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A Massive Earthquake Will Happen Right Before the Rapture

 
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What a sadness I have in knowing that all these calamities are coming to you and the immense majority of humanity, is still asleep by sin and disbelief! Oh, ungrateful and sinful humanity! Did you think that all was a myth and that nothing would happen to you? Look today at the existing panic, the pandemic of fear, coupled with the pandemic of the viruses, have taken hold of you. The pains are just beginning and the first woes have already been heard. Truly I say unto you, if you do not remain united to Me, like the Branch to the Vine, you will perish.

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It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years.

It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord.


 Quoting: Ears To Hear


You have taking the actual time line and put it in your own order. Stick to the exact order of the BIBLE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78782774


The Book of Revelation is not laid out like an A to Z chronology. There are multiple timelines, which need to be rightly divided in order to put them in A to Z order.

The video does this.
The truth about the timing of the rapture (and it may be soon) can be found here: [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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 Quoting: Bananael


 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Yep, exactly. The belief in a pretrib rapture is blatantly unbiblical.

It is also setting up a lot of lukewarm Christians that will turn away from their faith when faced with the decision to receive the mark, or die painfully.

It is one of the most effective and deceptive tricks ever imposed on the faith.

And JUST in time for tribulation. Imagine that.
 Quoting: Bananael


sorry but post trib is wrong. If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth?

by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups:

goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom.

sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus.

if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign?

Nobody.

we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate:


Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

that is why post-trib is false.

after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth.
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sorry but post trib is wrong. If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth?

by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups:

goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom.

sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus.

if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign?

Nobody.

we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate:

Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

that is why post-trib is false.

after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth.
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 Quoting: Baloney


Really?

1. There are Believers STILL ALIVE when Jesus returns.

Matthew 24

29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


1 Thessalonians 4

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


2. The "dead in Christ" are raised when Jesus returns.

3. Those who are under the throne / altar...


Revelation 6

9 And when he had opened the fifth
seal, I saw under the altar the souls of
them that were slain for the word of
God, and for the testimony which they
held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice,
saying, How long, O Lord, holy and
true, dost thou not judge and avenge our
blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto
every one of them; and it was said unto
them, that they should rest yet for a little
season, until their fellowservants also and
their brethren, that should be killed as
they were, should be fulfilled.


Revelation 7

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great
multitude, which no man could number,
of all nations, and kindreds, and people,
and tongues, stood before the throne,
and before the Lamb, clothed with white
robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying,
Salvation to our God which sitteth
upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about
the throne, and about the elders and the
four beasts, and fell before the throne on
their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory,
and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and hon-
our, and power, and might, be unto our
God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, say-
ing unto me, What are these which are
arrayed in white robes? and whence came
they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou
knowest. And he said to me, These are
they which came out of great tribulation,
and have washed their robes, and made
them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne
of God, and serve him day and night in
his temple: and he that sitteth on the
throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither
thirst any more; neither shall the sun
light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst
of the throne shall feed them, and shall
lead them unto living fountains of wa-
ters: and God shall wipe away all tears
from their eyes.


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sorry but post trib is wrong. If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth?

by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups:

goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom.

sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus.

if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign?

Nobody.

we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate:

Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

that is why post-trib is false.

after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth.
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 Quoting: Baloney


Really?

1. There are Believers STILL ALIVE when Jesus returns.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Yep really. as I said, there will be 2 groups left at the end of the tribulation period. the goats and the sheep.

Christ's first order of business is the sheep/goat judgment in which the goats, those who took the mark, are judged and sent off to punishment.

the sheep, those who didn't take the mark and survived until the end are the ones left who go into the millennial kingdom.

if they are raptured at that time, ie perfected into the eternal body and the dead in christ resurrected at that time, then who would be left to re-populate the Earth?

nobody.

those who are raptured/resurrected no longer pro-create as they become "like the angels" not marry/be given into marriage meaning no sexual reproduction....just as matthew 22:30 states.

that is why a post-trib rapture/resurrection event is not possible.
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The separation of the sheep and the goats happens right before the rapture of the wise virgins. It makes perfect sense, as it is right at the end of the age and everyone on the earth will know God is real and Jesus is Lord.

But they will also know that most of humanity, including the foolish virgins, will have to go through the hour of testing.
The truth about the timing of the rapture (and it may be soon) can be found here: [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word.

