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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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^ I say Him.
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Do you..
If you..
If you..
If you..

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So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan,
who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come,
for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.


Revelation 12:9-11
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^ I say Him.
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Do you ...
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Why did Jesus Christ die for you?
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Testify.

By your own words...
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For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received,
or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!


2Corinthians 11:2-4
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A different gospel.
Some people will exchange the simple gospel for something different.
The different gospel suits their own mind, after receiving a DIFFERENT SPIRIT.
Then, this guy starts preaching it and begins to influence others by his title or style or boldness.
His preaching is corrupt and a deception.
But, he sounds so biblical.. and he is pushy.. and look, he has lots of followers so he must be right. Uh, no.

The Mormons have a different gospel.
That religion denies the deity of Jesus Christ.
Mormons teach that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers!
But look! Look at all the people who believe that huge lie!
Same with Jehovah's Witnesses.
They deny that Jesus is LORD and GOD.

Some "Christians" have a different gospel and a different spirit. Do not be deceived by their craftiness or because they cut and paste lines & lines of colored and bold type Bible verses.
Check their heart. Watch what they say and do.

What will be their end?
What will happen on Judgment Day when a "Christian" has a DIFFERENT SPIRIT and a different gospel?
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This gets the award for creepy Jesus picture!
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Even so, come Lord Jesus!

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Nobody will post a single Bible verse supporting a Pre-Trib rapture. Even stranger is no Early Church Father believed in a Pre-Trib Rapture and they had been taught by the apostles.
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For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:35,36

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Nobody did again..
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Nobody will post a single Bible verse supporting a Pre-Trib rapture. Even stranger is no Early Church Father believed in a Pre-Trib Rapture and they had been taught by the apostles.
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For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:35,36

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Nobody did again..
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Luke 21:35-36 has NOTHING TO DO with a pre-trib rapture.
WHEN do we "stand before the Son of Man"?????

At the FINAL Judgement.

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Where will those that Escape go, and Stand Before Him

... blah, blah by their many words

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In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion
;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5
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Where will those that Escape go, and Stand Before Him

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I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity


Seek the LORD

It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion
;


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Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10

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I believe Jesus.

Whatever happens happens anyway.

Even so, come LORD Jesus!

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For to me to live is Christ and to die is gain.
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When do you expect Jesus?
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Not for quite some time yet anyway, right?
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I bet you are surprised
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I bet you arrogantly condescending presuming my ignorance.
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takeheed blackcat For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

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kitty LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

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More intelligent people would listen to the rhetoric of rapture if the believers have elevated their credibility by accurately predicting major events with the bible before the supposed rapture like predicting the corona pandemic before the fact.
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bgrayblinkerrose Hey you want false prophets then listen to Billy Graham or the Pope, but be warned it will be to your own doom. Prophecy is a special calling from the Lord and as far as I am aware there are non on this earth at the present time. Like many I preach the word, and I must accept the reality that most people who hear me will either scoff like you, or ignore me.

Remember the story of the two thief's who where crucified with Jesus Christ, one accepted Him and the other did not. Like them you have two choices, either believe, or not.
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You lose credibility by calling Bill G a false prophet.
He has led thousands of souls to Jesus while you make a post every now and then to stir up trolls.
God may lead you in some things, but you are clearly ignorant in other things.
A word for the wise is sufficient.
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german7 Any one who visits with the Pope is a part of the beast system.
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Matthew 8

And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him

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Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
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Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
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Deuteronomy 4

30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.


Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
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bread
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watergirls I'd much sooner believe what the Bible says, than what people like you say.

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
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rls: I'd much sooner believe what the Bible says, than what people like you say.

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
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WHY do you suppose the passage begins with...

..."To the church in Philadelphia"?????

WHY do you suppose the verse DOES NOT ADDRESS all OTHER "Believers"???

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R. Trench (1807-1886) a contemporary of George Muller, wrote:"...the Philadelphian church...to be kept in temptation, not to be exempted from temptation..." (Seven Churches of Asia, p. 183).


I.T. Beckwith (1843-1936) a contemporary of Theodor Zahn, wrote: “The Philadelphians...are promised that they shall be carried in safety through the great trial [Rev. 3:10], they shall
not fall." (The Apocalypse of John, p. 484).

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0. There's no mention of a "rapture" in the Revelation "sequence of events". The verse to the church in Philadelphia is doesn't mean a "rapture" of all Believers before Tribulation. An event that "stupendous" would SURELY have been mentioned by Jesus - to John.

1. Jesus never said that Believers will miss Tribulation. Luke 21:36 is taken out of context for the "rapture".

2. Both Peter and John wrote epistles AFTER Paul wrote his. A "rapture" - IF it had been revealed to Paul - would have been mentioned by them. Yet they say NOTHING about "it".

3. The idea of a "rapture" being "hidden" in the scriptures for 1800+ years is therefore erroneous. It's a deception to "divide" the body of Christ. "Paul ONLY for gentiles" divides the body of Christ.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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rls: I'd much sooner believe what the Bible says, than what people like you say.

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
 Quoting: Judethz


WHY do you suppose the passage begins with...

..."To the church in Philadelphia"?????

WHY do you suppose the verse DOES NOT ADDRESS all OTHER "Believers"???
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whitebow3 It's quite simple really, if the verse/s to the Church in Philadelphia where meant to be private then they would not have been published in the Bible, and the same goes for the messages to the other Churches.

It's commonly accepted that the messages where published to serve as a guide to future Churches of things/practices that the Lord approves of and of things/practices that He does not approve of.
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I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity


Seek the LORD

It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion
;



Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10


I believe Jesus.

Whatever happens happens anyway.

Even so, come LORD Jesus!


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When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
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rls: I'd much sooner believe what the Bible says, than what people like you say.

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
 Quoting: Judethz


WHY do you suppose the passage begins with...

..."To the church in Philadelphia"?????

WHY do you suppose the verse DOES NOT ADDRESS all OTHER "Believers"???

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ebow3: It's quite simple really, if the verse/s to the Church in Philadelphia where meant to be private then they would not have been published in the Bible, and the same goes for the messages to the other Churches.

It's commonly accepted that the messages where published to serve as a guide to future Churches of things/practices that the Lord approves of and of things/practices that He does not approve of.
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Incorrect ASSumption.

There's NO NEED to address each church individually IF all the things said applied to ALL Believers.

On TOP of that - the "hour of temptation" can EASILY mean the "acceptance of an antichrist / lying spirit as God / Jesus" - at ANYTIME. NOT JUST during the End Times.

The Seven churches existed in John's time - not now in modern times.
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Incorrect ASSumption. kitty So what's with the florid language?

There's NO NEED to address each church individually IF all the things said applied to ALL Believers.
blackcat Well obviously Jesus Christ thought differently didn't He? That ones above my pay scale so if you've a problem with that then take it up with the Lord.

On TOP of that - the "hour of temptation" can EASILY mean the "acceptance of an antichrist / lying spirit as God / Jesus" - at ANYTIME. NOT JUST during the End Times.
blackpuma2 Hum, there must be a glitch in the matrix, you actually said something sensible.

The Seven churches existed in John's time - not now in modern times.
ooowalrus Thank you Captain Obvious.
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When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
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bridea Amen.





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