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Forced Vax in South Carolina - Law since 1905 - Update in OP

 
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Gates has a lot of pull in the medical world, he has a multi-million dollar relationship with Dr. Fauci, and Fauci originally took the Gates line supporting vaccines and casting doubt on Chloroquine. Coronavirus response team member Dr. Deborah Birx, appointed by former president Obama to serve as United States Global AIDS Coordinator, also sits on the board of a group that has received billions from Gates’ foundation, and Birx reportedly used a disputed Bill Gates-funded model for the White Houses’ Coronavirus effort.
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This is crazy
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
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War has not been declared by Congress
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They don't need to. They're called emergency powers and they've been used by almost every president since Lincoln.

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Besides, the Nuremberg Code doesn't differentiate between 'declared' states of war and de'facto states of war. It applies to all Nations; that was the point of it, It is International Law.


1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion;


It specifically mentions any form of coercion, duress, or overreaching. Threatening to cut off people's food supply via benefits is most certainly coercion.

Let's stop pretending these 'laws' have any legitimacy. They're committing human rights violations and blatant war crimes now.
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So some pervert could get in to the health department like say a jihadi and order gang rapes for infidels and the law is You must comply with what they say.
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
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And that was overturned by Nuremberg.
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
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And that was overturned by Nuremberg.
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I understand that in essence it really is experimentation, but the argument will stand that it is not so those codes do not apply.
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
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They cannot legitimately command an unproven and novel vaccination that has never been successful and safe be forced on the unwilling.

There have been NO successful vaccines for this class of viruses.
And there probably will never be.
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Go down to redneck country and try this with about 10 redneck hunters that can hit a fly at 100 yards. You will need 40 police and 20 swat members to take care of that little job and about 10 ambulances just for the mess they alone are gonna create . [ right ]
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and then what? maybe a week of extended coverage of their family's grief, and then.....life goes on.
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
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And that was overturned by Nuremberg.
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I understand that in essence it really is experimentation, but the argument will stand that it is not so those codes do not apply.
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It applies to any 'medical procedure'. Since there is no 'sure thing' in medicine, it's all considered 'experimental'.

It absolutely applies.
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
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They cannot legitimately command an unproven and novel vaccination that has never been successful and safe be forced on the unwilling.

There have been NO successful vaccines for this class of viruses.
And there probably will never be.
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Do you mean for corona viruses or RNA viruses?
Because we have had a rabies vaccine since the late 1800s and I’m pretty sure it’s been proven to work. I’m not a virologist or a doctor though so...
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SECTION 44-29-50. Violation of regulation relating to vaccination, screening, or immunization.

Any person who shall fail, neglect or refuse to comply with any regulation of the Department of Health and Environmental Control relating to vaccination, screening or immunization shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars or be imprisoned for not more than thirty days.

HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 32-578; 1952 Code Section 32-578; 1942 Code Section 5042; 1932 Code Section 1503; Cr. C. '22 Section 451; Cr. C. '12 Section 441; 1905 (24) 871; 1972 (57) 2523.

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I live in SC - this is terrifying.
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
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And that was overturned by Nuremberg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897

I understand that in essence it really is experimentation, but the argument will stand that it is not so those codes do not apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40203040


It applies to any 'medical procedure'. Since there is no 'sure thing' in medicine, it's all considered 'experimental'.

It absolutely applies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897


Most procedures have passed experimental studies before being offered to the public and therefore are no longer considered experimental. I mean I get it, but that’s what the argument will be and when people feel your choices or freedom affects their safety they will throw freedom out every time. If public opinion is on the side of the law, and it will be probably, freedom won’t matter.
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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40203040


And that was overturned by Nuremberg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897

I understand that in essence it really is experimentation, but the argument will stand that it is not so those codes do not apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40203040


It applies to any 'medical procedure'. Since there is no 'sure thing' in medicine, it's all considered 'experimental'.

It absolutely applies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897


Besides, it was further codified by the Declaration of Helsinki:

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The Declaration of Helsinki also marked the arrival of “clinical research,” a field that was previously referred to as ‘Human Experimentation’ in the Nuremberg Code. Furthermore, it introduced a caveat to the consideration of the process for informed consent as an ‘essential’ portion of research, as stated in the Nuremberg Code; according to the Declaration of Helsinki, physicians would be asked to obtain consent ‘if at all possible’ and could be allowed to omit a traditional informed consent form when a legally authorized representative is available.



