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Ears To Hear (OP) User ID: 78348656 United States 05/03/2020 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years. Quoting: Ears To Hear It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord. You have taking the actual time line and put it in your own order. Stick to the exact order of the BIBLE The Book of Revelation is not laid out like an A to Z chronology. There are multiple timelines, which need to be rightly divided in order to put them in A to Z order. The video does this. |
Baloney User ID: 75923721 United States 05/03/2020 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, exactly. The belief in a pretrib rapture is blatantly unbiblical. It is also setting up a lot of lukewarm Christians that will turn away from their faith when faced with the decision to receive the mark, or die painfully. It is one of the most effective and deceptive tricks ever imposed on the faith. And JUST in time for tribulation. Imagine that. sorry but post trib is wrong. If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth? by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups: goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom. sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus. if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign? Nobody. we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate: Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. that is why post-trib is false. after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth. . |
Servant-of-the-LORD User ID: 78873719 United States 05/03/2020 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry but post trib is wrong. If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth? Quoting: Baloney by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups: goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom. sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus. if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign? Nobody. we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate: Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. that is why post-trib is false. after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth. . Really? 1. There are Believers STILL ALIVE when Jesus returns. Matthew 24 29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*. 1 Thessalonians 4 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 2. The "dead in Christ" are raised when Jesus returns. 3. Those who are under the throne / altar... Revelation 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. Revelation 7 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and hon- our, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, say- ing unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of wa- ters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 05/03/2020 11:34 AM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Baloney User ID: 75923721 United States 05/03/2020 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry but post trib is wrong. If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth? Quoting: Baloney by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups: goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom. sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus. if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign? Nobody. we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate: Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. that is why post-trib is false. after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth. . Really? 1. There are Believers STILL ALIVE when Jesus returns. Yep really. as I said, there will be 2 groups left at the end of the tribulation period. the goats and the sheep. Christ's first order of business is the sheep/goat judgment in which the goats, those who took the mark, are judged and sent off to punishment. the sheep, those who didn't take the mark and survived until the end are the ones left who go into the millennial kingdom. if they are raptured at that time, ie perfected into the eternal body and the dead in christ resurrected at that time, then who would be left to re-populate the Earth? nobody. those who are raptured/resurrected no longer pro-create as they become "like the angels" not marry/be given into marriage meaning no sexual reproduction....just as matthew 22:30 states. that is why a post-trib rapture/resurrection event is not possible. |
Ears To Hear (OP) User ID: 78348656 United States 05/03/2020 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But they will also know that most of humanity, including the foolish virgins, will have to go through the hour of testing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75185162 United States 05/03/2020 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word. Quoting: Bananael Revelation 20:4 "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Whose word? One the 1830 BS is just that, BS. Irenaeus His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture. "And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be. Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist: "These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73822851 United States 05/03/2020 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word. Quoting: Bananael Revelation 20:4 "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Whose word? One the 1830 BS is just that, BS. Irenaeus His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture. "And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be. Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist: "These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)." I stick with scripture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78109950 United States 05/03/2020 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years. Quoting: Ears To Hear It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord. YEAhh NO. THE ONLY RAPTURE IS YOU BEING USURPED UP INTO A HIGHER TYRANNY |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75185162 United States 05/03/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word. Quoting: Bananael Revelation 20:4 "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Whose word? One the 1830 BS is just that, BS. Irenaeus His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture. "And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be. Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist: "These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)." I stick with scripture. Which scripture points to Darby? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78860464 United States 05/03/2020 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Tribulation period is the 7 yr period of the 7 yr treaty the Anti Christ signs with Israel. And Jesus makes this plain, as well as the Old testament and the New Testament. Sure we live with "Tribulations", that is life. Trying to pretend they are the same as the real Tribulation period is insane. Revelation shows us what will happen, we will have specific signs in the Heavens,( signs we have never seen yet). So that blows his argument/theory out of the water! These are the freemason lies I mentioned in the first post. Bogus lies to deceive Christians so they would let down their guard and be lulled to sleep while the antichrist's kingdom rises up as they slumber. No, they are recorded Scripture and to deny that means you deny God. Revelation is backed up by the OT prophecies, so you are basically throwing out the Whole Bible, as being written by Freemasons. It is an old Lie. There is also a biblical warning of tampering with Revelation, from the author,Jesus Revelation 22:18-20 18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!…" You are the one trying to corrupt/ destroy the Word of God here, not the Freemasons. |
Ears To Hear (OP) User ID: 78348656 United States 05/03/2020 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Tribulation period is the 7 yr period of the 7 yr treaty the Anti Christ signs with Israel. And Jesus makes this plain, as well as the Old testament and the New Testament. Sure we live with "Tribulations", that is life. Trying to pretend they are the same as the real Tribulation period is insane. Revelation shows us what will happen, we will have specific signs in the Heavens,( signs we have never seen yet). So that blows his argument/theory out of the water! These are the freemason lies I mentioned in the first post. Bogus lies to deceive Christians so they would let down their guard and be lulled to sleep while the antichrist's kingdom rises up as they slumber. No, they are recorded Scripture and to deny that means you deny God. Revelation is backed up by the OT prophecies, so you are basically throwing out the Whole Bible, as being written by Freemasons. It is an old Lie. There is also a biblical warning of tampering with Revelation, from the author,Jesus Revelation 22:18-20 18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!…" You are the one trying to corrupt/ destroy the Word of God here, not the Freemasons. They've already ruined the church. The apostasy is over, and it came at the scripture twisting lies of the 2nd beast of Revelation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78860464 United States 05/03/2020 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years. Quoting: Ears To Hear It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord. You have taking the actual time line and put it in your own order. Stick to the exact order of the BIBLE The Book of Revelation is not laid out like an A to Z chronology. There are multiple timelines, which need to be rightly divided in order to put them in A to Z order. The video does this. That is how you can make it seem to say what ever you want, by cherry picking verses out of context, or out of their time line. Yet the Old Testament and even the Gospels support this timeline of events found in Revelation God is a God of order, not confusion, the Devil is the Author of confusion. Revelation was written to explain the end times of the Church and Israel. It was not made to be confusing, jumbled, etc, you do that because you do not understand it. |
Servant-of-the-LORD User ID: 78873719 United States 05/03/2020 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | St. Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. The "tares" get taken first. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Matthew 24 states the SAME thing using the times of Noah as the example. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. They don't get taken first, they get taken when the trumpet judgments begin. It's the second harvest of Revelation 14. The righteous shining forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father is referring to the Millenial Kingdom. The hour of testing is right before the trumpet judgments. Watch the video, the scriptures bear this out. I'm sticking with what Jesus said. It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
wisconsin User ID: 78259322 United States 05/03/2020 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, as we can see by the responses in this thread, freemasons have completely flooded the world with their satanic lies and false doctrines. Quoting: Ears To Hear #1: There is no "Great Tribulation" period that will be forthcoming. #2: Revelation 12 begins with the birth of Christ. #3: The four horseman began being released in the first century, and we are now currently awaiting the 6th seal to be opened. The real issue isn't that satan has a bunch of liars pushing garbage doctrine upon Christians, it's the fact that Christians have such a low standard for truth they buy all the garbage because it's been stuck in their face for so many decades. The only solution for the cult of freemasonry sticking bad doctrines in your face is to stick your nose into the Bible to see what it actually says! . ... OK ... when Yeshua left for Heaven He told His disciples to disciple the other people in all that He had taught them ... . ... I look around now 1900 years later and what I DO SEE is teaching of SOUL SALVATION but all the other things Yeshua taught ... NOT SO MUCH! ... . ... so! ... WHEN did the FAILURE begin? ... WHO dropped the ball? ... . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Ears To Hear (OP) User ID: 78348656 United States 05/04/2020 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72731554 St. Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. The "tares" get taken first. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Matthew 24 states the SAME thing using the times of Noah as the example. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. They don't get taken first, they get taken when the trumpet judgments begin. It's the second harvest of Revelation 14. The righteous shining forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father is referring to the Millenial Kingdom. The hour of testing is right before the trumpet judgments. Watch the video, the scriptures bear this out. I'm sticking with what Jesus said. It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation. But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth. |
