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Message Subject Why the Rapture may be sooner than many people think.
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These verses (plus many more) reveal the DEITY of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


NO they don't. It's merely the twisted understanding of these verses that began with the early Catholic church. You folks IGNORE what Jesus actually SAYS.

The probelem with MANY church "doctrines" is that they DO NOT start with EITHER "thus saith the LORD" - OR - "and Jesus said...."


Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

Titus 2:13 Looking for the Blessed Hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


That is a poor translation. "Great God" is the Father.

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John 1:1-3 (THE WORD was God and was made flesh)
John 14 "He who has see ME has seen the Father."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


IF Jesus TRULY was "the Word"...then WHY did the Father TELL Jesus what to say????

...the Father SENT me" - 47 verses in the 4 Gospels
..."I say what the Father has said." - John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

2Peter 1:1 "To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


"Our God" is the Father. John 20:17 PROVES such.

1 Tim 3:16 ... " God was manifested in the flesh.."
etc, etc, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


Another "trinitarian translation" of a verse.

Jesus - SON OF God - was manifested. NOT the Father.

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Jesus is;
Fullness of the Godhead bodily
Alpha & Omega & The Almighty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


"godhead" is a trinitarian translation.

Jesus is holy and righteous - and His divinity and deity are as the SON OF God.

"Alpha and Omega" is taken from Revelation - THE MOST CONTESTED - and LAST - book added to the Bible.

Jesus is I AM
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


NO He isn't. Take a look at the OTHER verses where He uses "I am".

Jesus doesn't say "I am who (that) I am".

His use of the phrase "I am" is uniqueness as the only-begotten son of God

Here's MORE times Jesus used the phrase "I am".

Mark 14:61-62

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


Luke 22:70 Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.

John 8:28-29

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.


John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?


Jesus is LORD and GOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


ONLY Thomas says that. ALL of the other say Jesus is "the SON OF God". Notice what John says at the END of that passage".

John 20

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.


Immanuel - God with us
etc. etc. etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620


You reference what the angel said in Matthew 1 - but IGNORE what was said in Luke 1.

35 And the angel answered and said
unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come
upon thee, and the power of the Highest
shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee
shall be called the Son of God.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Ignore nothing. Believe every word.

The Son of God is God with us.

Jesus Christ is God in the flesh.

Your tongue will confess confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 
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