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Just How Inflated Are Coronavirus Death Counts, Exactly?

 
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We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
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Average amount charged to an insurance company for a person out on a ventilator for 3 days for normal influenza is over $80,000. (pre covid prices) People who were never on the vent who were diagnosed with coronary were getting $30,000 hospital bills.

Do you have any any how completely ridiculous you sound by pretending that a Massive under payment is a gold mind???
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Sure are a lot of virustards in this thread. If you can't recognize that this pandemic is mostly bullshit then you're a fucking imbecile. Stay at home cowering in fear, sheep.
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Donald Trump March 9: "There seems to be a Leftist trope that the Covid19 is a “hoax.” You do a disservice by spreading fake information."
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Not True (Lie)

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I read your twitter link.
He says the hoax theory comes from the left.
Well, truly, the left seems to be more believers in the high COVID-19 counts. The right seem to believe more in the hoax theory.

Am I wrong?
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Over report the deaths. Under report the cases. This gives the "dying in the streets" numbers. Multiply the cases by 10 or divide the deaths by 10 and the "shut them all down" numbers disappear.
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Exponentially beyond comprehension inflated
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Re: Just How Inflated Are Coronavirus Death Counts, Exactly?
We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
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Absolutely true! These evil Globalist psychopaths also took away other lucrative surgeries for hospitals as non-essential, escalating their need for the $13,000 Death Certificate money. Their scheme to make this look legitimate failed miserably!! Their 5G installations are very real & will give them the power & Control they are seeking unless people PRAY AGAINST it & take other action!!!!
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Plus there are videos of doctors complaining that they are being pushed to put COVID-19 on death reports.
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Many videos and tweets from doctors saying this.
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So if these numbers are extrapolated nationwide, of the 87,218 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the US, as few as 2,891 are “pure, solely coronavirus deaths?”

And we have destroyed the economy for this?

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Last month, New York funeral home directors blew the whistle about inflated coronavirus death numbers. Death certificates mark “COVID-19” as the cause of death even when the deceased hadn’t tested positive for coronavirus, much less actually died of the virus. This week, a San Diego county supervisor suggested the numbers are even more inflated.

“We’ve unfortunately had six pure, solely coronavirus deaths — six out of 3.3 million people,” County Supervisor Jim Desmond said on the radio show Armstrong & Getty Extra Large Interviews., The San Diego Union-Tribune reported. San Diego County had reported roughly 190 deaths at the time — the current number is 200.

Desmond went on to criticize California’s lockdown. “I mean, what number are we trying to get to with those odds. I mean, it’s incredible. We want to be safe, and we can do it, but unfortunately, it’s more about control than getting the economy going again and keeping people safe,” he said.

In short, Desmond was suggesting that while COVID-19 may have contributed to the 190 deaths, most of those deaths were due in part to previous, unrelated health concerns.

Indeed, the disease has proven most deadly for people with underlying health conditions, so it stands to reason that “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” would be the minority — perhaps even just 3.2 percent of the total recorded deaths, as Desmond suggested.

As of Friday afternoon, there have been 87,218 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S. If Desmond’s claim is accurate and if that 3.2 percent rate holds across the country, and discounting the death certificate inflation, that would mean there are only 2,891 “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” in the U.S.


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We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.
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Not when you consisder the great number whom does not seek medical help. In my immediate circle there are 4 of us, almost succumed but felt safer to handle it ourselves. Also, many more deathes at home, more than likely folks dying of other things attributed to covid.

What is funny is, we were told to get tested by a friend whom believed trump that there was adaquate testing available, i knew better.
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We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Average amount charged to an insurance company for a person out on a ventilator for 3 days for normal influenza is over $80,000. (pre covid prices) People who were never on the vent who were diagnosed with coronary were getting $30,000 hospital bills.

Do you have any any how completely ridiculous you sound by pretending that a Massive under payment is a gold mind???
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Do you realize how insane it is to charge $80 fucking thousand dollars for 3 days of the ventilator?

That IS a gold mine. That is how fucked our healthcare system has become. Ventilators cost around $15,000-$20,000. There is nothing magical about them or the staff required to run them. Just like the $50,000 that hospitals try to charge for Careflights. Something should be done to stop this kind of excessive billing. No wonder insurance is so expensive.
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Where is the chart that shows how many people die every year and what they die of??? So we can compare to this year with the CV???

How cum Cuomo doesn't show that every day?

Can u imagine someone on tv saying the Chicago Bears are in first place...but no scores listed, no games shown, no first downs reported,...

" just a clown holding up a sign saying Bears have 10 wins now!"

Wow--He is so impressive, he should run instead of Biden.