Revelation 20:4

"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
 Quoting: Bananael


Whose word?
One the 1830 BS is just that, BS.

Irenaeus
His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture.

"And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.



Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist:

"These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)."
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There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word.

Revelation 20:4

"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
 Quoting: Bananael


Whose word?
One the 1830 BS is just that, BS.

Irenaeus
His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture.

"And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.



Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist:

"These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)."
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I stick with scripture.
Bananael said so
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It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years.

It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord.


 Quoting: Ears To Hear


YEAhh NO.


THE ONLY RAPTURE IS YOU BEING
USURPED UP INTO A HIGHER TYRANNY
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There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word.

Revelation 20:4

"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
 Quoting: Bananael


Whose word?
One the 1830 BS is just that, BS.

Irenaeus
His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture.

"And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.



Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist:

"These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75185162


I stick with scripture.
 Quoting: Bananael


Which scripture points to Darby?
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 Quoting: Ears To Hear




The Tribulation period is the 7 yr period of the 7 yr treaty the Anti Christ signs with Israel.
And Jesus makes this plain, as well as the Old testament and the New Testament.

Sure we live with "Tribulations", that is life. Trying to pretend they are the same as the real Tribulation period is insane.

Revelation shows us what will happen, we will have specific signs in the Heavens,( signs we have never seen yet).
So that blows his argument/theory out of the water!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860464


These are the freemason lies I mentioned in the first post. Bogus lies to deceive Christians so they would let down their guard and be lulled to sleep while the antichrist's kingdom rises up as they slumber.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear

No, they are recorded Scripture and to deny that means you deny God. Revelation is backed up by the OT prophecies, so you are basically throwing out the Whole Bible, as
being written by Freemasons. It is an old Lie.


There is also a biblical warning of tampering with Revelation, from the author,Jesus
Revelation 22:18-20
18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!…"

You are the one trying to corrupt/ destroy the Word of God here, not the Freemasons.
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 Quoting: Ears To Hear




The Tribulation period is the 7 yr period of the 7 yr treaty the Anti Christ signs with Israel.
And Jesus makes this plain, as well as the Old testament and the New Testament.

Sure we live with "Tribulations", that is life. Trying to pretend they are the same as the real Tribulation period is insane.

Revelation shows us what will happen, we will have specific signs in the Heavens,( signs we have never seen yet).
So that blows his argument/theory out of the water!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860464


These are the freemason lies I mentioned in the first post. Bogus lies to deceive Christians so they would let down their guard and be lulled to sleep while the antichrist's kingdom rises up as they slumber.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear

No, they are recorded Scripture and to deny that means you deny God. Revelation is backed up by the OT prophecies, so you are basically throwing out the Whole Bible, as
being written by Freemasons. It is an old Lie.


There is also a biblical warning of tampering with Revelation, from the author,Jesus
Revelation 22:18-20
18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!…"

You are the one trying to corrupt/ destroy the Word of God here, not the Freemasons.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860464


They've already ruined the church. The apostasy is over, and it came at the scripture twisting lies of the 2nd beast of Revelation.
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It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years.

It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord.


 Quoting: Ears To Hear


You have taking the actual time line and put it in your own order. Stick to the exact order of the BIBLE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78782774


The Book of Revelation is not laid out like an A to Z chronology. There are multiple timelines, which need to be rightly divided in order to put them in A to Z order.

The video does this.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear

That is how you can make it seem to say what ever you want, by cherry picking verses out of context, or out of their time line.
Yet the Old Testament and even the Gospels support this timeline of events found in Revelation
God is a God of order, not confusion, the Devil is the Author of confusion.

Revelation was written to explain the end times of the Church and Israel. It was not made to be confusing, jumbled, etc, you do that because you do not understand it.
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In the Book of Revelation it is likened to a harvest.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear


St. Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72731554


The "tares" get taken first.

Matthew 13:37-43

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.



Matthew 24 states the SAME thing using the times of Noah as the example.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


They don't get taken first, they get taken when the trumpet judgments begin. It's the second harvest of Revelation 14. The righteous shining forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father is referring to the Millenial Kingdom.

The hour of testing is right before the trumpet judgments. Watch the video, the scriptures bear this out.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear


I'm sticking with what Jesus said.

