of Christ? The fact you've been blinded to rapture just means you're not part of it, not that it's untrue ... MILLIONS are however...don't take the mark...
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backb I cannot argue with someone who just makes stuff up as they go along.
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prove to me that the Hebrews taught the rapture theory.... prove to me that the first Christians taught the rapture theory..... and i will prove to YOU when it first began to be taught. and don't give me the crap about Paul saying we'll disappear in the twinkling of an eye..... no... prove the TEACHING of the rapture theory prior to the 1500s
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german5 The 'proof' is that the many verses about the Rapture where in the bible since the very beginning. Who said what prior to the 1500's I couldn't say and I have no wish to get into a dry bones argument with you, that would serve no useful purpose. Besides which what Paul said is as relevant today as it was when he first wrote it. Who are you to say otherwise.
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The 'proof' is that the many verses about the Rapture where in the bible since the very beginning. Who said what prior to the 1500's I couldn't say and I have no wish to get into a dry bones argument with you, that would serve no useful purpose. Besides which what Paul said is as relevant today as it was when he first wrote it. Who are you to say otherwise.
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Fail. As a supposed eschatology expert..... this statement completely fails.

I was catholic first part of my life, and non denominational christian for the next major portion of my life, and spent hours upon hours upon hours debating scripture, its meaning and application.

This response of yours however, is a typical response that christians give when they don't have any answer, and have no way to answer....... same as well, we don't know god's ways. It's not up to us to say.... blah blah blah.

You pick and choose your conversations, i get that..... but please at least have the authenticity to say "I don't know but I am willing to learn "
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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prove to me that the hebrews taught the rapture theory.... prove to me that the first christians taught the rapture theory..... and i will prove to YOU when it first began to be taught. and don't give me the crap about paul saying we'll disappear in the twinkling of an eye..... no... prove the TEACHING of the rapture theory prior to the 1500s
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


can't do it, can ya
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

has it ever occurred to you that you're NOT part of the body of Christ? The fact you've been blinded to rapture just means you're not part of it, not that it's untrue ... MILLIONS are however...don't take the mark...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


sadly for you, you don't know what the body of christ even is........I won't take the mark. but you already have.
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no, actually I'm part of the body of Christ and understand rapture... you, apparently have been blinded or you would know these things... don't take the mark...
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has it ever occurred to you that you're NOT part of the body of Christ? The fact you've been blinded to rapture just means you're not part of it, not that it's untrue ... MILLIONS are however...don't take the mark...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


sadly for you, you don't know what the body of christ even is........I won't take the mark. but you already have.
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no, actually I'm part of the body of Christ and understand rapture... you, apparently have been blinded or you would know these things... don't take the mark...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


oh for heaven's sake.... I understand what you have been TAUGHT about the rapture. If you didn't have other people telling you what to believe, what would you do? what would you believe? How would you live your life, without others telling you how you should be... how you should think, how you should believe?

How much do you follow the words of Jesus? really..... how much? most every christian i know, and have know, do not even know the basics of Jesus' teachings.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Actually my thoughts on rapture have changed over the years... the more I understood GODS direction for me to follow Paul, the more I came to understand the separation between the priesthood and the body of Christ... earthly and heavenly promises... all the promises to the priesthhood are earthly, all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly...
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sadly for you, you don't know what the body of christ even is........I won't take the mark. but you already have.
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no, actually I'm part of the body of Christ and understand rapture... you, apparently have been blinded or you would know these things... don't take the mark...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


oh for heaven's sake.... I understand what you have been TAUGHT about the rapture. If you didn't have other people telling you what to believe, what would you do? what would you believe? How would you live your life, without others telling you how you should be... how you should think, how you should believe?

How much do you follow the words of Jesus? really..... how much? most every christian i know, and have know, do not even know the basics of Jesus' teachings.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Actually my thoughts on rapture have changed over the years... the more I understood GODS direction for me to follow Paul, the more I came to understand the separation between the priesthood and the body of Christ... earthly and heavenly promises... all the promises to the priesthhood are earthly, all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly...
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well, you just cemented your status.. you choose to follow Paul's teachings over Jesus'

my best wishes to you friend.......
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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well, you just cemented your status.. you choose to follow Paul's teachings over Jesus'

my best wishes to you friend.......
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backc So Jesus Christ who created the universe, and who knows how many hairs there are upon your head at any time, isn't good enough for you...you know better. The Lord picked Paul and if you don't like it then that's your problem.
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So Jesus Christ who created the universe, and who knows how many hairs there are upon your head at any time, isn't good enough for you...you know better. The Lord picked Paul and if you don't like it then that's your problem.
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please stop with your metaphoric pictures.... it's not becoming of you.