& where the fuk iz Orange Hero...he's too dumb to expose this shit???

wtf
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My husband was saying that yesterday - where are the charts so we can compare #s and causes of death last year with this year? They're definitely hiding influenza deaths, they stopped even counting them, I think back in April. Probably earlier than that, but that's when the govt stopped counting them.
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So if these numbers are extrapolated nationwide, of the 87,218 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the US, as few as 2,891 are “pure, solely coronavirus deaths?”

And we have destroyed the economy for this?

-------------------------------------------------------------​------------------------------------------------------


Last month, New York funeral home directors blew the whistle about inflated coronavirus death numbers. Death certificates mark “COVID-19” as the cause of death even when the deceased hadn’t tested positive for coronavirus, much less actually died of the virus. This week, a San Diego county supervisor suggested the numbers are even more inflated.

“We’ve unfortunately had six pure, solely coronavirus deaths — six out of 3.3 million people,” County Supervisor Jim Desmond said on the radio show Armstrong & Getty Extra Large Interviews., The San Diego Union-Tribune reported. San Diego County had reported roughly 190 deaths at the time — the current number is 200.

Desmond went on to criticize California’s lockdown. “I mean, what number are we trying to get to with those odds. I mean, it’s incredible. We want to be safe, and we can do it, but unfortunately, it’s more about control than getting the economy going again and keeping people safe,” he said.

In short, Desmond was suggesting that while COVID-19 may have contributed to the 190 deaths, most of those deaths were due in part to previous, unrelated health concerns.

Indeed, the disease has proven most deadly for people with underlying health conditions, so it stands to reason that “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” would be the minority — perhaps even just 3.2 percent of the total recorded deaths, as Desmond suggested.

As of Friday afternoon, there have been 87,218 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S. If Desmond’s claim is accurate and if that 3.2 percent rate holds across the country, and discounting the death certificate inflation, that would mean there are only 2,891 “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” in the U.S.


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Under reported fools
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This will be exposed for everyone to see by the end of the year. When they look back on the cause-of-death stats for this period they are going to see the rate of deaths from cancer, heart disease, diabetes, influenza and strokes sudden and mysteriously dropped dramatically. Because many of those deaths were classified as COVID-19.
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We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Average amount charged to an insurance company for a person out on a ventilator for 3 days for normal influenza is over $80,000. (pre covid prices) People who were never on the vent who were diagnosed with coronary were getting $30,000 hospital bills.

Do you have any any how completely ridiculous you sound by pretending that a Massive under payment is a gold mind???
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Do you realize how insane it is to charge $80 fucking thousand dollars for 3 days of the ventilator?

That IS a gold mine. That is how fucked our healthcare system has become. Ventilators cost around $15,000-$20,000. There is nothing magical about them or the staff required to run them. Just like the $50,000 that hospitals try to charge for Careflights. Something should be done to stop this kind of excessive billing. No wonder insurance is so expensive.
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Well actually it does take a highly trained respiratory specialist to run them, but they probably make 100k per year so in 3 days seeing how one specialist can oversee several machines you've paid off their salary, benefits, the ventilators, and on day 4 you're turning a profit.
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We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Average amount charged to an insurance company for a person out on a ventilator for 3 days for normal influenza is over $80,000. (pre covid prices) People who were never on the vent who were diagnosed with coronary were getting $30,000 hospital bills.

Do you have any any how completely ridiculous you sound by pretending that a Massive under payment is a gold mind???
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Do you realize how insane it is to charge $80 fucking thousand dollars for 3 days of the ventilator?

That IS a gold mine. That is how fucked our healthcare system has become. Ventilators cost around $15,000-$20,000. There is nothing magical about them or the staff required to run them. Just like the $50,000 that hospitals try to charge for Careflights. Something should be done to stop this kind of excessive billing. No wonder insurance is so expensive.
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Everything around this COVID SCAM has been a bonanza for "somebody". Laura Ingraham was reporting on the hospital ships, in LA & NYC, how they had hardly any patients and cost many tens of millions of dollars. I can't even remember the costs, they're so high. And all those special tents the military set up in different parts of the country? Most of them had hardly ANY patients, like not even a dozen, and they cost tens of millions of dollars.

When we see how much money has been wasted and scammed over this whole COVID BULLSHIT, the total is going to be MIND BLOWING. And I have to wonder how many politicians, and bureaucrats and "health officials", etc, have money invested in companies that are reaping the benefit.

Somebodies have made MUCH MONEY through corona virus.
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See Laura Ingraham's show last night 5/15/20, if you can, she's one of the ONLY people who have been honestly reporting on this corona virus bullshit since the beginning, and even SHE won't do certain things like ask Dr. Fraudi about his grants to the Wuhan Bio Lab (and I know she knows about them because she wrote about it on her Twitter when the Newsweek article came out. I guess Fox won't let anyone criticize Fraudi.)
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We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Average amount charged to an insurance company for a person out on a ventilator for 3 days for normal influenza is over $80,000. (pre covid prices) People who were never on the vent who were diagnosed with coronary were getting $30,000 hospital bills.

