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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77354840 United States 05/01/2020 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78864696 great thing Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence. Something is fucky. Trump knows the Deep State fuckers planned to zap us all with ultra-powerful 5G shit that they've been secretly installing all over the place for years. He just took away their ability to turn that destructive shit on. Don't believe me? Take a good look at the streetlights in your city. They're all LED's now and have thick black antennas sticking out of the top. That's weaponized 5G infrastructure. |
Autonomous Hippopotamus User ID: 78134458 United States 05/01/2020 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John D Rockefeller said competition is it Is a sin He wouldn't understand what sin actually is if it crawled up his ass and laid eggs. And it did, btw. Last Edited by #1 no one on 05/01/2020 09:07 PM They can't steal the sunset. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 05/01/2020 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is China considered an adversary? Because most our equip at our Nuc plant has China parts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7949032 (d) The term “foreign adversary” means any foreign government or foreign non-government person engaged in a long‑term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or its allies or the security and safety of United States persons. Where's the definition for enemy? I bet that would probably be more fitting. |
apple orchard User ID: 76809044 United States 05/01/2020 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these are dangerous times and Trump is just fortifying the Nation. John D Rockefeller said competition is it did you know that John D. Rockefeller started out selling kerosene, that's all Oil was good for back in the beginning. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7949032 United States 05/01/2020 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is China considered an adversary? Because most our equip at our Nuc plant has China parts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7949032 (d) The term “foreign adversary” means any foreign government or foreign non-government person engaged in a long‑term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or its allies or the security and safety of United States persons. Where's the definition for enemy? I bet that would probably be more fitting. This quote is out of the order. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 05/01/2020 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is China considered an adversary? Because most our equip at our Nuc plant has China parts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7949032 (d) The term “foreign adversary” means any foreign government or foreign non-government person engaged in a long‑term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or its allies or the security and safety of United States persons. Where's the definition for enemy? I bet that would probably be more fitting. This quote is out of the order. Just sayin. |
Lance Roseman From BC User ID: 77547432 Canada 05/01/2020 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are transformers made? What is the stockpile in the US? If American companies can tool up to build millions of ventilators, they sure as heck can tool up to rebuild the National Grid...and when can we have our few billions back for BCHydro stolen by Enron so our power prices drop? If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
AmericanSpyglass (OP) User ID: 78154041 United States 05/01/2020 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are transformers made? What is the stockpile in the US? If American companies can tool up to build millions of ventilators, they sure as heck can tool up to rebuild the National Grid...and when can we have our few billions back for BCHydro stolen by Enron so our power prices drop? Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Yeah. That’s amazing and all, but imagine what happens when areas don’t have electricity for a month, plus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78275883 United States 05/01/2020 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, Quoting: Jake He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA> This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged. Our new grid is computerized and China has been making the components, which gives them unfettered access to our power grid. Trump just ended that. what about the components that are already in place? |
Lance Roseman From BC User ID: 77547432 Canada 05/01/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are transformers made? What is the stockpile in the US? If American companies can tool up to build millions of ventilators, they sure as heck can tool up to rebuild the National Grid...and when can we have our few billions back for BCHydro stolen by Enron so our power prices drop? Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Yeah. That’s amazing and all, but imagine what happens when areas don’t have electricity for a month, plus. WHy would it be a month or so? Not seeing your connection here? If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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boutreality User ID: 78257745 United States 05/01/2020 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78864696 great thing Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence. Something is fucky. Nice observations in your response replies, Trump AT BEST (like every President) is in the middle- at worst he was a better choice than Clinton, and STILL the worst choice for the country. (In the US, we have a pluralist power structure -we learned about it in the 4th grade, and it's why EVERY President is always "In the Middle".) What "they're" expecting; the war for the country is carried out in the careers of people who are not elected to office, and this is how it's shaping up: Thread: GLOBAL NATIONAL SOCIALISM V COMMUNISM WAR 2021 & THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION PLAN: A 2030 SUPER-VIRUS Last Edited by boutreality on 05/01/2020 09:20 PM A New Gnosis |
AmericanSpyglass (OP) User ID: 78154041 United States 05/01/2020 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are transformers made? What is the stockpile in the US? If American companies can tool up to build millions of ventilators, they sure as heck can tool up to rebuild the National Grid...and when can we have our few billions back for BCHydro stolen by Enron so our power prices drop? Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Yeah. That’s amazing and all, but imagine what happens when areas don’t have electricity for a month, plus. WHy would it be a month or so? Not seeing your connection here? I’m thinking worse case scenario. Let’s be practical there are millions of transformers in the United States. I dont have exact numbers but I am sure someone here knows. The point is, the power companies don’t have enough in storage to replace all of them, not to mention the manpower. I also don’t know how an EMP or hack works exactly, but there are lots of other electronic devices that might need some help too. Edit - it also takes weeks sometimes to restore power to a nation ravaged by a hurricane. We are fools to think an attack on the grid would be nothing similar. Last Edited by AmericanSpyglass on 05/01/2020 09:23 PM |