You say the "Lord picked Paul" but..... you don't know. You've been told that......

If you want to get into a discussion about Paul ...... that is a whole nother topic.

If "the Lord" picked Paul.... then why are paul's teachings completely against Jesus' teachings?
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The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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So Jesus Christ who created the universe, and who knows how many hairs there are upon your head at any time, isn't good enough for you...you know better. The Lord picked Paul and if you don't like it then that's your problem.
 Quoting: Judethz


You say the "Lord picked Paul" but..... you don't know. You've been told that......

 Quoting: Satya Revelations


german1 Er yeah, I have been told that. It's in the bible.


Act 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Act 9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
Act 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
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no, actually I'm part of the body of Christ and understand rapture... you, apparently have been blinded or you would know these things... don't take the mark...
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oh for heaven's sake.... I understand what you have been TAUGHT about the rapture. If you didn't have other people telling you what to believe, what would you do? what would you believe? How would you live your life, without others telling you how you should be... how you should think, how you should believe?

How much do you follow the words of Jesus? really..... how much? most every christian i know, and have know, do not even know the basics of Jesus' teachings.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Actually my thoughts on rapture have changed over the years... the more I understood GODS direction for me to follow Paul, the more I came to understand the separation between the priesthood and the body of Christ... earthly and heavenly promises... all the promises to the priesthhood are earthly, all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


well, you just cemented your status.. you choose to follow Paul's teachings over Jesus'

my best wishes to you friend.......
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Jesus had 2 three year ministries, one with the 12 (the priesthood), which was rejected...and one with Paul who brought us the dispensation of grace... I follow who GOD tells me to follow... Best wishes to you also... and I mean that... it's going to be an awful 7 years for those here... I think we can agree on that..
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oh for heaven's sake.... I understand what you have been TAUGHT about the rapture. If you didn't have other people telling you what to believe, what would you do? what would you believe? How would you live your life, without others telling you how you should be... how you should think, how you should believe?

How much do you follow the words of Jesus? really..... how much? most every christian i know, and have know, do not even know the basics of Jesus' teachings.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Actually my thoughts on rapture have changed over the years... the more I understood GODS direction for me to follow Paul, the more I came to understand the separation between the priesthood and the body of Christ... earthly and heavenly promises... all the promises to the priesthhood are earthly, all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


well, you just cemented your status.. you choose to follow Paul's teachings over Jesus'

my best wishes to you friend.......
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Jesus had 2 three year ministries, one with the 12 (the priesthood), which was rejected...and one with Paul who brought us the dispensation of grace... I follow who GOD tells me to follow... Best wishes to you also... and I mean that... it's going to be an awful 7 years for those here... I think we can agree on that..
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BS..... God does not change...... God is the same eternally, from beginning to end if there is such a thing. God does not change..... he doesn't change the rules... he doesn't change demands...... he doesn't change. good luck with paul. you shouldnt have left Jesus.
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The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Actually my thoughts on rapture have changed over the years... the more I understood GODS direction for me to follow Paul, the more I came to understand the separation between the priesthood and the body of Christ... earthly and heavenly promises... all the promises to the priesthhood are earthly, all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


well, you just cemented your status.. you choose to follow Paul's teachings over Jesus'

my best wishes to you friend.......
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Jesus had 2 three year ministries, one with the 12 (the priesthood), which was rejected...and one with Paul who brought us the dispensation of grace... I follow who GOD tells me to follow... Best wishes to you also... and I mean that... it's going to be an awful 7 years for those here... I think we can agree on that..
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BS..... God does not change...... God is the same eternally, from beginning to end if there is such a thing. God does not change..... he doesn't change the rules... he doesn't change demands...... he doesn't change. good luck with paul. you shouldnt have left Jesus.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


GOD sent his message to us through Paul... sorry you don't believe GOD...
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ok....... looks like OP is done with me...... deleting my posts.

Sorry guys..... imma outa here... thanks OP !

