Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.

Says WHO? YOU?

"Bema seat"? Where does your "the word of God KJV" state the word?

PROVE THAT "theory" with SCRIPTURE.

You CAN'T.

Parrot.

No scripture to "claim" your "doctrine"?

"bama seat"?

"Paul only"?

"rapture"?

HOGWASH

I assure you, verily, verily, you will not see me parroting HOGWASH...

Oh dear please forgive me if I'm a bit slow but it's early and I haven't had several cups of coffee yet. I keep making the mistake of thinking that you at least have some concept of commonly accepted matters. But I hope that at least you understand that if someone has been forgiven of their sins by Jesus Christ, that then when they appear before Him it is not a "Heaven or Hell" issue, because of course that was decided earlier. Rather it is a matter of rewards for what the Lord deems good works done during the believers lifetime, and the burning up of deeds that where not acceptable to the Lord.

Or you could say it's a matter of who will be rich in Heaven with a fine palace and all manner of other good things. And who might finish up with a little cottage and not so many other good things. Anyway here's some general information about this interesting and important subject.....



2 Corinthians 5:10
Verse Concepts
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 9:24-27

Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win. Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air;read more.
Romans 14:8-10

for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.
1 Corinthians 3:10-15

According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,read more.
Revelation 1:14
Verse Concepts
His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire.
1 Corinthians 9:25
Verse Concepts
Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.
1 Peter 5:4
Verse Concepts
And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the unfading crown of glory.
James 1:12
Verse Concepts
Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
Revelation 2:10
Verse Concepts
Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
2 Timothy 4:8
Verse Concepts
in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing.
Psalm 62:12
Verse Concepts
And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord,
For You recompense a man according to his work.
Matthew 16:27
Verse Concepts
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds.
Ephesians 6:7-8

With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free.
Jeremiah 17:10
Verse Concepts
“I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give to each man according to his ways,
According to the results of his deeds.
Revelation 2:23
Verse Concepts
And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.
1 Corinthians 4:5
Verse Concepts
Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.
Matthew 12:35-37

The good man brings out of his good treasure what is good; and the evil man brings out of his evil treasure what is evil. But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
1 John 2:28
Verse Concepts
Now, little children, abide in Him, so that when He appears, we may have confidence and not shrink away from Him in shame at His coming.
1 Corinthians 3:15
Verse Concepts
If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
2 John 1:8
Verse Concepts
Watch yourselves, that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward.

Fail number 4857564 for Judethz

:ohlook:


I already met Jesus Christ - when I was raptured to Heaven.

I already met GOD - when HE came down to Earth.

IT isn’t a matter of IF.

IT is a matter of WHEN.

IT is only a matter of TIME - until EVERYONE meets their SAVIOUR / CREATOR.

GOD will appear in HIS DIVINE TIMING.

Pretty sure the rapture happened and you were considered and rejected as too judgmental and self righteous.

Maybe next time

In 1993:
I was raptured to Heaven.
I was asked if I wanted to STAY (in HEAVEN) or return to Earth.
I asked to return to Earth.

Had I stayed in Heaven I would have failed the test and been born on Earth in a new body all over again.

As it was, I passed the test.


In 2003:
I then travelled to real HELL.
I survived - again returning to Earth.
I again passed the test.


In 2003:
On Earth - in GODS DIVINE TIMING - I met a girl.

I remembered HER (as being my Eternal GODDESS Lover).
She remembered ME (as being her Eternal GOD lover).

WE - both of our souls - instantly “merged” AS ONE.

GOD came down into our room - in London, United Kingdom - in ALL HIS DIVINE MAJESTY AND GLORY to Personally Bless Our Sacred Eternal Marriage.

WE - both of our souls - “merged” AS ONE with GOD HIMSELF.

Our transporting each other across in a tsunami tidal wave blaze of glory to Live Together in Endless Love Power Happiness Forever AS ONE with GOD in HIS GOLDEN SPIRITUAL REALM of Timeless Eternal Orgasmic Multidimensional Universal Bliss.

That's not how things work.

And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Mat 25:10



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This post is for anyone who does not know what the Rapture is.
The subject is controversial.
Many do not believe in it. Or, question the timing of it.
Some believe that the rapture/harpazo is very, very soon.

Harpazo; to seize or catch. Take by force. Caught up.
Ecstatic joy, bliss.
Rapture is a state or experience of being carried away.
Caught up to meet the Lord in the AIR.

Paul had that experience of being caught-up into the Third Heaven.
Philip was caught-up in The Spirit near Gaza when he was suddenly taken to Caesarea.
Enoch and Elijah were both taken this way. Translated and taken up.
John was taken to Heaven and given The Revelation of Jesus Christ.
How did John get to Heaven? He was caught-up.

1Thess. 4:17 uses the term, "...caught up together ... to meet the Lord in the AIR... "

The word AIR in greek is numa.
The word AIR in Hebrew its ruach.
The word air means spirit or as the wind blows.
A breath. Like how God breathed life into Adam.
So, being caught up is the actual BREATH of GOD.
Being IN HIS SPIRIT.
Meeting the Lord in the cloud is His gathering place before going to The Father's House.

