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Trump just Federalized the Grid Today

 
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Trump just Federalized the Grid Today
While we are all distracted with the virus, Trump quietly passed an executive order essentially protecting our electrical grid. The language in the order specifically states foreign equipment is a threat to national security.

What are we expecting?
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This is not a good thing.
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“ I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that foreign adversaries are increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in the United States bulk-power system, which provides the electricity that supports our national defense, vital emergency services, critical infrastructure, economy, and way of life. The bulk-power system is a target of those seeking to commit malicious acts against the United States and its people, including malicious cyber activities, because a successful attack on our bulk-power system would present significant risks to our economy, human health and safety, and would render the United States less capable of acting in defense of itself and its allies.”


Translation - Not fucking good.
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Thread: Trump signs executive order to protect the US from a 'debilitating' EMP attack

Thread: Coronavirus: Be glad it happened now instead of Summer or Winter. Just imagine if it happened in Summer and they SHUT THE POWER. Bitcoin and onli
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Nice try, this order is from today. You linked a thread from June.

CLICK ON THE LINK SO YOU DONT LOOK LIKE A DUMBASS.
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bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US

great thing
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It also prevents local power companies from shutting off the power of those who do not "comply"
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bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US

great thing
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Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence.

Something is fucky.
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It also prevents local power companies from shutting off the power of those who do not "comply"
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It also makes it easy for the government to do exactly what you claim the private companies would do.
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bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US

great thing
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Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence.

Something is fucky.
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It sure as shit sets the state for a false flag if I ever saw one.
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*checks grid*
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It also prevents local power companies from shutting off the power of those who do not "comply"
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It also makes it easy for the government to do exactly what you claim the private companies would do.
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This order might also allow the military to take over utilities in the event of an attack.

Again, what are we expecting?
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I therefore determine that the unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>

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It also prevents local power companies from shutting off the power of those who do not "comply"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920717


It also makes it easy for the government to do exactly what you claim the private companies would do.
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can you envision liberal power companies cutting power to conservative strongholds in CA?
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
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Huuuur Duuuuur
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
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This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
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It also prevents local power companies from shutting off the power of those who do not "comply"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920717


It also makes it easy for the government to do exactly what you claim the private companies would do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588



can you envision liberal power companies cutting power to conservative strongholds in CA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920717


Can you imagine the government cutting power to anyone who wont comply with the Vaccine orders?
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

our power grid.


Trump just ended that.

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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Really winning that Trade war isnt he?
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

out power grid.


Trump just ended that.
 Quoting: Jake


He is doing the same with the entire US Military

No more Chinese Components
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

out power grid.


Trump just ended that.
 Quoting: Jake


bsflagbsflagbsflag

Link? Show me proof of this unfettered access? They make components not operating systems. Lol. Jake do you understand how Computers work?
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Really winning that Trade war isnt he?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588


yes he is, Fuck china
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This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Really winning that Trade war isnt he?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588


yes he is, Fuck china
 Quoting: Jake


By winning you mean completely shutting down trade permanently with no plan in place to fill those goods coming in or being exported? Lol. Thats gonna work out well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588


That is their problem at the corporate level

After this if you don't reroute your supply chains

you are a fucking idiot.
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It also prevents local power companies from shutting off the power of those who do not "comply"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920717


It also makes it easy for the government to do exactly what you claim the private companies would do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588



can you envision liberal power companies cutting power to conservative strongholds in CA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920717


Can you imagine the government cutting power to anyone who wont comply with the Vaccine orders?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588


I see you voted for Hillary
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Really winning that Trade war isnt he?
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yes he is, Fuck china
 Quoting: Jake


By winning you mean completely shutting down trade permanently with no plan in place to fill those goods coming in or being exported? Lol. Thats gonna work out well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588


That is their problem at the corporate level

After this if you don't reroute your supply chains

you are a fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Jake


Hey I have an Idea. Why dont we just give control of everything over to the President. What could go wrong with centralized power? Your fucking dumb and a bootlicking goose stepping asshat.
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

out power grid.


Trump just ended that.
 Quoting: Jake


bsflagbsflagbsflag

Link? Show me proof of this unfettered access? They make components not operating systems. Lol. Jake do you understand how Computers work?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588


Smartypants. Just realize you are not smart.

Computer chips can be designed with backdoors.
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


They are the soul source of some very critical and very large transformers of which we have no spares, no ability to manufacture them, and it is about 18 months to build one. If several of these were taken out we would have rolling blackouts until it could be fixed

Sweet. We did this to ourselves. Fucking stupid.
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*checks grid*
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


They are the soul source of some very critical and very large transformers of which we have no spares, no ability to manufacture them, and it is about 18 months to build one. If several of these were taken out we would have rolling blackouts until it could be fixed

Sweet. We did this to ourselves. Fucking stupid.
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Remember when Trump let “Generators” slip during a press conference? He actually meant to say Ventilators though. I’m telling you, we are expecting something.
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Really winning that Trade war isnt he?
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yes he is, Fuck china
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By winning you mean completely shutting down trade permanently with no plan in place to fill those goods coming in or being exported? Lol. Thats gonna work out well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860588


That is their problem at the corporate level

After this if you don't reroute your supply chains

you are a fucking idiot.
 Quoting: Jake


Couldn’t agree more. Time to re-work the supply chain. Bring jobs back to the States. Make essentials here.
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How long would it take to get all foreign parts out of our grid and replaced?

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