Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

Would you like, right this very moment, to be most astonished to find yourself suddenly seized away without warning,
and then to find yourself suddenly standing before Jesus Christ, and then to remain with Him forever thereafter?
Right now. Can you say Yes?

Yes, Lord willing!

Maranatha!

Amen!

In talmud it's forbidden to calculate end times, because it leads to insanity.

the question is...

isn't it possible GOD has revealed things to MILLIONS of believers and opened there eyes to this understanding... but not your's, is that possible?

is that a possibility...? yes or no

………...……... The Rapture is fast approaching...……….

……….Do not listen to the wolfs in sheep's clothing who have crept into the flock and hope to steal the blessed hope away from you.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

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ALL you have are theories / opinions to back up what you just said. Not ONE SINGLE Bible verse.

Jesus makes it CLEAR that Believers will face tribulation AND persecution in the End Times. They ARE NOT "new" Believers.

Go and READ the passages.

Matthew 13 & 24
Mark 13
Luke 17 & 21

Matthew 13 & 24

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Mark 13

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Luke 17 & 21

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Well no one ever denied that so I don't know why you are implying it. As I have said to you previously, when you keep repeating this point like a stuck record: Yes many million of Christians have suffered severe persecution during the ages and in the present day. But equally many millions of Christians have suffered either very little, or minor persecution during the ages and to the present day. So I hate to break it to you (again) but this is not an absolute requirement as you wrongly keep insisting.

Jesus Christ also makes it quite clear that the Rapture will happen, you're acting like a petulant little child when they don't get their own way. And you're temper tantrums will have even less effect on the matter than a fruit fly would in stopping a highballing express train.

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A plague of Locusts in India.

the question is...

isn't it possible GOD has revealed things to MILLIONS of believers and opened there eyes to this understanding... but not your's, is that possible?

is that a possibility...? yes or no

NOT when the so-called "understanding" violates scripture.

How many people have killed someone because SUPPOSEDLY "God said to"?

Neither Father God nor His Son would have a mother kill her children - a Dad kill his whole family - etc...

Satan is a deceiver. He'll do anything to get folks to DENY what either Father God OR His Son have said.

"Paul only" is a deception to do just that.

So why do you keep trying to sow discord as if the apostles where at each others throats, creating division where there either was none, or a few disagreements that got sorted out. Why are you against people getting right with the Lord while they are still blessed with a little time. People who listen to you will miss the Rapture and you will have to answer for it one day.

so YOU get to decide what understanding is right and what violates scripture...? is that what you're saying ...? sorry pal, you don't get to validate ANYTHING the Holy Spirit has shown to ANYBODY...

... so prove that YOU know GOD and not just scripture ... PROVE IT..! Quoting scripture doesn't mean you have ANY relationship with GOD... Satan knows scripture PERFECTLY ... knowing words in a book is MUCH different than being shown the proper understanding...

Do you see how stupid that sounds...? No one can "prove" what the spirit has shown them individually and no one has to "PROVE" anything to you, and only someone completely arrogant would assume it...

...and I'll say it again, the fact you can quote scripture means absolutely nothing without the Holy Spirit interpreting it for our understanding..., the Pharisee, Sadducee knew scripture perfectly ... and had NO CLUE who Jesus was. Has it ever occurred to you, others may have a profoundly different and deeper relationship with GOD than you??

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Where does Jesus Christ mention the rapture? What verse?

do you equate scripture knowledge with the Holy Spirit opening up our understanding... the rulers of Israel had PERFECT knowledge of scripture, but had ZERO idea who the Christ was... could this be you? Knowledge of scripture with no personal relationship...

I think anything posted in scripture must happen or else it is false. Since we know God is true then scripture will happen. The Holy Spirit will not go against truth and the scripture. Only our interpretation of those scriptures would be wrong but mostly scripture is logical and can easily to be applied.

Do you want to pick up the torch for Judethz and tell us where Christ said there would be a rapture using scripture?

it wouldn't matter what you were shown, it would never be enough ...

"they have eyes, but do not see, and ears, yet do not hear..."

it's not all about words in a letter ... the Pharisee had the words down perfectly...

Why don't you humor us. I also have a thread on the pretrib rapture. I welcome you to post there if you do not want to derail this thread of it's intended purpose.

Thread: Defending the Pre-trib rapture **** New and Improved

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But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly.

For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36

Thanks that was a nice post.

What day comes unexpectedly?

What seizes suddenly like a snare?

Counted worthy to escape all the things to come upon the earth?

Well that sounds great!

Yes Lord, please!

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Why would Jesus take you?

By your own words...

What day comes suddenly and unexpectedly like a snare?

Not the Glorious Appearing of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ...

So what then?

harpazo

1) to seize, carry off by force

2) to seize on, claim for one' s self eagerly

3) to snatch out or away


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Notice Luke is talking about the sames things as Mark 13 and Matthew 24. We will be in tribulation but after that we will not be part of the Wrath. Even Luke says we will be persecuted.

Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Luke 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. 13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 14S ettle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

The day of the Lord.