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trod4777 User ID: 76661958 United States 05/04/2020 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the 6th Seal of Revelation that opens up the period right before the rapture of the wise virgins. This video gives a clear prophetic timeline. It will also squash a lot of the bad doctrines the freemasons have been feeding the church the last 100 years. Quoting: Ears To Hear It's a bit lengthy (24 minutes) but the payout is big and will make things very clear so you are prepared for the return of the Lord. Again...….. please read Matt 13 and Matt 24, there is no rapture, this is false doctrine and not Biblical. So many will depart the faith in the end days, and believing in this crap will be a big part of that!! I used to be a big rapture doctrine believer, having studied under Hal Lindsey, but then my eyes were opened and I searched out the truth for myself! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75528669 United States 05/04/2020 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus comes in the darkest part of the night. Why is it so dark and night time? Because a bunch ignorant Christians will have run low on oil (wisdom) and jumped into the wedding sack, snoozing all cuddled up with the devil thinking he is Jesus. That is why. |
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Servant-of-the-LORD User ID: 43893859 United States 05/04/2020 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sticking with what Jesus said. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation. But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth. I'm not "rightly handling" scripture? Really? This passage shows CLEARLY that the "tares" get taken first. This also allows for the Believers who have "endured until the end" to happen. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Ears To Hear (OP) User ID: 78348656 United States 05/04/2020 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sticking with what Jesus said. Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD It will be sad to see pre-trib folks renounce God and His Son just because they don't get out of tribulation. But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth. I'm not "rightly handling" scripture? Really? This passage shows CLEARLY that the "tares" get taken first. This also allows for the Believers who have "endured until the end" to happen. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. I already explained that verse 43 is about the Millenial Kingdom. The only way to get a clear chronology is to reconcile a bunch of scriptures with one another, and the video does this. But I bet you haven't even watched it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76379157 United States 05/04/2020 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture would be sweet, but I am pretty sure you must die a believer to be excepted into heaven. Give me liberty, or give me death! Guillotine , fire or lead, god is my Shepard. Walking through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear nothing. |
Servant-of-the-LORD User ID: 78879339 United States 05/04/2020 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But you are not rightly handling that scripture. God's word reconciles beautifully, you can't leave out a bunch of other scriptures without losing the truth. Quoting: Ears To Hear I'm not "rightly handling" scripture? Really? This passage shows CLEARLY that the "tares" get taken first. This also allows for the Believers who have "endured until the end" to happen. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. I already explained that verse 43 is about the Millenial Kingdom. The only way to get a clear chronology is to reconcile a bunch of scriptures with one another, and the video does this. But I bet you haven't even watched it. And the preceding verses don't? In reality - the passage is doable for BOTH "pre-Millenial kingdom" AND "pre-new Jerusalem / new Earth". All "tares" - anything evil - will be removed first. You're correct - I didn't watch the video. I used to be a pre-tribber. NOTHING will change my mind about it BEING true. It's not. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76862206 United States 05/06/2020 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no pretrib rapture. It was a theological concept devised in the 1830s by John Darby. I make this statement fully supported by the Word. Quoting: Bananael Revelation 20:4 "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Whose word? One the 1830 BS is just that, BS. Irenaeus His quote that is unmistakably teaching a pre-tribulation rapture. "And therefore, when in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be. Hippolytus, sees the rapture as following the tribulation and rule of the Antichrist: "These things, then, being to come to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? (On Christ and Antichrist)." I stick with scripture. Which scripture points to Darby? Or Scofield. . |
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Jelly User ID: 78858025 United Kingdom 05/09/2020 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread OP I’ve always been taught that Christians will be taken out in the rapture before the great tribulation? Last Edited by *ApPaL* on 05/09/2020 02:31 AM Cymru Am Byth. ^. ^ * * ¥ ~~~ A heart is not judged by how much you love; but by how much you’re loved by others. The Wizard of Oz |