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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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You will not check in with Jesus and then go see YHWH.
You will see Jesus and know He is God
and you will not tell Him that He is not God.
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Funny how ONLY Thomas called Jesus "my God".

Here is a list of the people in the Bible who claim that Jesus is the Son of God, and then those who claim that he is God the Son. I will keep it simple and not list the verses that claim that Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ, the Son of Man, or the king of Israel. All these titles are synonymous.

Son of God

God Himself refers to Jesus as His Son: Matthew 2:15, 3:17, 17:5, Mk 1:11, 9:7,Luke 9:35

Jesus says that he is the Son of God: Mark 14:61-62, John 3:16, John 3:18, John 9:35, 10:36

The angel Gabriel says Jesus is the Son of God: Luke 1:35

Peter says that Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 16:16

John the Apostle says Jesus is the Son of God: John 20:31, 1 John 3:23, 4:15, 5:5

All the Apostles say Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 14:33, John 6:69

John the Baptist says Jesus is the Son of God: John 1:34

John Mark says Jesus is the Son of God: Mark 1:1

Paul says Jesus is the Son of God: Acts 9:20, Romans 1:4, 1 Corinthians 1:9, 2 Corinthians 1:19, Galatians 2:20, Hebrews 4:14

Nathanael says Jesus is the Son of God: John 1:49

Centurions says Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 27:54, Mark 15:39

satan says Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 4:3, 4:6, Luke 4:3

Demons say Jesus is the Son of God: Matthew 8:29, Mark 3:11, 5:7,Luke 4:41, 8:28

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People in the Bible who say Jesus IS God.

Thomas
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People in the Bible who say Jesus is "God the Son"

Nobody.
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Agreed. No argument. I would disagree with not one word of Scripture.

So why does Jesus repeatedly distinguish Himself as The Son of Man?
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Is the Son of Man the Son of God?

Yes... or... No...

?
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By Sooner you mean from now until 2000 yrs right?
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"Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."

Matthew 1:23


Jesus is "God with us," the Son of Man, the Son of God.

Yeshua.
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Imposter,

Do you love Jesus Christ?

Do you want to spend eternity with Jesus Christ?
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While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,

saying, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?" They said to Him, "The Son of David."

He said to them, "How then does David in the Spirit call Him 'Lord,' saying:

'The LORD said to my Lord,
"Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool"'?

"If David then calls Him 'Lord,' how is He his Son?"

And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore.


Matthew 22:41-46
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John 20:17 and John 17:3 blow your theology out of the water.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More
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I, the LORD,

Am the God of Israel.

I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.


God of Israel, the Savior

there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.

to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
.



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"Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."

Matthew 1:23


Jesus is "God with us," the Son of Man, the Son of God.

Yeshua.
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"God with us" because the Father SENT Him - the ONLY begotten SON.

Jesus' own words in the 4 Gospels, His use of phrases like "My Father", "My God", "the Father", "SENT Me", "the kingdom OF God" etc...tell me, and SHOULD tell other folks exactly who He is.

God Himself would NOT have spoken this way, and those terms, and the ones below, wouldn't even EXIST if Jesus was actually the Father Himself.

"the Son OF God" 47 times in the NT
"Son of the most High God" Mark 5:7
"Son of the Highest" Luke 1:32
"Son of the Father" 2 John 1:3
"Son of the Living God" Matthew 16:16 & John 6:69
"the Christ" Matthew 16:16 & John 6:69

"the Messiah" Daniel 9:25
"the Lamb OF God" John 1:29
"Holy One OF God" Mark 1:24

"advocate with the Father" John 2:1
"a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec" Hebrews 5:6
"one mediator between God and men" 1 Timothy 2:5

"the faithful witness" Revelation 1:5
"the first begotten of the dead" Revelation 1:5
"the prince of the kings of the earth" Revelation 1:5

"the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" Revelation 3:14

These are titles for Jesus....NOT THE FATHER HIMSELF
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Imposter,

Do you love Jesus Christ?

