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Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

 
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Blessed Hope.
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Many pre tribbers seem to think it's only the 'blessed hope' if the rapturing happens before the tribulation.
Yet more lunacy not backed by the bible in the sliightest.
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Only?

Why do you have to keep denigrating me and my Faith?

Does it prove you a True Believer in Jesus Christ?

ARE YOU A TRUE BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST?
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I've already answered that yes I am a believer.
Unlike many here however I am not a Trump zombie that thinks he and 'Q' were chosen by God to save the country.
Thats just wishful thinking,just like the pre tribulation rapture.

Nor am I the typical Holly Roller that wants to call anyone who disagree's with me a low down sinner.I also believe that God have us a brain for a reason,which is why I do not accept doctrines like Pre trib Rapture when they make zero sense,and run contrary to what scripture says in plain english
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Your not alone.3
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Do you think I am a friend of this world?

Believers shit on me!

You think the World approves me telling them of Jesus Christ?

Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link??
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More pre tribber twisting of scripture.
The passage is talking about being worthy to escape Hell fire and the bowl and other judgements meant for sinners sent down at the end of the tribulation.

It's not talking about escaping the entire tribulation,even if thats what you want to so desperately believe.
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But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy to escape
all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:34-36


In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.
For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.


Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion
;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5


"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Matthew 28:44-51


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth
.


Revelation 3:10


But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.
You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.
For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ


1 Thessalonians 5:4-9


I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them.
For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?


Romans 11:11-15


For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel
until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.


Romans 11:25


For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


Luke 21:35,36
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We're 'counted worthy to eascape' Hell and the judgements of God that are poured out on the sinners at the end of the tribulation.

It doesn't say we are to escape the entire tribulation.Thats just what pre trib rapture fanboys want to twist the meaning into.
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When the false doctrine of the rapture does not manifest itself and the mark of the beast is proposed, many will curse God to his face. They put more hope into a flesh salvation than a spiritual one. Friendship with the world is to be an enemy of God.
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Yeah just like the ol 'Trump/Q was chosen by God to save America'I think pre tribulation rapture is a a deception,that will cause many to stumble in the end.

When we find ourselves in the middle of the tribulation and there hasn't been a rapture like their pastor promised,many will likely stop believing entirely.

They will conclude that the entire bible is wrong,when it fact they were just fooled into believing a false doctrine
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
Sorry guys, there is evidence for a pre-tribulation rapture and it is Scriptural.

[link to water.cephas-news.com]

Why does the pre-trib stir people up so much? It is so strange, people get outright hostile and demonized when it comes to fighting against this concept. Very telling that there is something there that angers the spirits in many people within this world.
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bump
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Unlike many here however I am not a Trump zombie that thinks he and 'Q' were chosen by God to save the country.
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Why did you bring this to me and into this thread when I asked you about Jesus Christ?
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
Do you think I am a friend of this world?

Believers shit on me!

You think the World approves me telling them of Jesus Christ?

Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link??
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Triggered.
Calling you out on your beliefs is hardly 'shitting on you'
If your convictions are so easily shaken,perhaps you need to reassess them?
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There is no rapture. Especially for this generation and season. The servant is not greater than the master. Please think about that.
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Where have you been, brother? Most Christians throughout the world are going through persecution. I just heard about a Christian couple in Nigeria who were abducted by Muslims, them along with the entire wedding party. Nobody is saying we aren't going to experience persecution.
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Unlike many here however I am not a Trump zombie that thinks he and 'Q' were chosen by God to save the country.
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Why did you bring this to me and into this thread when I asked you about Jesus Christ?
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Because many Holly rollers here on GLP that think they and God are tight knit,seem to also often buy into the Trump/Q delusion.

So yeah I can't help but roll my eyes at such brain less cultists.

I've already answered and told you I believe in Jesus as Christ more then once.Are you too dim to even read now?
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
Sorry guys, there is evidence for a pre-tribulation rapture and it is Scriptural.

[link to water.cephas-news.com]

Why does the pre-trib stir people up so much? It is so strange, people get outright hostile and demonized when it comes to fighting against this concept. Very telling that there is something there that angers the spirits in many people within this world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30671160


bump
 Quoting: The Ghost of Comedian


It's very consistent...

In my opinion,
in my growing experience from a great many repeated observations here and elsewhere,
those that hate The Rapture
and so quickly and so thoroughly condemn all those that believe in the Rapture,
are not True believers in Jesus Christ looking for the promise of His coming
but, quite the contrary,
their peculiarly venomous hostility and attack against the Rapture and those that believe it
are evidence of its Truthfulness.

