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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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NONSENSE

NO "rapture".
Jesus only returns ONCE.

The "tares" get taken first.

Matthew 13:37-43

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.



Matthew 24 states the SAME thing using the times of Noah as the example.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.



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3 Gospel acct's where Jesus states that AFTER tribulation...


Matthew 24

29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


Mark 13

24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.


Luke 21

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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the body of Christ is to follow GODS instructions through Paul... why do you not believe GODS word?
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the body of Christ is to follow GODS instructions through Paul... why do you not believe GODS word?
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judec Because they think that they know better. They hate Paul because he comes out very clearly against the abominations that are so prevalent in the demon riddled 'churches' that will be left to face God's wrath, when all the believers who have been eagerly waiting for the Lord's return have been snatched away.
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If you want to be raptured, stay in your home, under lockdown.
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:yellowdress Great events will be happening on this earth in the coming days and months. Stay awake the Lord can return to meet us in the clouds at any moment.


1 Thessalonians 5
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

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We don't escape Tribulation.

We escape WRATH.

You folks seem to think that there's 7 years of WRATH coming.

There isn't.

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"who are still alive and are left"

THAT'S the KEY phrase here. AFTER the tribulation.

NO "rapture".
Jesus only returns ONCE.

The "tares" get taken first.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36068915


:german5 You are being dishonest by quoting just a few words from KJV 1 Thess. 4:17. When the whole verse says something quite different.

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
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Dishonest?

Compare the passages - false teacher.
BOTH describe Jesus RETURN to earth.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


1 Thessalonians 4

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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Have you considered that coronavirus is the rapture?
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More intelligent people would listen to the rhetoric of rapture if the believers have elevated their credibility by accurately predicting major events with the bible before the supposed rapture like predicting the corona pandemic before the fact.

The fact that many avid self proclaimed believers of Jesus here have continuously making failed predictions of the rapture could only mean the believers don't really know what they're talking about. They have fervent faith on their speculation about rapture, but they don't have the spirit of knowledge that typically accompany a true prophet or an advanced initiate. Only lack of self evaluation can keep a fervent believer to be unaware of their lack of knowledge and keep proclaiming their emotionally supported doctrine of rapture as if having a deeply emotional investment on the doctrine is the proof of the truth.
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More intelligent people would listen to the rhetoric of rapture if the believers have elevated their credibility by accurately predicting major events with the bible before the supposed rapture like predicting the corona pandemic before the fact.
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bgrayblinkerrose Hey you want false prophets then listen to Billy Graham or the Pope, but be warned it will be to your own doom. Prophecy is a special calling from the Lord and as far as I am aware there are non on this earth at the present time. Like many I preach the word, and I must accept the reality that most people who hear me will either scoff like you, or ignore me.

Remember the story of the two thief's who where crucified with Jesus Christ, one accepted Him and the other did not. Like them you have two choices, either believe, or not.
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More intelligent people would listen to the rhetoric of rapture if the believers have elevated their credibility by accurately predicting major events with the bible before the supposed rapture like predicting the corona pandemic before the fact.
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:bgray::blinker:rose Hey you want false prophets then listen to Billy Graham or the Pope, but be warned it will be to your own doom. Prophecy is a special calling from the Lord and as far as I am aware there are non on this earth at the present time. Like many I preach the word, and I must accept the reality that most people who hear me will either scoff like you, or ignore me.

Remember the story of the two thief's who where crucified with Jesus Christ, one accepted Him and the other did not. Like them you have two choices, either believe, or not.
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You lose credibility by calling Bill G a false prophet.
He has led thousands of souls to Jesus while you make a post every now and then to stir up trolls.
God may lead you in some things, but you are clearly ignorant in other things.
A word for the wise is sufficient.
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Some graduate at the end and some do not , has always been that way . The universe has no bias . Opportunities present and are taken or rejected but we can be sure of one thing , opportunities will come again . We are all on the same path , none are more special than another . Is one car closer to a destination better than another ? The boook of enoch made things very clear , for those on the path to god , perservere until the LAST DAY and you will be released .
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:german4: That's an incredibly blasé attitude to have regarding the fate of your soul, do you really not care?

Hebrews9 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

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It's a mature understanding of how the universe works judeth . Know what is before thee and the rest will be revealed to thee . As above so below . The universe offers an infinity of opportunities to remember god . All are one and one are all . The universe is also impersonal , it has no care whatsoever for little separate pieces of consciousness .
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You lose credibility by calling Bill G a false prophet.
He has led thousands of souls to Jesus while you make a post every now and then to stir up trolls.
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blinkerrose Well then what's he doing being all buddy buddy with the Pope? I'll tell you, he is paying homage to the false prophet.