Do you want to spend eternity with Jesus Christ?
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While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,

saying, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?" They said to Him, "The Son of David."

He said to them, "How then does David in the Spirit call Him 'Lord,' saying:

'The LORD said to my Lord,
"Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool"'?

"If David then calls Him 'Lord,' how is He his Son?"


And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore.


Matthew 22:41-46
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John 20:17 and John 17:3 blow your theology out of the water.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More
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You answered nothing.

You cannot.

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Do you love Jesus Christ?

Do you want to spend eternity with Jesus Christ?

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Jesus asked "Servant-of-the-LORD,"

saying, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?" They said to Him, "The Son of David."

He said to them, "How then does David in the Spirit call Him 'Lord,' saying:

'The LORD said to my Lord,
"Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool"'?

"If David then calls Him 'Lord,' how is He his Son?"


And "Servant-of-the-LORD" was unable to answer Him a word.



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Is a quoted verse all you got?

lmao

Who sent Jesus?
Who TOLD Jesus what to say?
Who's WILL is it that Jesus does?
Who does Jesus pray to?
Who does Jesus SHOW us to pray to?
Who does Jesus give thanks to just before raising Lazarus?
Who gave Jesus power over heaven and earth?
Who is "God" / "the Father" / "He who sent me"...that Jesus mentions over 230 times in the 4 Gospels?
Who sits on the throne and hands the Scroll with Seven Seals to "the Lamb" in Revelation 5?
Who's "right hand" does Jesus sit at in heaven?
Who is it that Jesus had to return to in heaven?

The FATHER!
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Is the Son of Man the Son of God?

Yes... or... No... ?

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"If David then calls Him 'Lord,' how is He his Son?"

And "Servant-of-the-LORD" was unable to answer Him a word.

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God can.

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Is the Son of Man the Son of God?

Yes... or... No... ?

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Did Jesus LIE when He said....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Or how about when Jesus told Peter...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Or how about when Jesus told Mary...

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus doesn't lie so...

...the Son OF God IS NOT God Himself.
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"If David then calls Him 'Lord,' how is He his Son?"

And "Servant-of-the-LORD" was unable to answer Him a word.

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God can.

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It's funny how you "Jesus is God" folks are always claiming to have the Holy Spirit - yet you can't even understand basic understanding of scripture and the rammifications of your faulty "Jesus is God" doctrine?

"God" has to learn???

John 5:19 & John 8:28


5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

"God" doesn't know when He will return?

Matthew 24:36


Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

"God" gives thanks to Himself?

Luke 10:21 & John 11:41-42


Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

"God" sits at God's right hand?

Matthew 26:64, Mark 14:61-62


64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 14

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

"God" is 'GIVEN' authority?

Matthew 28:18


18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

"God" tells God what to say????

John 12:49-50


49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.



"God" prays to Himself?

Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17

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Is the Son of Man the Son of God?

Yes... or... No... ?

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Did Jesus LIE when He said....

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No.

Do you ever answer anything?

Ask yourself why not?
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It's funny how you
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You're funny.
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1. Do you love Jesus Christ?

2. Do you want to spend eternity with Jesus Christ?


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2 simple questions.


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It's fun

exposing you

naked.
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It's fun

exposing you

naked.
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It's even funnier exposing your trinitarian NONSENSE.

0. Jesus NEVER said..."I AM God".

1. Jesus NEVER said "pray to me" NOR "worship me".

2. Jesus NEVER said "pray to / worship" a "trinity".

3. Jesus NEVER said "pray to the Holy Spirit" NOR "worship the Holy Spirit".

4. Jesus NEVER said to pray to ANYONE other than the Father.
---Matthew 6 Luke 11 John 4

5. The Holy Spirit NEVER says "I am _______" and you shall ________. Only Jesus and the Father say such.
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It's funny that you cannot personally claim Jesus Christ.
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Do you love Jesus Christ?