Rapture-haters are supposedly believers in Jesus Christ
that revile and condemn other believers in Jesus Christ
because those believers in Jesus Christ
believe and hope they will see Jesus Christ just a few years earlier
than what the Rapture-haters supposedly believe
and therefore condemn them as the worst of all evil...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21742615

So if you believe you will meet Jesus when the Rapture-hater believes he will see Jesus
you are good and true like the Rapture-hater,
but if you believe you will meet Jesus just a little bit earlier
then you are the most despicable rotten evil satanic filth imaginable and worth every condemnation and personal insult.
Now how could that possibly be? It simply is not true.
Those that believe the Rapture is true do not condemn those that do not believe that the Rapture is true.
Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.
Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.
The show nothing but contempt for those that do.
Draw your own conclusion.

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Many pre tribbers seem to think it's only the 'blessed hope' if the rapturing happens before the tribulation.
Yet more lunacy not backed by the bible in the sliightest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1058776


Only?

Why do you have to keep denigrating me and my Faith?

Does it prove you a True Believer in Jesus Christ?

ARE YOU A TRUE BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286


I've already answered that yes I am a believer.
Unlike many here however I am not a Trump zombie that thinks he and 'Q' were chosen by God to save the country.
Thats just wishful thinking,just like the pre tribulation rapture.

Nor am I the typical Holly Roller that wants to call anyone who disagree's with me a low down sinner.I also believe that God have us a brain for a reason,which is why I do not accept doctrines like Pre trib Rapture when they make zero sense,and run contrary to what scripture says in plain english
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Your not alone.3
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Glad to see some rare sanity in this sea of cultism lol.
Breath of fresh air indeed.
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When the false doctrine of the rapture does not manifest itself and the mark of the beast is proposed, many will curse God to his face. They put more hope into a flesh salvation than a spiritual one. Friendship with the world is to be an enemy of God.
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No, no, no...

Your hypothetical bullshit so you can say I wouldn't believe right but you would!

By what twisted logic do you think I will curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen and the mark of the beast is proposed?!

BULLDUNG.
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My hope and prayer is to have the faith of Jesus Christ. The same faith that lead him to be slaughtered on the cross for the glory of the Father and for the love of mankind.

I pray never to be presumptuous. Those who think they stand take heed lest you fall.
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
Do you think I am a friend of this world?

Believers shit on me!

You think the World approves me telling them of Jesus Christ?

Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286



Triggered.
Calling you out on your beliefs is hardly 'shitting on you'
If your convictions are so easily shaken,perhaps you need to reassess them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1058776


Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link?
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Not trying to rain on your parade or personal beliefs, but the catching away will occur AFTER Yaqqob's Trouble/Great Tribulation.
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IN YOUR OPINION.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286


It's NOT my opinion, it is FACT, and if you actually believe the Word's of Yeshua, you would know the TRUTH as well.

Sadly, you do NOT believe His Words because if you did, you would know the truth.

I believed in the "pre-tribulation rapture" for 19 years!!! I cried out for His Truth on 10-04-2005 and 10-05-2005, and eventually I learned His Truth and all it really entailed was trashing all the bullshit I was taught by various "churches" and "religious movements of man" and simply reading the Ancient Text in CONTEXT!!! Do NOT add, do NOT take away, and do NOT make His Word say what it does not say.

I suggest you repent, cry out for His Truth, and hope there is still time!!!

Shalom...

EBYhf
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There is no rapture. Especially for this generation and season. The servant is not greater than the master. Please think about that.
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Where have you been, brother? Most Christians throughout the world are going through persecution. I just heard about a Christian couple in Nigeria who were abducted by Muslims, them along with the entire wedding party. Nobody is saying we aren't going to experience persecution.
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Tell me about the anti christ.
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Sorry guys, there is evidence for a pre-tribulation rapture and it is Scriptural.

[link to water.cephas-news.com]

Why does the pre-trib stir people up so much? It is so strange, people get outright hostile and demonized when it comes to fighting against this concept. Very telling that there is something there that angers the spirits in many people within this world.
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bump
 Quoting: The Ghost of Comedian


It's very consistent...

In my opinion,
in my growing experience from a great many repeated observations here and elsewhere,
those that hate The Rapture
and so quickly and so thoroughly condemn all those that believe in the Rapture,
are not True believers in Jesus Christ looking for the promise of His coming
but, quite the contrary,
their peculiarly venomous hostility and attack against the Rapture and those that believe it
are evidence of its Truthfulness.