And what's all this about him having led thousand's of souls to Jesus, how do you know? Just because a lot of people say so does not make it so.

Luke 6:26 26Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.
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Bible tards don't get that their book has been altered. We will have Bible tards 2000 years from now rambling about the Rapture.
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Keep telling yourself that... That's just your excuse to not accept what Yeshua did for you on the cross.

But when it happens I hope you have time to repent.
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Thank you for all the abuse you suffer for the truth... many crowns await you my sister... and yes, soon
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:judethe: Thanks guys.
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Thank you for your post OP. The end days indeed
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:bridec:...……. The days of plenty are over....…….:bridea:

The days of grinding poverty and unimageable hardship are nearly upon us. The Corona Virus is just on of many manmade plagues that can be unleashed upon us at any time. Except for a few, all the rest of our leaders have made their deal with the devil. He wants to drag you down to hell with him, and if you are still here after the Rapture it will be because of your wilful blindness.

You have still been blessed with a little time, so don't waste it. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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It is to bad that most of you "bible thumpers" on here, don't actually know your Bibles.
You just spew the same old dribble that your group believes or that some you tube idiot thought up.

We are not even near the Beginning of this stuff yet. This is just "normal" stuff for this world.
Lots of Plagues in History, much worse than this one, and it was not "the END Times". So get over it.
Learn what is really coming first and then when it finally happens, then you can say "yes, this is the start of the End Times", and be correct.
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Typical Coward post. Since you know so much about the Bible and apparently most of us don't why don't you enlighten us with your knowledge. Let us know what is coming fist and when we can expect end times. I cant wait to hear what nonsense dribble escapes your mouth thought up by your group. It will probably make for some good humor, i could use a laugh right now. The only idiot here is you, let me know when you write a 1200 page book over 3400 years old where archaeology confirms its historical accuracy.
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It's a mature understanding of how the universe works judeth . Know what is before thee and the rest will be revealed to thee . As above so below . The universe offers an infinity of opportunities to remember god . All are one and one are all . The universe is also impersonal , it has no care whatsoever for little separate pieces of consciousness .
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smiling That sure is not what the bible says.

Isaiah 49:13 Sing, O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into singing, O mountains: for the LORD hath comforted his people, and will have mercy upon his afflicted.

Psalm 96:11-13 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof….
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You lose credibility by calling Bill G a false prophet.
He has led thousands of souls to Jesus while you make a post every now and then to stir up trolls.
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:blinker:rose Well then what's he doing being all buddy buddy with the Pope? I'll tell you, he is paying homage to the false prophet.

And what's all this about him having led thousand's of souls to Jesus, how do you know? Just because a lot of people say so does not make it so.

Luke 6:26 26Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.
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But you saying so does?
You know his heart?
You know others?
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But you saying so does?
You know his heart?
You know others?
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redfalcon Who knows even their own heart, much less anyone else's but the Lord.

However I do know what I see and hear and it ain't good as regards BG.
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You lose credibility by calling Bill G a false prophet.
He has led thousands of souls to Jesus while you make a post every now and then to stir up trolls.
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:blinker:rose Well then what's he doing being all buddy buddy with the Pope? I'll tell you, he is paying homage to the false prophet.

And what's all this about him having led thousand's of souls to Jesus, how do you know? Just because a lot of people say so does not make it so.

Luke 6:26 26Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.
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Wow.
You said it, Judethz.

Thousands of church-y Americans love Billy G and never think beyond his facade.
Most false prophets have a charming veneer.
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^ Why do you quote this?

Why is Scripture not sufficient? Why is this necessary? What does this add?

This says nothing requiring new revelation from Christ by this man. This is vanity.
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We don't escape Tribulation.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

That verse, that you do not quote, refers to every believer in this world always,
because this world is against the Testimony of Jesus Christ and those that Testify to Jesus Christ.

That verse does not say that The Church goes into The Tribulation.
THAT is your interpretation and opinion of that verse that you impose upon that verse as its meaning.
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^ Why do you quote this?

Why is Scripture not sufficient? Why is this necessary? What does this add?

This says nothing requiring new revelation from Christ by this man. This is vanity.
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flo6awbow I've removed it, there seems to be a thing just lately of posting stuff that sounds like it's biblical, but in fact has been written by someone with the intention to deceive. Many of the people reading this thread don't know too much about the bible and the last thing that they need is needless confusion when the destiny of their souls is at stake.
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Dishonest?