God loves you !
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The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Sooner than many people think ? Many Many Many people thought it should have happened already and you can read all about the two dozen or so Dates that were set in the last 8 years. All those dates have come and gone. Looks like we are riding out the Trib and will probably die for our faith or once the free stuff stops coming in the mail join the New World order and its Leader.
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nordicspear It's hardly my fault that some people have been date setting when they shouldn't have. But we are expected to know the season. In the USA alone it is estimated that around 50,000,000 people have lost their jobs in the last 6 weeks. You are just whistling past the graveyard foolishly thinking that the lockdowns will be lifted and in a few weeks life will continue on as it has before.

Who knows, perhaps when you are digging through some farmers fields in mid winter for a few half rotten turnips to keep body and soul together, you might finally come to your senses.
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I AGREE!

This Covid thing is the biggest deception the world has ever witnessed.

The purpose? Destroy the economy of the last free nations and have the Globalist step in, declaring a One World Government, under the UN umbrella.

America has been in death throes for some time. The WHO is calling the shots now. I doubt there will ever be a return to the old ways.

THIS IS THEM SEEKING TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS, AND OBAMA AND THE POPE WERE TWO KEY PLAYERS IN THIS IN 2015 IN NEW YORK AT THE UN ASSEMBLY.

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oh for heaven's sake.... I understand what you have been TAUGHT about the rapture. If you didn't have other people telling you what to believe, what would you do? what would you believe? How would you live your life, without others telling you how you should be... how you should think, how you should believe?

How much do you follow the words of Jesus? really..... how much? most every christian i know, and have know, do not even know the basics of Jesus' teachings.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Actually my thoughts on rapture have changed over the years... the more I understood GODS direction for me to follow Paul, the more I came to understand the separation between the priesthood and the body of Christ... earthly and heavenly promises... all the promises to the priesthhood are earthly, all the promises to the body of Christ are heavenly...
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You are being DECEIVED.

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"Alive and remain" already matches what Jesus said "endure till the end" (Matthew 24:13).

"Lord in the air"? Got that covered too.

Matthew 24

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


Mark 13

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Priesthood waiting for tribulation

Acts 15:5
"But said they, certain of the sect of the Pharisees, which did believe, rose up, saying that it was needful to circumcis them, and to command them to keep the Law of Moses."

James 2:10
"For whosoever shall keep the whole Law, and yet faileth in one point, he is guilty of all."

Deut 7:11
"Keep thou therefore the commandments, and the ordinances, and the laws, which I command thee this day to do them."

Deut 8:11
"Beware that thou forget not the Lord thy God, not keeping his commandments and his laws, and his ordinances, which I command thee this day:"


Body of Christ
waiting for rapture

1 Corinthians 6:12
"All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not profitable. I may do all things, but I will not be brought under the power of any thing."

1 Corinthians 10:23
"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not"

you have no discernment, you're arrogance has blinded you...Don't take the mark...
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So you think that Gentiles are a "special priesthood"?

Where does Jesus say that ANY Believers - especially Gentiles - escape tribulation?
How about Paul?

They don't. We escape WRATH / punishment for non-Belief.

You Pauline folks try to say it's a "mystery" hidden in the texts.

"Discernment" is EXACTLY what you Paulinist folks are lacking.

Scripture PROVES...

1. There's ONE Gospel - taught to all - by ALL the Apostles including Paul.
There's no other way to be "graffed into Israel".
"Neither Hebrew nor Gentile".

Thread: Bible - ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul

2. The 10 Commamdments are still valid, whether on their own or thru Jesus' 2 summary commandments.

3. Peter's experience with the Centurian, and the fact that the Apostles sent Barnabas to FIND Paul and tell him of the decision negates ANY argument you have about "circumcision".
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"Alive and remain" already matches what Jesus said "endure till the end" (Matthew 24:13).

"Lord in the air"? Got that covered too.

Matthew 24

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


Mark 13

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

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Priesthood waiting for tribulation

Acts 15:5
"But said they, certain of the sect of the Pharisees, which did believe, rose up, saying that it was needful to circumcis them, and to command them to keep the Law of Moses."

James 2:10
"For whosoever shall keep the whole Law, and yet faileth in one point, he is guilty of all."

Deut 7:11
"Keep thou therefore the commandments, and the ordinances, and the laws, which I command thee this day to do them."

Deut 8:11
"Beware that thou forget not the Lord thy God, not keeping his commandments and his laws, and his ordinances, which I command thee this day:"


Body of Christ
waiting for rapture

1 Corinthians 6:12
"All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not profitable. I may do all things, but I will not be brought under the power of any thing."