Rapture-haters are supposedly believers in Jesus Christ
that revile and condemn other believers in Jesus Christ
because those believers in Jesus Christ
believe and hope they will see Jesus Christ just a few years earlier
than what the Rapture-haters supposedly believe
and therefore condemn them as the worst of all evil...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21742615

So if you believe you will meet Jesus when the Rapture-hater believes he will see Jesus
you are good and true like the Rapture-hater,
but if you believe you will meet Jesus just a little bit earlier
then you are the most despicable rotten evil satanic filth imaginable and worth every condemnation and personal insult.
Now how could that possibly be? It simply is not true.
Those that believe the Rapture is true do not condemn those that do not believe that the Rapture is true.
Those that do not believe that the Rapture is true ALWAYS condemn and insult those that do believe that the Rapture s true.
Rapture-haters are not motivated by, never demonstrate, and never claim any love of Jesus Christ.
The show nothing but contempt for those that do.
Draw your own conclusion.

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No one here has condemned you Pedro.
In fact you're the one that seems to keep implying that those that disagree with you,and call you out are not right with God.

Typical 'You agree with us or it's hell for you'cultist buffoonery.This kind of nut bar rhetoris is why even many sane Christians are leaving churches,and not associating with their peers.

So many of you are pompous,delusional nut jobs,and I want nothing to do with you.
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
When the false doctrine of the rapture does not manifest itself and the mark of the beast is proposed, many will curse God to his face. They put more hope into a flesh salvation than a spiritual one. Friendship with the world is to be an enemy of God.
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No, no, no...

Your hypothetical bullshit so you can say I wouldn't believe right but you would!

By what twisted logic do you think I will curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen and the mark of the beast is proposed?!

BULLDUNG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286


My hope and prayer is to have the faith of Jesus Christ. The same faith that lead him to be slaughtered on the cross for the glory of the Father and for the love of mankind.

I pray never to be presumptuous. Those who think they stand take heed lest you fall.
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Why do you say I would curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen?
He died for you.
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
Do you think I am a friend of this world?

Believers shit on me!

You think the World approves me telling them of Jesus Christ?

Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286



Triggered.
Calling you out on your beliefs is hardly 'shitting on you'
If your convictions are so easily shaken,perhaps you need to reassess them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1058776


Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link?
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Yeah that made zero sense.
Try to at least speak coherent sentences,if you're going to debate please
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No one here has condemned you Pedro.
In fact you're the one.. you.. you.. You.. you'cultist buffoonery.This kind of nut bar.. you are pompous,delusional nut jobs..you.
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It's not about me. I am entirely irrelevant. It's about the Rapture
and the obvious hatred by supposed self-professed believers in Jesus Christ for the Rapture and those that believe the Rapture because they believe the Rapture... Pedro.
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HATRED...
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When the false doctrine of the rapture does not manifest itself and the mark of the beast is proposed, many will curse God to his face. They put more hope into a flesh salvation than a spiritual one. Friendship with the world is to be an enemy of God.
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No, no, no...

Your hypothetical bullshit so you can say I wouldn't believe right but you would!

By what twisted logic do you think I will curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen and the mark of the beast is proposed?!

BULLDUNG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286


My hope and prayer is to have the faith of Jesus Christ. The same faith that lead him to be slaughtered on the cross for the glory of the Father and for the love of mankind.

I pray never to be presumptuous. Those who think they stand take heed lest you fall.
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Why do you say I would curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen?
He died for you.
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Matthew 24:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

What I say on this internet forum should not be taken personally.
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When the false doctrine of the rapture does not manifest itself and the mark of the beast is proposed, many will curse God to his face. They put more hope into a flesh salvation than a spiritual one. Friendship with the world is to be an enemy of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76818441


No, no, no...

Your hypothetical bullshit so you can say I wouldn't believe right but you would!

By what twisted logic do you think I will curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen and the mark of the beast is proposed?!

BULLDUNG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286


My hope and prayer is to have the faith of Jesus Christ. The same faith that lead him to be slaughtered on the cross for the glory of the Father and for the love of mankind.

I pray never to be presumptuous. Those who think they stand take heed lest you fall.
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Why do you say I would curse God if the Rapture doesn't happen?
He died for you.
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He said 'many' will fall away,he never mentioned you once personally.You apparently can't even string a few sentences together,but we're supposed to take your counsel seriously?

Lol yeah ok...
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Re: Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
Do you think I am a friend of this world?

Believers shit on me!

You think the World approves me telling them of Jesus Christ?

Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286



Triggered.
Calling you out on your beliefs is hardly 'shitting on you'
If your convictions are so easily shaken,perhaps you need to reassess them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1058776


Do you tell them of Jesus Christ?

Link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876286


Yeah that made zero sense.
Try to at least speak coherent sentences,if you're going to debate please
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You don't preach Jesus Christ to anyone

because it is not in you...
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He said 'many' will fall away,he never mentioned you once personally.You apparently can't even string a few sentences together,but we're supposed to take your counsel seriously?