Do you want to spend eternity with Jesus Christ?

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THEY LITERALLY CANNOT SAY IT...
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You believe that the Almighty Creator God

cannot stay there as YHWH Father God

and come here as Yeshua the Son of Man Son of God

and be everywhere at the same time as the Holy Spirit.

God can't you preach...

God can.

God did.

Yeshua.

God will.


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God of Israel, the Savior
there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior




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It's funny that you cannot personally claim Jesus Christ.
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Sure I can. That's why the Father has spoken to me.

WHY do you suppose the Holy Spirit had John WRITE these 2 verses?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;

for I am not yet ascended to my Father:

but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


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John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee

the only true God,

and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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"Jesus of Nazareth, every cult and every occultic group in the world says, never claimed that He was God. All the liberal theologians who have ever written all say that Jesus never claimed to be God and they are all liars."

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I supposedly "hate the word of the Lord" yet I post HUNDREDS of Bible verses????

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nordicspear Ha so we've finally got you to say something truthful. Like for instance the 10 long spammy posts that you recently made in an AC's Biblical thread that you disagreed with in just one & a half pages. And because AC's cannot edit their posts you totally ruined it under the guise of "being helpful."

The fact is that the verses you quote from your cut n' paste website (wherever it is) are at best only marginally relevant to the subject at hand, and that's when your not trying to morph the thread into something else to suit your own agenda.

You take a thousand words to say what a normal person can say in a hundred. I pity those around you who have to put up with your non stop drivel every day. Thread: Which bible?

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Jesus is the Son of God and He is also the Son of Man.
This is the entire point of His incarnation.
He is the bridge between the Father and us. God (in order to be a just Judge) HAD to come and walk in our shoes and be one of us. He would fully know the travails of lowly men trying to live on this planet. Jesus did and excelled as a workman and his parents adored Him.
While He is God's son, He had a dad here that taught Him carpentry and kept Him safe as a Child.
He is the Son of both God and Man. Our Advocate.
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Do you love Jesus Christ?

Do you want to spend eternity with Jesus Christ?

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THEY LITERALLY CANNOT SAY IT...
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I do not think that poster can say, "My Lord and my God!" because he does not believe that.

Maybe.. he is a brother in error. I hope so because otherwise .. well, I'd rather not say.

These verses (plus many more) reveal the DEITY of Jesus Christ.

Titus 2:13 Looking for the Blessed Hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

John 1:1-3 (THE WORD was God and was made flesh)
John 14 "He who has see ME has seen the Father."

2Peter 1:1 "To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ."
1Tim 3:16 ... " God was manifested in the flesh.."
Phil 2:5-7
etc, etc, etc.

Jesus is;
Fullness of the Godhead bodily
Alpha & Omega & The Almighty
Jesus is I AM
Jesus is LORD and GOD.
Immanuel - God with us
etc. etc. etc.

That poster missed these verses.
There is time to course-correct.
Not much time.. but hopefully enough time for him to reflect and pray.
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Can any of you simply post what specifically must happen for a rapture to occur?
I’m just curious if anyone actually knows. Use bible verses.
And be specific. What is the very next verse that must occur to bring us all closer to the rapture.
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there will be no Rapture;

it is nowhere to be found in the Word of God;

Jesus Christ will return to Earth
and rule for 1000 years,

and those of us that love Him and do God's will
will serve His ways and cleanse the Earth;

sorry;

no free ride out of here just yet;

God's people have a lot of work to do first,
trying to convert those last few that need God's love and light;

after 1000 years, we shall see what God does with the Earth then;

I think then it will be turned from Earth to Divine substance,

and the Evil Ones will be cast out into the void (space?)
forever more,

imprisoned and alone;

but that part is my opinion;

the Rapture, however, is nowhere to found in the Word of God

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