1 Corinthians 10:23
"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not"

you have no discernment, you're arrogance has blinded you...Don't take the mark...
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


So you think that Gentiles are a "special priesthood"?

Where does Jesus say that ANY Believers - especially Gentiles - escape tribulation?
How about Paul?

They don't. We escape WRATH / punishment for non-Belief.

You Pauline folks try to say it's a "mystery" hidden in the texts.

"Discernment" is EXACTLY what you Paulinist folks are lacking.

Scripture PROVES...

1. There's ONE Gospel - taught to all - by ALL the Apostles including Paul.
There's no other way to be "graffed into Israel".
"Neither Hebrew nor Gentile".

Thread: Bible - ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul

2. The 10 Commamdments are still valid, whether on their own or thru Jesus' 2 summary commandments.

3. Peter's experience with the Centurian, and the fact that the Apostles sent Barnabas to FIND Paul and tell him of the decision negates ANY argument you have about "circumcision".
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so you're saying all things were lawful for the priesthood... you would make Jesus a liar...
please show me where that is...
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Jesus had 2 three year ministries, one with the 12 (the priesthood), which was rejected...and one with Paul who brought us the dispensation of grace... I follow who GOD tells me to follow... Best wishes to you also... and I mean that... it's going to be an awful 7 years for those here... I think we can agree on that..
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"Dispensation of grace"?

The verse reads "dispensation of THE grace of God".

You Paulinists think that Paul had "cornered the market" on grace.

He didn't. It's mentioned all through the Old Testament.

Noah received God's grace - so did Moses.

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Jesus had the Father's grace.

Luke 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Gentiles are 'KINGS' and 'PRIESTS'.

HOW/WHY:

1. They experienced Anti-Love (evoL).

They lived with it, in its presence, they know what evoL looks like, what it results in, and they are now FIT AND EDUCATED having experienced it first hand.

They are KINGS because they know how to lead, righteously (rightly/fairly) because they experienced evoL, self serving, Anti-Loving people rule over them.

They are also PRIESTS, knowing how to 'council', advise, instruct, guide, others so they don't stray from they 'System of Self Regulation of God (Love) (a RIGHT/FAIR/JUST system of regulation).


Most believers did die (live taken from them and they were frozen in 'death'), to be released from death in the SECOND RESURECTION (first was the barley harves (old testament believers, third is those that don't take the MACHINE CODE DNA INJECTION and The Mark which are killed DURING the 'tribulation'. (can't have unvaccinated people running around possibly infecting everyone with mutated viruses)


Believers that believe BEFORE the 'rapture' date, are not going to have to stay and fight for their life during the tribulation... YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GUNS, BULLETS OR FOOD to do that. NEITHER ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIDE FROM THE A.I. ROBOT HORDE with heat vision from space and everything else! Those that die during that time will be raised turning the THIRD RESURRECTION (at the fall feasts, 7 years after the SECOND resurrection)

The only ones that survive are the 144,000 Israelite's that are somehow going to hide out somewhere that are just about to die before GODS -RETURN- TO EARTH. (when the SECOND ressurection/rapture happens, he only comes to the clouds, not all the way down, and we meet him there)
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Jesus had 2 three year ministries, one with the 12 (the priesthood), which was rejected...and one with Paul who brought us the dispensation of grace... I follow who GOD tells me to follow... Best wishes to you also... and I mean that... it's going to be an awful 7 years for those here... I think we can agree on that..
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


"Dispensation of grace"?

The verse reads "dispensation of THE grace of God".

You Paulinists think that Paul had "cornered the market" on grace.

He didn't. It's mentioned all through the Old Testament.

Noah received God's grace - so did Moses.

[link to www.blueletterbible.org (secure)]

Jesus had the Father's grace.

Luke 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


...so according to you... Moses, who was given the law to give to Israel, was under grace and didn't need to keep the law...? if ALL things were lawful for the priesthood, why GIVE them the law and COMMAND them to keep it...? you contradict GOD and JESUS...

do you go to temple, keep the feast days, keep the dietary laws, do you go to a priest or a pastor, do you keep ALL 615 laws, rules, regulations and statues... are you under the law or grace...

If you were part of the body of Christ, you'd know these things... don't take the mark...

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