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Unproven Interventions in Clinical Practice

37. In the treatment of an individual patient, where proven interventions do not exist or other known interventions have been ineffective, the physician, after seeking expert advice, with informed consent from the patient or a legally authorised representative, may use an unproven intervention if in the physician’s judgement it offers hope of saving life, re-establishing health or alleviating suffering. This intervention should subsequently be made the object of research, designed to evaluate its safety and efficacy. In all cases, new information must be recorded and, where appropriate, made publicly available.


Even these vaccine makers essentially state the Caveat that these vaccines 'may not work'. They are completely unproven.

Nurenberg and Helsinki apply.
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And that was overturned by Nuremberg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897

I understand that in essence it really is experimentation, but the argument will stand that it is not so those codes do not apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40203040


It applies to any 'medical procedure'. Since there is no 'sure thing' in medicine, it's all considered 'experimental'.

It absolutely applies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897


Most procedures have passed experimental studies before being offered to the public and therefore are no longer considered experimental. I mean I get it, but that’s what the argument will be and when people feel your choices or freedom affects their safety they will throw freedom out every time. If public opinion is on the side of the law, and it will be probably, freedom won’t matter.
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Right, I get what 'there' argument will be. However vaccine 'studies' don't rely on any controlled laboratory experimentation or verifiable evidence, they rely only on 'statistics' that are un-reproducable in any other study. Therefore no two studies will show the same result. Therefore they are still 'experimental'.

Of course, the traitorous liberal judges will dismiss this evidence in favor of the vaccine makers logical fallacies and public 'law', because that's what they're paid to do, uphold crimes against humanity.

I wouldn't go this 'direct' route in court anyway. It's all under the commerce clause, therefore it is inferred that there is a creditor and a debtor. Pay the bill. Another way.
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And that was overturned by Nuremberg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897

I understand that in essence it really is experimentation, but the argument will stand that it is not so those codes do not apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40203040


It applies to any 'medical procedure'. Since there is no 'sure thing' in medicine, it's all considered 'experimental'.

It absolutely applies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897


Besides, it was further codified by the Declaration of Helsinki:

[link to www.imarcresearch.com (secure)]

The Declaration of Helsinki also marked the arrival of “clinical research,” a field that was previously referred to as ‘Human Experimentation’ in the Nuremberg Code. Furthermore, it introduced a caveat to the consideration of the process for informed consent as an ‘essential’ portion of research, as stated in the Nuremberg Code; according to the Declaration of Helsinki, physicians would be asked to obtain consent ‘if at all possible’ and could be allowed to omit a traditional informed consent form when a legally authorized representative is available.



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Unproven Interventions in Clinical Practice

37. In the treatment of an individual patient, where proven interventions do not exist or other known interventions have been ineffective, the physician, after seeking expert advice, with informed consent from the patient or a legally authorised representative, may use an unproven intervention if in the physician’s judgement it offers hope of saving life, re-establishing health or alleviating suffering. This intervention should subsequently be made the object of research, designed to evaluate its safety and efficacy. In all cases, new information must be recorded and, where appropriate, made publicly available.


Even these vaccine makers essentially state the Caveat that these vaccines 'may not work'. They are completely unproven.

Nurenberg and Helsinki apply.
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parens patriae
The State is a legally authorized representative to consent on our behalf if we are deemed unfit to do so ourselves or for our children. And not wanting th vaccine itself could be reason enough to find someone unfit in their eyes.
I’m not arguing for this at all, I’m just saying there are no laws on our side and legally speaking they will find a way around it.
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The CDC is a privately owned enterprise consisting of a LONG laundry list of donors

Established by Congress more than two decades ago, the CDC Foundation is an independent, 501(c)(3) public charity.

The foundation's job is to fund the CDC with private corporate money. This creates a De Facto private enterprise that works for the benefits of the sponsors, not the American people. The conflicts of interest should be glaring to anyone who takes the time to look. How can a supposed independent agency act for the interests of the people when their paychecks are coming from corporations and wealthy people?