It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation.
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So, as we can see by the responses in this thread, freemasons have completely flooded the world with their satanic lies and false doctrines.

#1: There is no "Great Tribulation" period that will be forthcoming.

#2: Revelation 12 begins with the birth of Christ.

#3: The four horseman began being released in the first century, and we are now currently awaiting the 6th seal to be opened.

The real issue isn't that satan has a bunch of liars pushing garbage doctrine upon Christians, it's the fact that Christians have such a low standard for truth they buy all the garbage because it's been stuck in their face for so many decades.

The only solution for the cult of freemasonry sticking bad doctrines in your face is to stick your nose into the Bible to see what it actually says!
 Quoting: Ears To Hear

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... OK ... when Yeshua left for Heaven He told His disciples to disciple the other people in all that He had taught them ...
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... I look around now 1900 years later and what I DO SEE is teaching of SOUL SALVATION but all the other things Yeshua taught ... NOT SO MUCH! ...
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... so! ... WHEN did the FAILURE begin? ... WHO dropped the ball? ...
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St. Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72731554


The "tares" get taken first.

Matthew 13:37-43

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.



Matthew 24 states the SAME thing using the times of Noah as the example.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


They don't get taken first, they get taken when the trumpet judgments begin. It's the second harvest of Revelation 14. The righteous shining forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father is referring to the Millenial Kingdom.

The hour of testing is right before the trumpet judgments. Watch the video, the scriptures bear this out.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear


I'm sticking with what Jesus said.

It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth.
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Enjoy being wed to fake jesus.

You will have earned it.
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Christians to deceived devil worshipers.

At any moment.
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It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years.

It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord.


 Quoting: Ears To Hear


Again...….. please read Matt 13 and Matt 24, there is no rapture, this is false doctrine and not Biblical. So many will depart the faith in the end days, and believing in this crap will be a big part of that!!

I used to be a big rapture doctrine believer, having studied under Hal Lindsey, but then my eyes were opened and I searched out the truth for myself!
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Jesus comes in the darkest part of the night.

Why is it so dark and night time?

Because a bunch ignorant Christians will have run low on oil (wisdom) and jumped into the wedding sack, snoozing all cuddled up with the devil thinking he is Jesus.

That is why.
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I'm sticking with what Jesus said.

It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear

I'm not "rightly handling" scripture?

Really?

This passage shows CLEARLY that the "tares" get taken first.

This also allows for the Believers who have "endured until the end" to happen.

Matthew 13:37-43

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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I'm sticking with what Jesus said.

It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear

I'm not "rightly handling" scripture?

Really?

This passage shows CLEARLY that the "tares" get taken first.

This also allows for the Believers who have "endured until the end" to happen.

Matthew 13:37-43

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


I already explained that verse 43 is about the Millenial Kingdom.

The only way to get a clear chronology is to reconcile a bunch of scriptures with one another, and the video does this.

But I bet you haven't even watched it.
The truth about the timing of the rapture (and it may be soon) can be found here: [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Rapture would be sweet, but I am pretty sure you must die a believer to be excepted into heaven.
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But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear

I'm not "rightly handling" scripture?

Really?

This passage shows CLEARLY that the "tares" get taken first.

This also allows for the Believers who have "endured until the end" to happen.

Matthew 13:37-43

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


I already explained that verse 43 is about the Millenial Kingdom.

The only way to get a clear chronology is to reconcile a bunch of scriptures with one another, and the video does this.

But I bet you haven't even watched it.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear


And the preceding verses don't?

In reality - the passage is doable for BOTH "pre-Millenial kingdom" AND "pre-new Jerusalem / new Earth". All "tares" - anything evil - will be removed first.

You're correct - I didn't watch the video.

I used to be a pre-tribber. NOTHING will change my mind about it BEING true.

It's not.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word.

Revelation 20:4

"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
 Quoting: Bananael


Whose word?
One the 1830 BS is just that, BS.

Irenaeus
His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture.

"And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.



Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist:

"These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75185162


I stick with scripture.
 Quoting: Bananael


Which scripture points to Darby?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75185162


Or Scofield.

.
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Earthquake before rapture. Sooo...never. Got it.
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Great thread OP I’ve always been taught that Christians will be taken out in the rapture before the great tribulation?

Last Edited by Jelly on 05/09/2020 02:31 AM
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