Lol yeah ok...
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Many always fall away from the faith. Perhaps you've ever read the Parable of The Sower.

That verse says nothing of what you say about the Rapture.

Again, it's not me.... because you didn't say me... duh.

You always say they will fall away, they will curse God, they won't be as true and good 'n plenty as you... as long as it's generic anonymous nobody them.. that can never answer you

so when I say here I am. I believe and I deny your charges, you have nothing to say.
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Jesus will Judge every single one of us.

Jesus will Judge your contempt and derision...

God bless you.
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Sorry guys, there is evidence for a pre-tribulation rapture and it is Scriptural.

[link to water.cephas-news.com]

Why does the pre-trib stir people up so much? It is so strange, people get outright hostile and demonized when it comes to fighting against this concept. Very telling that there is something there that angers the spirits in many people within this world.
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That link does NOT give evidence for a "pre-tribulation rapture" and there was some Scripture with a whole lot of additional bullshit attached. Are you so blind that you can not see that what you shared was NOT Scripture in CONTEXT???

LOL, talk about ADDING to the TEXT!!! Do you NOT realize that what you shares was opinion and a wall of speculation mixed in with some Ancient Text!!!

This is NOT simply reading in CONTEXT!!!

What you shared was pure BULLSHIT!!!

I will DESTROY everything in that link one verse and the Word's of Yeshua!!!

Mat 24:29  Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken...

Now, the question is, do you actually believe Yeshua or do you believe things that do NOT go with what He actually said???

Come out of her My People...

Shalom,
Eliyah Ben Yisrael
EBYhf
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No one here has condemned you Pedro.
In fact you're the one.. you.. you.. You.. you'cultist buffoonery.This kind of nut bar.. you are pompous,delusional nut jobs..you.
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It's not about me. I am entirely irrelevant. It's about the Rapture
and the obvious hatred by supposed self-professed believers in Jesus Christ for the Rapture and those that believe the Rapture because they believe the Rapture... Pedro.
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Awww twisting words again like the typical pre tribber.
Well this has been explained to you numerous times.But apparently your Intelligence is so lacking,you can't even understand what is being said.

Let me attempt to explain one more time Pedro.
If you don't get it this time,too bad I guess.I'm not spending all my time explaining concepts a child should understand to a grown man.

Noone hates the rapture.
What we HATE is the fact that pre tribber doctrine completely twists the words of Christ and Paul,and turns it into something it is not.

I could stand here all day and repeatedly explain that Jesus mentions nothing of two separate comings,or a 'silent rapture' in his commentary of the end times in Matthew 24.

He very clearly says that there will be a tribulation.After which he will return in the clouds with the hosts of heaven.After which the saved will be gathered from all corners of the earth,and will forever be with God after ward.

But it doesn't matter how many times Christ says it,or I point out his words.Regardless you're still going to choose to believe in two comings and silent raptures,to the very end.

Thats why cultists like you are a complete joke :P
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Not trying to rain on your parade or personal beliefs, but the catching away will occur AFTER Yaqqob's Trouble/Great Tribulation.
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IN YOUR OPINION.
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It's NOT my opinion, it is FACT, and if you actually believe the Word's of Yeshua, you would know the TRUTH as well.

Sadly, you do NOT believe His Words because if you did, you would know the truth.

I believed in the "pre-tribulation rapture" for 19 years!!! I cried out for His Truth on 10-04-2005 and 10-05-2005, and eventually I learned His Truth and all it really entailed was trashing all the bullshit I was taught by various "churches" and "religious movements of man" and simply reading the Ancient Text in CONTEXT!!! Do NOT add, do NOT take away, and do NOT make His Word say what it does not say.

I suggest you repent, cry out for His Truth, and hope there is still time!!!

Shalom...

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If you’re calling him Yashua then you have no clue about the Bible.
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The idea of a rapture is not scriptural. It is based upon a letter that Paul, a person not necessarily accepted by the disciples of Christ, wrote to the people of Thessalonica only. But, yet not to other churches of the Gentiles nor taught by the 11 Apostles + Barnabus.

Why was the usurper allowed to be the cornerstone of a New Testment? Neither Peter nor John believed Paul's story and sent him off into the Gentiles to preach the teachings of Paul. Not the teachings of Christ, but Paul's own teachings is what he espoused as he was never a follower of Jesus.
If it were such an important truth it would have been told to the Corinthians, the Galatians, the people of Ephesus, too.

There is no easy escape before the Tribulations. Nearly all believers will be killed or taken into slavery.
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Can anyone here actually teach to the history of this false rapture doctrine?Do you understand church history? Are you not aware of the reformation and counter reformation?

God’s people perish for a lack of knowledge.
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