[link to www.cdcfoundation.org (secure)]

Let's have a look at just a few corporate sponsors of 'your' CDC:


Abbott Ireland
Academic Hospital Paramaribo
Affimedix, Inc.
AmazonSmile Foundation
American Association for Clinical Chemistry
American Type Culture Collection
Amgen Foundation
Amgen Inc.
ARUP Laboratories
Atlanta Chapter Daughters of The American Revolution
Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade
Bayer U.S. LLC
BD
Beckman Coulter, Inc.
Benevity Community Impact Fund
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
Biogen MA Inc.
Biohit Laboratory Services
BioReference Laboratories, Inc.
Bloomberg Philanthropies
Boditech Med Inc.
Boston Children's Hospital
Brigham and Women's Hospital
Brown University
C.D.C. Chapter 1419 NARFE
Cargill, Inc.
CDC Federal Credit Union
Centennial Medical Center
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Centre Hospitalier Universitaire of Liege
Cerilliant Corporation
Chambers Family Foundation
Charities Aid Foundation of America:
Carmen H. Villar, MSW
Chemux Bioscience, Inc.
Chromesystems Instruments & Chemicals GmbH
Clarivate Analytics
Classy, Inc.
Clemson University
College of American Pathologists
Columbia University
Community Foundation of Central Georgia, Inc.
Conrad N. Hilton Foundation
Covance Central Laboratory Services
Delaware Academy of Medicine / Delaware Public Health Association
Diagnostics Biochem Canada Inc.
DiaSorin Inc.
DiaSource Immunoassays SA
Diazyme Laboratories
Emory University
Eurofins Biomnis
Euroimmun Medizinische Labordiagnostika AG
Eventbrite
Facebook
FIA Foundation
Fidelity Charitable Gift Fund:
Betensky-Kraut Family Fund
Bruce & Susi Willis Gift Fund
The Hunter Family Fund
Jacobs Family Fund
Kaunitz Family Charitable Fund
Klepchick Family Fund
Kreuter/Katz Family Fund
Lisa A. Mills Fund
Lubitz/Monroe Charitable Fund
Martha and Robert Supnik Charitable Fund
Murphy-Gittleman Family Fund
The Nancy C. Lee Giving Fund
Paul and Beverly Truebig Gift Fund
Peter Dull and Judith Tsui Charitable Family Fund
Petruzzelli/Herrera Fund
Philip I. Kent Charitable Fund
Vickery Perniciaro Family Fund
Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics
Four Seasons Environmental, Inc.
Fremont Area Community Foundation, Inc.
GAVI Alliance
GiveWell
GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals S.A.
Global Blood Therapeutics, Inc.
Global Inc.
Good Ventures Foundation
Government of Canada
Greater Cleveland Community Shares
Heartland Assays LLC
HONOReform Foundation
IBM Employee Services Center
Immunodiagnostic Systems Inc.
Imperial College London
International Union Against Tuberculosis and Lung Disease
Intervet International B.V.
Iodine Global Network


IQ Solutions
James F. and Sarah T. Fries Foundation
James W. Down Company, Inc.
JAMF Nation Global Foundation
Job-Site Safety Institute
Johns Hopkins University
King Saud University
The Kresge Foundation
Laboratory Corporation of America Holdings
Los Angeles Biomedical Research Institute
Luminex Corporation
Magee-Womens Research Institute and Foundation
Marcel J Vinduska Revocable Trust
May P. And Francis L. Abreu Charitable Trust
Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research
The Merck Foundation
Merck Sharp & Dohme Corp.
Microgenics Corporation
Monobind Inc.
MTM Foundation
National Philanthropic Trust
Nelson Family Foundation
Network for Good
Northside Kiwanis Foundation
Nutrition International
Oak Crest Institute of Science
Omaha Community Foundation
Open Philanthropy Project
Ortho-Clinical Diagnostics
Partners HealthCare System, Inc.
Pathology Associates Medical Laboratories
Pennington Biomedical Research Foundation
Pennsylvania State University
Pew Charitable Trusts
Quest Diagnostics
RB Health (US) LLC
R-Biopharm Inc.
Reckitt Benckiser, Inc.
The Regents of the University of New Mexico
Richard E. & Marianne B. Kipper Foundation
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
Roche Diagnostics Corporation
Sabin Vaccine Institute
Saul D. Levy Foundation
Schwab Charitable Fund:
Adler Family Charitable Fund
Brody Charitable Fund
John Schnitker/Elizabeth Weaver Charitable Fund
Karen and Marvin Whaley Fund
Ruth J. Katz Charitable Fund
Shands/Mulinare Family Charitable Fund
SCIEX
Sergey Brin Family Foundation
Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics, Inc.
Snibe Diagnostics (Snibe Co., Ltd.)
Social Good Fund
Taylor and Francis Group, LLC
The Community Foundation for Greater Atlanta, Inc.:
Charles H & Margaret McTier Fund
Jeffrey & Carol Koplan Family Fund
Robert Yellowlees Family Fund
Thermo Fisher Scientific, Inc.
Three Rivers Community Foundation
Tosoh Corporation
Tri-State Gastroenterology
Truist
Tull Charitable Foundation
UBS Donor-Advised Fund
Ullmann Family Foundation
UNICEF
United Nations Foundation
United Way of Central New Mexico
United Way of Greater Atlanta, Inc.
University of Arizona
University of Connecticut
University of Georgia
University of Louisville
University of Michigan
University of Minnesota
University of New Mexico
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
University of Western Australia
Vanguard Charitable:
The Stuart H. Hillman Fund
Vestergaard Frandsen SA
Virginia Commonwealth University Health System
Vital Strategies
The Walker School
Waters Ireland LTD
The Wilson Family Foundation
Wolters Kluwer Health
World Health Organization
Zhejiang Disigns Diagnostics

