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FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be

 
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FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
(Natural News) The “two doctors” video that has been widely cited across independent and conservative media turns out to be yet another example of mathematical illiteracy parading as authoritative medicine.

The two doctors featured in the video, Drs. Dan Erickson and Artin Massih, co-owners of Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, California, put on a clinic of mathematical and statistical illiteracy in their now-banned video, essentially claiming no lockdowns were ever necessary and that the coronavirus isn’t really very dangerous at all.

To arrive at that absurd conclusion, they of course cite horribly bad math… the kind of math that would earn you an “F” in Statistics 101. From their video, here’s what they say:

So if you look at California—these numbers are from yesterday—we have 33,865 COVID cases, out of a total of 280,900 total tested. That’s 12% of Californians were positive for COVID. So we don’t, the initial—as you guys know, the initial models were woefully inaccurate. They predicted millions of cases of death—not of prevalence or incidence—but death. That is not materializing. What is materializing is, in the state of California is 12% positives. You have a 0.03 chance of dying from COVID in the state of California. Does that necessitate sheltering in place? Does that necessitate shutting down medical systems? Does that necessitate people being out of work?

The problem with that explanation? The sample of people who are being tested are, of course, the people most likely to have symptoms or who believe they have been exposed. It’s not a random sample of the population at large. (Again, this is Statistics 101.)

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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
Uhuh...have a few coworkers that agree with them.
Our death count is still same as the March numbers.

No cases in the hospital.
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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
These stupid tard doctors keep citing the Stanford study as if it were a random sampling... ffs

Hey people, who wants a rona test?

Everyone with symptoms: Me, me, me!
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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
Uhuh...have a few coworkers that agree with them.
Our death count is still same as the March numbers.

No cases in the hospital.
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Did they tell you that the virus will be gone in two more weeks too?

epiclol
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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
Good point, but many have already done RANDOM testing for coronavirus and have found infectious rates anywhere from 10-20%. I believe it was done in Stockholm and New York city.

Based on the Stockholm numbers of 11% infected, you would have 1 million infected and a death rate of around 0.2%.

Again their conclusion is still correct.
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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
Op we are not saying the virus isn't real or deadly

It definitely is. We are saying they are faking the real

numbers and now government can't be trusted.
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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
(Natural News) The “two doctors” video that has been widely cited across independent and conservative media turns out to be yet another example of mathematical illiteracy parading as authoritative medicine.

The two doctors featured in the video, Drs. Dan Erickson and Artin Massih, co-owners of Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, California, put on a clinic of mathematical and statistical illiteracy in their now-banned video, essentially claiming no lockdowns were ever necessary and that the coronavirus isn’t really very dangerous at all.

To arrive at that absurd conclusion, they of course cite horribly bad math… the kind of math that would earn you an “F” in Statistics 101. From their video, here’s what they say:

So if you look at California—these numbers are from yesterday—we have 33,865 COVID cases, out of a total of 280,900 total tested. That’s 12% of Californians were positive for COVID. So we don’t, the initial—as you guys know, the initial models were woefully inaccurate. They predicted millions of cases of death—not of prevalence or incidence—but death. That is not materializing. What is materializing is, in the state of California is 12% positives. You have a 0.03 chance of dying from COVID in the state of California. Does that necessitate sheltering in place? Does that necessitate shutting down medical systems? Does that necessitate people being out of work?

The problem with that explanation? The sample of people who are being tested are, of course, the people most likely to have symptoms or who believe they have been exposed. It’s not a random sample of the population at large. (Again, this is Statistics 101.)

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This is a stupid talking pint being parroted by a lemming.

The figures the doctors quoted have been found in multiple other studies. It is fairly undisputed that we overestimated mortality by an order of magnitude. We should revise our strategies. That’s what the doctors are suggesting.

Why do you want to silence them? What’s next - book burning?
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Re: FACT CHECK: The “two doctors” featured in popular video from California were actually spouting statistical nonsense… don’t be
Uhuh...have a few coworkers that agree with them.
Our death count is still same as the March numbers.

No cases in the hospital.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Did they tell you that the virus will be gone in two more weeks too?

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78105612


OP, I had your famous cold in December.
Guess what?

I survived.





GLP