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Trump just Federalized the Grid Today

 
R. Wordsworth
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Is anyone able to trace back any of the components to China that is currently in use in our power grid with links etc? I am deep diving now and I either don't know where to look or I am just stupid :P Could be both LOL
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EVERYTHING CONTROLLING OUR GRID IS MADE IN CHINA

ALL OF IT

ALLEN BRADLEY PLCS ARE ASSEMBLED IN US WITH CHINESE PARTS

NEVERMIND HACKING, IF CHINA SHUT OF SUPPLY OF IC COMPONENTS IN 6 MONTHS GRID GOES DOWN WHEN I/O CARDS START TO FAIL AND CAN'T BE REPLACED

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I get the sense the electrical grid may be vulnerable, especially in the coming weeks/months as this covert war between factions and world events intensifies. I feel this is a positive thing to make the grid more secure.
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How the fuck is it going to do that? All the computer components that control the grid were made in China.

You're telling me that with a stroke of a pen, Trump just required the entire grid to throw out their computers and PLCs and replace them with domestically made hardware, which even if it FUCKING EXISTED, would cost a trillion dollars to replace????
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You ........houe dare uyoda
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I therefore determine that the unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
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Yep. This should have been done by Congress a long time ago, but, well, you know.
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TRUMP IS ALL GOOD
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bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US

great thing
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Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence.

Something is fucky.
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Nothing will stop what THE MOST HIGH has coming. Both sides will pay the universal piper.
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Oh my God!

This is better news!
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While we are all distracted with the virus, Trump quietly passed an executive order essentially protecting our electrical grid. The language in the order specifically states foreign equipment is a threat to national security.

What are we expecting?
[link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Probably he wants to get transformers built here in the states.
Apparently China had the world market cornered them so if we had a bad EMP that took out a few hundred thousand transformers, it would take almost a year to get them from China. Our grid would stay down for a long time especially since we are having a silent war with China.
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Oh my God!

This is better news!
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Yeah, it sounds cool, but do you know of any PLCs and VFDs that can communicate over Ethernet that aren't made in China?

Do you know how to translate the ladder logic without error from one to another?
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While we are all distracted with the virus, Trump quietly passed an executive order essentially protecting our electrical grid. The language in the order specifically states foreign equipment is a threat to national security.

What are we expecting?
[link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Probably he wants to get transformers built here in the states.
Apparently China had the world market cornered them so if we had a bad EMP that took out a few hundred thousand transformers, it would take almost a year to get them from China. Our grid would stay down for a long time especially since we are having a silent war with China.
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Now how could our corrupt political elites let this happen?

I can understand the anger Trump must have for this traitor class of American politicians.

I'd expand GITMO by another 500 acres.
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“ I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that foreign adversaries are increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in the United States bulk-power system, which provides the electricity that supports our national defense, vital emergency services, critical infrastructure, economy, and way of life. The bulk-power system is a target of those seeking to commit malicious acts against the United States and its people, including malicious cyber activities, because a successful attack on our bulk-power system would present significant risks to our economy, human health and safety, and would render the United States less capable of acting in defense of itself and its allies.”


Translation - Not fucking good.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Yes it's not good that foreign entities want to harm our power grid. It's good that President Trump is doing something about it...

Which means if someone tries to hack our grid or plant malicious malware, it is now Federalized and would be considered an act of war...
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COMET ATLAS. At the very least, this was entertaining and one of the most convincing presentations.

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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
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This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
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Really winning that Trade war isnt he?
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iceland proxy shill
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Is anyone able to trace back any of the components to China that is currently in use in our power grid with links etc? I am deep diving now and I either don't know where to look or I am just stupid :P Could be both LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78601229


EVERYTHING CONTROLLING OUR GRID IS MADE IN CHINA

ALL OF IT

ALLEN BRADLEY PLCS ARE ASSEMBLED IN US WITH CHINESE PARTS

NEVERMIND HACKING, IF CHINA SHUT OF SUPPLY OF IC COMPONENTS IN 6 MONTHS GRID GOES DOWN WHEN I/O CARDS START TO FAIL AND CAN'T BE REPLACED
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0hsnapCATsherlock

That's the whole point.
Are you telling me that a superpower such as the US is not capable of making these parts , if not they had better learn quick.
That's a huge vulnerability that just should'nt exist.
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I therefore determine that the unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
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Yep. This should have been done by Congress a long time ago, but, well, you know.
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bump
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bump
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bump for Cockblocking Espionage. Can we work on those Chinese Visas too?
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This will bring part makers back to America.
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This will bring part makers back to America.
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Yep, it's probably tech they stole from the US in the first place.
Hardly great inventors more like imitators.
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The problem with executive orders is that they are not lawful and can on a whim be rescinded. There is no bite of law.
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While we are all distracted with the virus, Trump quietly passed an executive order essentially protecting our electrical grid. The language in the order specifically states foreign equipment is a threat to national security.

What are we expecting?
[link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
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A storm of Biblical proportions.
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I therefore determine that the unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
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And about time, too!!!
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While we are all distracted with the virus, Trump quietly passed an executive order essentially protecting our electrical grid. The language in the order specifically states foreign equipment is a threat to national security.

What are we expecting?
[link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


A storm of Biblical proportions.
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This is not a good thing.
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You don't think it's a good thing that We need to secure our electric grid from attacks?
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Should have been done a decade ago
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While we are all distracted with the virus, Trump quietly passed an executive order essentially protecting our electrical grid. The language in the order specifically states foreign equipment is a threat to national security.

What are we expecting?
[link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


NOT 'federalizing' ANYTHING, and such an EO is FAR beyond his authority in ALL WAYS.


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Not if it is matter of National Security...
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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

our power grid.


Trump just ended that.
 Quoting: Jake


Well, not really ended, not until all components are replaced with secure US made. But it's a good thing. We've all known that the US power grid is one of our weakest points. Glad he's doing something about it.....
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Just because it is made in the U.S. does not necessarily mean it is secure. Let's not forget that it was people in charge of U.S. multinationals who made the decision to put America into this position by outsourcing these components to China.
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While we are all distracted with the virus, Trump quietly passed an executive order essentially protecting our electrical grid. The language in the order specifically states foreign equipment is a threat to national security.

What are we expecting?
[link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


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unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security,

He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA>
 Quoting: Jake


This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

our power grid.


Trump just ended that.
 Quoting: Jake


what about the components that are already in place?
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re-routing power circuits to by-pass crippled stations.
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Fuck all this....it is way beyond time to roll out all the N. Tesla tech that has been hidden from the masses and only kept and developed by ass-hats.

Worth mentioning it was Trump's uncle who went in to Tesla's hotel room after he died to inventory and parse out the goods. Wonder what Trump's uncle kept to himself.
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This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged.
 Quoting: AmericanSpyglass


Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

our power grid.


Trump just ended that.
 Quoting: Jake


what about the components that are already in place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78275883


re-routing power circuits to by-pass crippled stations.
 Quoting: apple orchard


Can also isolate communication wise and guard them to prevent physical access, to prevent the kind of hacking necessary to exploit the weakness.
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Our new grid is computerized and China has been making

the components, which gives them unfettered access to

our power grid.


Trump just ended that.
 Quoting: Jake


what about the components that are already in place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78275883


re-routing power circuits to by-pass crippled stations.
 Quoting: apple orchard


Can also isolate communication wise and guard them to prevent physical access, to prevent the kind of hacking necessary to exploit the weakness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


the NSA needs to get off there ass and solve the "Hacker Crisis".





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