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It’s already passed Supreme Court ruling years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40203040


They cannot legitimately command an unproven and novel vaccination that has never been successful and safe be forced on the unwilling.

There have been NO successful vaccines for this class of viruses.
And there probably will never be.
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Do you mean for corona viruses or RNA viruses?
Because we have had a rabies vaccine since the late 1800s and I’m pretty sure it’s been proven to work. I’m not a virologist or a doctor though so...
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There are no proven safe or effective RNA corona virus vaccines or HIV vaccines and not for the lack of trying. This is what is being discussed and probable mandated.

Nobody is suggesting mandated Rabies so thats not in play here. Whether or not there are issues with rabies vaccined effectiveness in humans or not is up to some debate, and may be why its not really recommended in humans.
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I understand that in essence it really is experimentation, but the argument will stand that it is not so those codes do not apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40203040


It applies to any 'medical procedure'. Since there is no 'sure thing' in medicine, it's all considered 'experimental'.

It absolutely applies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897


Besides, it was further codified by the Declaration of Helsinki:

[link to www.imarcresearch.com (secure)]

The Declaration of Helsinki also marked the arrival of “clinical research,” a field that was previously referred to as ‘Human Experimentation’ in the Nuremberg Code. Furthermore, it introduced a caveat to the consideration of the process for informed consent as an ‘essential’ portion of research, as stated in the Nuremberg Code; according to the Declaration of Helsinki, physicians would be asked to obtain consent ‘if at all possible’ and could be allowed to omit a traditional informed consent form when a legally authorized representative is available.



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Unproven Interventions in Clinical Practice

37. In the treatment of an individual patient, where proven interventions do not exist or other known interventions have been ineffective, the physician, after seeking expert advice, with informed consent from the patient or a legally authorised representative, may use an unproven intervention if in the physician’s judgement it offers hope of saving life, re-establishing health or alleviating suffering. This intervention should subsequently be made the object of research, designed to evaluate its safety and efficacy. In all cases, new information must be recorded and, where appropriate, made publicly available.


Even these vaccine makers essentially state the Caveat that these vaccines 'may not work'. They are completely unproven.

Nurenberg and Helsinki apply.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78446897

parens patriae
The State is a legally authorized representative to consent on our behalf if we are deemed unfit to do so ourselves or for our children. And not wanting th vaccine itself could be reason enough to find someone unfit in their eyes.
I’m not arguing for this at all, I’m just saying there are no laws on our side and legally speaking they will find a way around it.
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Yes, I agree, the Nazi ideology lives on strongly in America. They used the same types of arguments.

However, Nuremberg still doesn't differentiate between children and adults, so this is non sequitur in terms of actual deductive reasoning. Yet we all know there is no law here in the States, only color of law.

I understand perfectly what you're saying, the government deems every adult and child an 'infant' in our commercial system. They've become 'Wards of the Court', including adults. I've heard the judge use that term on adult prisoners many times.

(a)In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
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Hmmmm.. so they define only 'infants', no adults, according to any act of Congress. Interesting.

Let's examine the Maxim:

Inclusio unius est exclusio alterius. The inclusion of one is the exclusion of another.