If you can understand that God has life-giving breath, then you might understand how completely flabbergasting it is when God SPEAKS. The power! The immensity!
Revelation 19:9
"Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of The Lamb."

Compare what Paul says to what Jesus says in these passages.

1 Thessalonians 4

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


Notice that Verse 16 is pretty much EXACTLY what Jesus says in the Gospel descriptions.

Then notice how Paul's above verses 15 & 17 match....

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

It's all right there in the verses that I just quoted, but which you have ignored.

You sound like a lost soul who is afraid to come into the light.

sad cow, you aren't going anywhere

You still here. AC will soon be revealed. Surely you should be gone by then.

For me it’s a no brainer.

For you it’s fallen angel Aliens.

I thought that they were angels but much to my surprise we climbed aboard a starship and headed for the skies.

Brought to you by fallen cherub productions.

Jesus is king heretic. Killed by the religion of his day.

The phrase "bema seat" doesn't exist in the Bible.

The "judgement seat of Christ" in Romans 14 is THE SAME in Revelation 20.

for we shall all stand

Romans 14

8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Revelation 20

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

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ALL get judged at the White Throne "judgement".

Non-believers to the Lake of Fire.

Believers for their "rewards" / "treasures" in heaven.

Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 06/06/2020 12:14 PM

since you're busy quoting scripture... show me where Caiaphas was called a pastor... show me where anyone but Paul mentions the body of Christ and please show me where Jesus, Peter, John or any of the 12 went to a pastor or deacon, like in Paul's church...

instead of telling everyone how wrong they are, and how wonderfully right you are, please show me with SCRIPTURE...

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Acts3

"Now Peter and John went up together into the Temple, at the ninth hour of prayer."

So yea... Peter and John are STILL going to the temple, keeping the law, and Caiaphas, the high priest, ran the temple...

you're lost... get saved...

You DO realize that Acts 3 is BEFORE Paul's conversion?

BEFORE the Apostles and disciples scattered because of Saul/Paul's persecution?

HOW can you OVERLOOK that MOST LIKELY that they were still preaching at the Temple BECAUSE Father God and Jesus WANTED them to?

2 Chapters LATER in Acts

Acts 5

18 And laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison.
19 But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and brought them forth, and said,

20 Go, stand and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life.

21 And when they heard that, they entered into the temple early in the morning, and taught. But the high priest came, and they that were with him, and called the council together, and all the senate of the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought.

it was AFTER the death of Christ... and they're still going to temple, still keeping the law, it's ALL JUDI*M ... what's your point...

if you want to go to a Jewi*h temple today you can... just like Jesus, Peter and the 11... they have priest and rabbi's
and keep the law...

do you go to a Christian church like Paul set up, with preachers and deacons or do you go to a synagogue like Jesus and the 12, with rabbi's and priests under the law.

Peter and John were preaching that the J*ws had just killed their long awaited king and messiah ... that's a very different message from Paul's...that he came and died for our sins...

After the resurrection of Christ and upon receiving the Holy Spirit they preached this very message. That Christ came and died for their sins and for the sins of the world. This was while Paul was still persecuting everyone.

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For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

got scripture for that... Paul tells us HE was given this dispensation of grace to bring to the world, like Moses brought the J*ws the law and church structure, Paul brought in this period of grace, apart from the temple, rabbi's, the law, and all the requirements that go along with Judi*m...

"For this cause, I Paul am the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles. If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward,
That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words, Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit,

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got scripture for that...

IDIOT. They were preaching THE Gospel.

The ONLY way to be SAVED.

4 events in Acts BEFORE Paul's conversion total WELL OVER 8000 Christian Believers.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.


Acts 4:4 Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.

Acts 5

12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

13 And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.

14 And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.


Acts 6:7 And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; u]and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.

How about YOU go and read the first 6 Chapters of Acts.

YEARS BEFORE Paul preached a single WORD.

IDIOT. They were preaching THE Gospel.

The ONLY way to be SAVED.

4 events in Acts BEFORE Paul's conversion total WELL OVER 8000 Christian Believers.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.


Acts 4:4 Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.

Acts 5

12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

13 And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.

14 And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.


Acts 6:7 And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; u]and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.


which gospel... Judi*m or Christianity??

Peter was a Messianic J*W... he believed Jesus WAS the son of GOD... THAT is his profession of faith... NOTHING about death, burial and resurrection for salvation... the same with those 8000... they BELIEVED Jesus was the son of GOD and were saved... Acts is a transitional book... Judi*sm is on the way out and Paul brings in Christianity

Last Edited by freedomsnotfree1 on 06/06/2020 07:23 PM

how bout you show me where Peter talks about the body of christ...

or where Peter opens up a church with pastors, deacons and bishops, like Paul... he's still going to temple, with rabbi's and priests...

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