Brotha Bubs User ID: 78761524 United States 05/01/2020 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78864696 great thing Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence. Something is fucky. Yeah the previous few administrations set up the American people to be enslaved by the CCP and the UN. Everything was in place and ready to go, until she lost. |
sssssteve User ID: 78864154 United States 05/01/2020 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, Quoting: Jake He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA> This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged. Really winning that Trade war isnt he? yes he is, Fuck china China is asshole |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76934353 United States 05/01/2020 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, Quoting: Jake He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA> This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged. They are the soul source of some very critical and very large transformers of which we have no spares, no ability to manufacture them, and it is about 18 months to build one. If several of these were taken out we would have rolling blackouts until it could be fixed Sweet. We did this to ourselves. Fucking stupid. Remember when Trump let “Generators” slip during a press conference? He actually meant to say Ventilators though. I’m telling you, we are expecting something. |
Blue Fairy User ID: 44333138 United States 05/01/2020 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78864696 great thing Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence. Something is fucky. Yes, either he has recent intel on a planned attack on our Grid or he is correcting a decades long-known vulnerability. I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that foreign adversaries are increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in the United States bulk-power system, which provides the electricity that supports our national defense, vital emergency services, critical infrastructure, economy, and way of life. The bulk-power system is a target of those seeking to commit malicious acts against the United States and its people, including malicious cyber activities, because a successful attack on our bulk-power system would present significant risks to our economy, human health and safety, and would render the United States less capable of acting in defense of itself and its allies. [link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)] New Eugenics and the Rise of the Global Scientific Dictatorship [link to www.globalresearch.ca (secure)] Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes [link to www.survivorshandbook.com] "One day many will hang their heads in shame, when they realize the evil they defended, and the heroes they ridiculed." “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” Samuel Adams |
Brotha Bubs User ID: 78761524 United States 05/01/2020 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are transformers made? What is the stockpile in the US? If American companies can tool up to build millions of ventilators, they sure as heck can tool up to rebuild the National Grid...and when can we have our few billions back for BCHydro stolen by Enron so our power prices drop? Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Yeah. That’s amazing and all, but imagine what happens when areas don’t have electricity for a month, plus. WHy would it be a month or so? Not seeing your connection here? I’m thinking worse case scenario. Let’s be practical there are millions of transformers in the United States. I dont have exact numbers but I am sure someone here knows. The point is, the power companies don’t have enough in storage to replace all of them, not to mention the manpower. I also don’t know how an EMP or hack works exactly, but there are lots of other electronic devices that might need some help too. I’m more than sure this administration isn’t only ramping up production of ventilators after the President activated the DEFENSE production act. Last Edited by Bubba gon Getcha on 05/01/2020 09:28 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78691169 United States 05/01/2020 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are transformers made? What is the stockpile in the US? If American companies can tool up to build millions of ventilators, they sure as heck can tool up to rebuild the National Grid...and when can we have our few billions back for BCHydro stolen by Enron so our power prices drop? Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC The transformers are made in China and South America. They take 18-24 months to get on the "fast track". These are significant assets. Generally, there are no extras kept in stock. I would not doubt the ability of American manufacturing to re-tool and produce this equipment if needed, but to my knowledge, we don't currently have the ability. That said, our grid is just that. It's a redundant electric system. It may not be impenetrable, but we can get it back up and running very quickly if needed. I've spent most of my life working with electricity and our electric grid. My friends and co-workers understand how critical the service that we provide is to our community. We are your neighbors. We don't intend to let you down. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76934353 United States 05/01/2020 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | unrestricted foreign supply of bulk-power system electric equipment constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, Quoting: Jake He's blocking Equipment Made in CHINA> This order was basically tailor made for China. He is anticipating the supply gets “cut off” or sabotaged. Our new grid is computerized and China has been making the components, which gives them unfettered access to our power grid. Trump just ended that. what about the components that are already in place? See Section 2 (ii) of today’s EO: “(ii) develop recommendations on ways to identify, isolate, monitor, or replace such items as soon as practicable, taking into consideration overall risk to the bulk-power system.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72540350 United States 05/01/2020 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By winning you mean completely shutting down trade permanently with no plan in place to fill those goods coming in or being exported? Lol. Thats gonna work out well. That is their problem at the corporate level After this if you don't reroute your supply chains you are a fucking idiot. Hey I have an Idea. Why dont we just give control of everything over to the President. What could go wrong with centralized power? Your fucking dumb and a bootlicking goose stepping asshat. Sucks ass to be you chingaling ching chong man. |
Deplorable Zenobia User ID: 8648552 United States 05/01/2020 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bringing critical commercial component manufacturing back to US Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78864696 great thing Yes, but let’s say we are in a state of war, this order admits the grid has massive vulnerabilities, actors are documented attempting to exploit these vulnerabilities, and the threat is legitimate enough to issue an executive order protecting our grid and stopping all foreign dependence. Something is fucky. First off, our grid has been neglected and should've been hardened against EMP (man made or Sun induced) a long time ago. Someone correct me but I swear I recall something about our big-ass aircraft that relied on Chinese electronics and w/in past few yrs have been stripped and re outfitted w/ tech to prevent major issues. Hell, most of US infrastructure is in such bad shape, like our bridges. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
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