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Let's further examine:'Ward of the court':

A person, especially an infant or incompetent, placed by the court in the care of a guardian.

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How convenient of them to only include infants in their statutory definition of 'persons'.

It doesn't matter anyway, it's all color of law.
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Just typed this up. Feel free to use or modify as needed.

Please CALL your reps. Its is important to state that you are a constituent of that legislator by giving your city and state

Tim Scott’s name is included below ...but call every representative in your district. I will make another post of phone numbers to call



Hi, my name is [NAME] and I'm a constituent from CITY, STATE

I'm calling to express my outrage over SECTION 44-29-50 of the Code of Laws as being presented in the SC Code of Laws

SECTION 44-29-50. is related to the alleged “Violation of regulation relating to vaccination, screening, or immunization.”

This gravely concerns me as a citizen of America because mandatory vaccines infringe upon constitutionally protected religious freedoms. Several religions oppose vaccines and mandatory vaccinations. The First Amendment of the US Constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

This is established legal restriction on forced vaccines that still allow citizens to exempt from putting poisonous, man-made chemicals in their body. There is no third-party proof that vaccines even work as intended or are safe. Nor do vaccinations prevent contagions, they can be spread regardless if a person is vaccinated.

Our Constitutionally protected, God-given Rights, have NO exemption for any emergency situations. And that includes any biological “emergencies.”

In SC Marbury vs Madison...the final decision states: ”all laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.”

If I choose to allow my body to live naturally and to fight off any disease or contagion that it encounters...that is expressly my Human Right & the pursuit of freedom to do so. My body ...my choice.

I urge Senator Tim Scott and his colleagues to reconsider this section and to expressly remove mandatory vaccinations.

Thank you for your hard work answering the phones.





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Calls should take less than a minute. You’ll be speaking to a staffer, so make your point clearly so they can tally your opinion correctly. The provided scripts are useful but you can add your own words.Be respectful. The staffers that pick up the phone aren’t looking to challenge you and you should treat them with the same respect you expect from them, regardless of which party they work for.


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I’d pay the $100 and be over it. Let’s say it does pass. $100 seems like a good deal in the grand scheme of things, especially regarding the Rona vaccine, that I’m damn sure not taking.
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Just call someone!
Script is above or make up your own!
It only takes ONE minute!

If your reps are different, then either look them up or someone who answers the contacts below can re-route you



US Sen Lindsay Graham (R) - 202-224-5972

US Sen Tim Scott (R) - 202-224-6121

Governor Henry McMaster (R) - 803-734-2100

US Rep William Timmons (R) 202-225-6030

State Sen Dwight Loftus (R) 803-212-6100

State rep Adam Morgan (R) Greenville county - 864-517-7068
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Just pay the 100 $ fine and move on.
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REVOLT TIME
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i am glad for this.everyone needs protection from this virus.i dont want to die from it,or cause someone else's death
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SECTION 44-29-50. Violation of regulation relating to vaccination, screening, or immunization.

Any person who shall fail, neglect or refuse to comply with any regulation of the Department of Health and Environmental Control relating to vaccination, screening or immunization shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars or be imprisoned for not more than thirty days.

HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 32-578; 1952 Code Section 32-578; 1942 Code Section 5042; 1932 Code Section 1503; Cr. C. '22 Section 451; Cr. C. '12 Section 441; 1905 (24) 871; 1972 (57) 2523.

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I live in SC - this is terrifying.
 Quoting: Turtle Flower


Just 100 dollar fine. I guess anybody can afford this new tax.
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SECTION 44-29-50. Violation of regulation relating to vaccination, screening, or immunization.

Any person who shall fail, neglect or refuse to comply with any regulation of the Department of Health and Environmental Control relating to vaccination, screening or immunization shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars or be imprisoned for not more than thirty days.

HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 32-578; 1952 Code Section 32-578; 1942 Code Section 5042; 1932 Code Section 1503; Cr. C. '22 Section 451; Cr. C. '12 Section 441; 1905 (24) 871; 1972 (57) 2523.

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I live in SC - this is terrifying.
 Quoting: Turtle Flower


What the hell are you worried about?

You live in The Land of the Free!

epiclol
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I'd rather pay a fine and go to jail.
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You know if you're incarcerated.... they own your body...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78122291


Exactly, you'll get your vaccine during your booking process and then 30 days later be allowed to attempt to now rejoin society with the blemish of an arrest record.





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