Do you have any any how completely ridiculous you sound by pretending that a Massive under payment is a gold mind???
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Do you realize how insane it is to charge $80 fucking thousand dollars for 3 days of the ventilator?

That IS a gold mine. That is how fucked our healthcare system has become. Ventilators cost around $15,000-$20,000. There is nothing magical about them or the staff required to run them. Just like the $50,000 that hospitals try to charge for Careflights. Something should be done to stop this kind of excessive billing. No wonder insurance is so expensive.
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Well actually it does take a highly trained respiratory specialist to run them, but they probably make 100k per year so in 3 days seeing how one specialist can oversee several machines you've paid off their salary, benefits, the ventilators, and on day 4 you're turning a profit.
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Remember when New York City covid deaths jumped from 6589 to 10,367 overnight by adding in 3778 that were never tested?

That's more than 33%! Until someone presents something more accurate, I have to go with at least inflated by 1/3

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Remember when New York City covid deaths jumped from 6589 to 10,367 overnight by adding in 3778 that were never tested?

That's more than 33%! Until someone presents something more accurate, I have to go with at least inflated by 1/3

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The problem is we can't trust any of these people. We have such an incredibly toxic mix of Leftist Dems pushing agendas, pols who want police states, people of all types grifting for money, and those who are just INCOMPETENT and wrong in their models and beliefs. How can we filter out the truth through all that?
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Not a death but a case. Toddler had pink eye parent was informed that child was now diagnosed with covid 19 over the phone oh and please do not bring child to dr but follow cdc guidelines for quarantine
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Remember when New York City covid deaths jumped from 6589 to 10,367 overnight by adding in 3778 that were never tested?

That's more than 33%! Until someone presents something more accurate, I have to go with at least inflated by 1/3

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The problem is we can't trust any of these people. We have such an incredibly toxic mix of Leftist Dems pushing agendas, pols who want police states, people of all types grifting for money, and those who are just INCOMPETENT and wrong in their models and beliefs. How can we filter out the truth through all that?
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That's the biggest problem. Propaganda on every freaking side.

You have experts saying a mild infection with no symptoms delivers life long immunity. How would she know that? Other experts saying recovering doesn't confer any immunity or only a very temporary type of immunity. Yet other experts saying we need to be locked down until fall. Other experts saying masks don't work at all, countered by experts saying they definitely prevent spread. Then you have self-appointed experts saying there isn't a contagion of any sort at all, but they go flatly against the experience of many who have actually had the disease and fought it.

What's that saying? I believe it is, "Truth is the first casualty in any war"... Pretty sure that's it and that's certainly where we are in this whole thing.

Getting the actual, unfiltered truth, so people can make intelligent and informed decisions, is impossible.

And then the opposing factions are pitting us against each other. One wears a mask in public and another scowls and detests them for doing so and vice versa.

The only completely certain things are that some evil bastards wish to capitalize on this and inject people with vaccines which are not proven to be safe and/or effective. Many of the same wish to completely destroy our individual nations and overthrow all semblance of freedom.

Also, we know that we have cures/treatments that are cheap and quite effective. HCQ and zinc and Ivermectin at the top of the list.

So we can beat this, and we must open up or we definitely lose our country.

I just wish there were an government sanctioned expert that would promote effective prophylactic measures. Doing that might make me believe something else they may say.
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I have been trying to find a website that has the number of deaths in the us on a certain day this year vs last year, and then state by state. I’m wondering too about the deaths of elderly people. I’m sure a lot of the deaths in these long term care facilities are because they weren’t sending them to the hospital for the usual things they go for. I worked at one and I know out of the 40-50 residents there were at least one or 2 in the hospital all the time for other things. At least one or two died every 6 weeks or so. This was a retirement /memory care facility not a nursing home. In other words, some didn’t die of the Coronavirus, they died because of it. They would have gone to the hospital and got their blood pressure regulated, fluid drained or a infection healed etc....
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We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
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Where is the chart that shows how many people die every year and what they die of??? So we can compare to this year with the CV???

How cum Cuomo doesn't show that every day?

Can u imagine someone on tv saying the Chicago Bears are in first place...but no scores listed, no games shown, no first downs reported,...

" just a clown holding up a sign saying Bears have 10 wins now!"

Wow--He is so impressive, he should run instead of Biden.

