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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78877404 France 05/06/2020 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A mercenary, sometimes known as a soldier of fortune, is an individual who takes part in military conflict for personal profit, is otherwise an outsider to the conflict, and is not a member of any other official military. Mercenaries fight for money or other forms of payment rather than for political interests. Beginning in the 20th century, mercenaries have increasingly come to be seen as less entitled to protections by rules of war than non-mercenaries. Indeed, the Geneva Conventions declare that mercenaries are not recognized as legitimate combatants and do not have to be granted the same legal protections as captured service personnel of a regular army. In practice, whether or not a person is a mercenary may be a matter of degree, as financial and political interests may overlap, as was often the case in all of history. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Mercs don't have the same rights by the Geneva conventions as legal, official army combatants, means they can be liquidated on sight without any consequences. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78877404 France 05/06/2020 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jordan Goudreau, another former Green Beret, said Monday that he was working with the two men in a mission to detain Maduro and “liberate” Venezuela. Goudreau has claimed responsibility for the operation. In a video posted on social media after the botched coup, Goudreau was seen alongside rebel captain Javier Nieto Quintero, saying their men were “continuing to fight.” But in an interview with the Daily Mail, Goudreau claimed their operation was “over” and that his aim was on getting his men back to the US. [link to nypost.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78882483 United States 05/06/2020 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A mercenary, sometimes known as a soldier of fortune, is an individual who takes part in military conflict for personal profit, is otherwise an outsider to the conflict, and is not a member of any other official military. Mercenaries fight for money or other forms of payment rather than for political interests. Beginning in the 20th century, mercenaries have increasingly come to be seen as less entitled to protections by rules of war than non-mercenaries. Indeed, the Geneva Conventions declare that mercenaries are not recognized as legitimate combatants and do not have to be granted the same legal protections as captured service personnel of a regular army. In practice, whether or not a person is a mercenary may be a matter of degree, as financial and political interests may overlap, as was often the case in all of history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78877404 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Mercs don't have the same rights by the Geneva conventions as legal, official army combatants, means they can be liquidated on sight without any consequences. Anyone that works as a merc knows 1 dont get captured, 2 no one is coming if you get captured, it's a risk they accept and take, hes shit out of luck, I'm surprised any agency would even claim employing him |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20151341 United States 05/06/2020 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a Green Beret that served in Iraq and Afghanistan does not give me any confidence in his abilities. Been fighting insurgents that use donkeys and motorcycles in Afghanistan for over 18 years now and Iraqi insurgents have our forces locked down in the FOB's. American forces do not know how to fight wars to a conclusion anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76839403 United States 05/06/2020 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why should he care? Did they not know what shitpile they were stepping into when they put their boots on? Were they not aware of the compensation and possibility of no return when they signed on? What exactly does this have to do with Trump? |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 77993004 United States 05/06/2020 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mercs know that they are not representing the United States when they take the job. They know that the government is not responsible for them, and they know that they can't depend on the government to bail them out. They took the job for money, not for love of country. Let their employer take care of it. I know a guy that did this, but he was lucky enough to come home every time. He did it because the Marines thought he might not be mentally stable enough to be trusted with a gun. They were right. He, like most Mercs, is a drug abuser and could never pass a pee test. Private employers aren't as picky as the Marines. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States 05/06/2020 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why should he care? Did they not know what shitpile they were stepping into when they put their boots on? Were they not aware of the compensation and possibility of no return when they signed on? What exactly does this have to do with Trump? This ! If they were just "mercs" and not u.s.military . they have no hope of backing .If they were hired by the cia...Well good luck with that. "Plausible deniability" being what it is: Watch "American made"( the Barry seal story)with Tom Cruise. After all the gun running ,drug running, and money laundering. And the Feds were closing in on Barry and his flight operation in Mena, Arkansas The Agent who recruited, funded and ran him( whom he knew only as "Shrader"...I think)is walking away... Barry asks: What do we do now "Shrader"? "Shrader keeps walking, replies: "Who the fuck is "Shrader"? Unless these are uniform wearing u.s. troops. President Trump has little to do with it.The CIA has been "off the leash" since its inception. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78882264 05/06/2020 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a Green Beret that served in Iraq and Afghanistan does not give me any confidence in his abilities. Been fighting insurgents that use donkeys and motorcycles in Afghanistan for over 18 years now and Iraqi insurgents have our forces locked down in the FOB's. American forces do not know how to fight wars to a conclusion anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20151341 Been saying this for years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5908832 United States 05/06/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who guarantees the bounty gets paid,currently the fbi and whitehouse cant be trusted to pay,im living proof of that. you guarantee the money in an escrow account and an upfront cost to finance,ill have your guys back uninjured and maduro in cuffs or dead,delivered to the whitehouse gate. but only if its legal. next time hire pros. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76092619 Canada 05/06/2020 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jordan Goudreau, another former Green Beret, said Monday that he was working with the two men in a mission to detain Maduro and “liberate” Venezuela. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78877404 Goudreau has claimed responsibility for the operation. In a video posted on social media after the botched coup, Goudreau was seen alongside rebel captain Javier Nieto Quintero, saying their men were “continuing to fight.” But in an interview with the Daily Mail, Goudreau claimed their operation was “over” and that his aim was on getting his men back to the US. [link to nypost.com (secure)] What it to you, OP? You got a horse in the merc race? Or you trying to spin this shit story to hurt someone? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014882 United States 05/06/2020 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF the mercs are real (albeit amateurs), and IF the native resistance to Commie Dictator Maduro is real, and IF the mercs were there to help the freedom fighters to throw off the chains of their tyranny, then more power to them! Now the resistance needs to step up and rescue them. Contrary to what some believe here, most Western ex-mil. mercs do tend to only work for those they consider to be the "good" guys, meaning they either support their cause, or politically or morally oppose the other side. And most mercs think of themselves as either 'security contractors' or as 'trainers, support personnel, etc.' Invariably these days, mercs tend to be hired by the losing side who is in need of more troops, and has funding to spend on them. They are often fighting a lost cause. The winning side usually has all the money, troops, and military hardware they need. One nation's 'freedom fighter' is another nation's 'terrorist' or 'insurgent'. Who are you rooting for, the freedom fighters or the dictator? |
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