Compare the passages - false teacher.
BOTH describe Jesus RETURN to earth.

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We don't escape Tribulation.

We escape WRATH.

You folks seem to think that there's 7 years of WRATH coming.

There isn't.
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german7 You call yourself Servant-of-the-LORD, but to be honest about it you sound more like a Pharisee to me. Yet another person who refuses to accept what the bible says in clear language. The fact of the matter is that death can strike anyone of us at any time, and if you are not right with the Lord before then, then you will be going the hell along with so many others that the bible says that it will have to be enlarged because it is too small. So just which LORD is it that you really serve?
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We don't escape Tribulation.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

That verse, that you do not quote, refers to every believer in this world always,
because this world is against the Testimony of Jesus Christ and those that Testify to Jesus Christ.

That verse does not say that The Church goes into The Tribulation.
THAT is your interpretation and opinion of that verse that you impose upon that verse as its meaning.
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Really? "endure till the end".
Let's compare what Paul and Jesus both say here below.

1 Thessalonians

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


NOW then... notice how Verses 15 & 17 match Jesus below....

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

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Notice that Verse 16 is pretty much EXACTLY what Jesus says in His Gospel descriptions BELOW.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


Mark 13

24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.


Luke 21

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

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german7: You call yourself Servant-of-the-LORD, but to be honest about it you sound more like a Pharisee to me. Yet another person who refuses to accept what the bible says in clear language. The fact of the matter is that death can strike anyone of us at any time, and if you are not right with the Lord before then, then you will be going the hell along with so many others that the bible says that it will have to be enlarged because it is too small. So just which LORD is it that you really serve?
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What the Bible says?

Jesus CLEARLY states that we WILL SEE tribulation.

Jesus CLEARLY states that He doesn't return UNTIL just BEFORE the "Wrath".

Read through this passage. I've added breaks at "paragraph parts" to make it easier to understand.

Matthew 24:4-31

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All* these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.

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the body of Christ is to follow GODS instructions through Paul... why do you not believe GODS word?
 Quoting: freedomsnotfree1


Paul ONLY? BULLSHIITE.

Jesus said He was sent to Israel...BUT...

Jesus denied / refused NO ONE.

The "crumbs" / Caananite woman.
The centurion.
The Samaritans.

And notice this - what Father God told Isaiah - and was repeated in Matthew.

Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

Matthew 12

15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

16 And charged them that they should not make him known:

17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,

18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

19 He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.

20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory.

21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.


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german7: You call yourself Servant-of-the-LORD, but to be honest about it you sound more like a Pharisee to me. Yet another person who refuses to accept what the bible says in clear language. The fact of the matter is that death can strike anyone of us at any time, and if you are not right with the Lord before then, then you will be going the hell along with so many others that the bible says that it will have to be enlarged because it is too small. So just which LORD is it that you really serve?
 Quoting: Judethz


Here's another point - notice what the "souls" are told...

Revelation 6

9 And when he had opened the fifth
seal, I saw under the altar the souls of
them that were slain for the word of
God, and for the testimony which they
held:


10 And they cried with a loud voice,
saying, How long, O Lord, holy and
true, dost thou not judge and avenge our
blood on them that dwell on the earth?


11 And white robes were given unto
every one of them; and it was said unto
them, that they should rest yet for a little
season, until their fellowservants also and
their brethren, that should be killed as
they were, should be fulfilled.

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There is a rapture,but no pre tribulation rapture.
And Trump is a globalist pawn and trojan horse,and 'Q' is blatant controlled opposition propaganda.

Oh dear,I'm sure just these two sentences are going to get OP and her fellow fundy/holly roller knickers in a twist.

This is why so many sane and rational Christians are leaving the churches.The churches these days are largely populated by deeply brainwashed nut jobs,that think they've got the inside track on gospel truth.

Know what pre tribulation rapture and Trump/Q have in common?

They are both deceptions that have got so many Christians fooled.And no amount of logical reasoning will work on these deluded fundies.They love their feel good lies so much,and they will desperately cling to them until the end.

Luckily soon we'll get to see Trump revealed as the charlatan he is.So that fairy tale will be nipped in the bud soon.

We're going to have to wait a bit longer for the fundies to realize the truth about their precious pre trib rapture doctrine though.

They'll probably only wake up and realize they were fooled when they find themselves living in a global police state ruled over by the man that claims to be God and demonstrate miracles.
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There's no rapture.

It's not even in the Bible.

It's an evangelists invention

You're all idiots.





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