& where the fuk iz Orange Hero...he's too dumb to expose this shit???

wtf
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My husband was saying that yesterday - where are the charts so we can compare #s and causes of death last year with this year? They're definitely hiding influenza deaths, they stopped even counting them, I think back in April. Probably earlier than that, but that's when the govt stopped counting them.
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Deaths are under reported. You have the ability to navigate the internet, at least a little bit. It will take you less than 5 minutes to understand this issue. Google is your friend. While you're at it it check out some of the analysis of this site. I come here whenever I need a little comic relief. The lack of rational thought frequently displayed here is staggering.
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I have been trying to find a website that has the number of deaths in the us on a certain day this year vs last year, and then state by state. I’m wondering too about the deaths of elderly people. I’m sure a lot of the deaths in these long term care facilities are because they weren’t sending them to the hospital for the usual things they go for. I worked at one and I know out of the 40-50 residents there were at least one or 2 in the hospital all the time for other things. At least one or two died every 6 weeks or so. This was a retirement /memory care facility not a nursing home. In other words, some didn’t die of the Coronavirus, they died because of it. They would have gone to the hospital and got their blood pressure regulated, fluid drained or a infection healed etc....
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Purdy schoon they will be sending our stimulus checks Direct to the soylent green abuse factory nursing homes.

They must have made a deal with the chins not to invade.
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Deaths are under reported. You have the ability to navigate the internet, at least a little bit. It will take you less than 5 minutes to understand this issue. Google is your friend. While you're at it it check out some of the analysis of this site. I come here whenever I need a little comic relief. The lack of rational thought frequently displayed here is staggering.
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Eat shit Fauci....we're paying u goubbermint goons to provide details.
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Deaths are under reported. You have the ability to navigate the internet, at least a little bit. It will take you less than 5 minutes to understand this issue. Google is your friend. While you're at it it check out some of the analysis of this site. I come here whenever I need a little comic relief. The lack of rational thought frequently displayed here is staggering.
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This thread is filled with anons claiming this exact thing but with zero evidence. Over and over. It's very strange.

Care to elaborate or provide anything at all?

Google is not my friend. I want you to provide any sort of evidence for your claim.

I'll wait.
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The good news is death from heart attacks, flu, diabetes, murder are almost 0.
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When someone commits suicide and jumps off a building, they don't die because of suicide, they die because their body impacted the ground.

If someone is killed by a person with a gun, it's not that the person died due to someone shooting him - no, it's because a gun shot a bullet and the persons skin was unable to stop the bullet.

You people that are trying to find any case of someone who dies while infected with the bio-weapon created in China, and claim it is not a bio-weapon death, are fucking retarded. When people get sick, the body does all it can to remove the invading host and in the process, other shit starts to fail. If someone dies of a heart attack while infected with the bio-weapon, how do you know the heart didn't fail because the body could no longer handle running all normal functions while infected with the bio-weapon?

People don't die because they have Ebola, they die because their organs and skin can no longer hold blood in... right?
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What type of Retaliation would occur if Trump found out the World has been Conned by the Corona Virus Hoax.

Who and what do you think he will go after?

Who's Wealth will disappear?
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Its already happening.
This is later phase asymmetrical warfare that started about 5 years ago. Pretty much a hail Mary by the entrenched deep state.
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Butch DeFeo

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05/16/2020 04:34 PM
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Re: Just How Inflated Are Coronavirus Death Counts, Exactly?
We have to assume all of it is bullshit, because this should have been taken seriously enough for hospitals to report it accurately but they didn't.

Hospitals get $13,000 for each covid-19 case declared, and $39,000 for each patient that is hooked up to a ventilator. These monetary incentives should never have occurred because it bastardizes the entire data collection process of this pandemic.

The economy was destroyed based on lies.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Average amount charged to an insurance company for a person out on a ventilator for 3 days for normal influenza is over $80,000. (pre covid prices) People who were never on the vent who were diagnosed with coronary were getting $30,000 hospital bills.

Do you have any any how completely ridiculous you sound by pretending that a Massive under payment is a gold mind???
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Do you realize how insane it is to charge $80 fucking thousand dollars for 3 days of the ventilator?

That IS a gold mine. That is how fucked our healthcare system has become. Ventilators cost around $15,000-$20,000. There is nothing magical about them or the staff required to run them. Just like the $50,000 that hospitals try to charge for Careflights. Something should be done to stop this kind of excessive billing. No wonder insurance is so expensive.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


YEP We know that hospitals and the medical industry overall are RABID for money. They reach out and grab as much money as they can possibly get.

That money incentive to declare COVID-19 should be illegal, and needs to be addressed so it doesn't happen again..

The statistics on COVID-19 are EXTREMELY important, and we cannot afford to have numbers off just because of greed.
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Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN.





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