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ISS through my telescope this morning!

 
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you can't argue with astro without being banned. He seems more impatient these days.
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I haven't been banning you, Canadian tard. Hell, I've been openly agreeing with you admitting that my video is fake. If you've been getting banned it's another mod doing it.
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Lol astro we both know that’s a lie. Are all doctorates with cushy jobs afraid to tell the truth. Every time I asked uni profs of the inconsistencies between what they teach and NASA’s claims they always seem to change the subject. I don’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to lose a good paying job and termed a quack by the mainstream gatekeepers. Too many doctorates and real doctors are suicided these days.
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Sorry bud, the physical size of the moon doesn't factor into it.
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Yeah well whatever Bull Shit numbers from Nasa that you use has got you fooled again!!!
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I think what Astro is saying is that the actual size of the Moon does not affect the measurements he is making of the ISS.
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I don't think you are understanding what I am telling him. Everything he thinks he knows about the moon is Bull Shit and the numbers are skewed. Distance, size, speed, and whatever else he uses to come up with numbers is all based on the lie in the first place!!!!!
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It doesn't matter how big the Moon is or how far away it is.

It doesn't effect the measurements he is making on the ISS, because there are two telescopes (him and his buddy Reds) a certain distance apart, and he is comparing those two measurements, so the Moon "drops out" of the equation.
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How crappy is that video!!! Did calculate that the Earth is spinning 26,000 miles per hour???

LooooLol LoOk at the station on the left, how much smaller it is!!! Pretty crappy job.
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"Miles per hour" is not a measurement of spin. The way to measure spin is in "revolutions per time" as in "the Earth is spinning at 1 revolution per 24 hours".
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How crappy is that video!!! Did calculate that the Earth is spinning 26,000 miles per hour???

LooooLol LoOk at the station on the left, how much smaller it is!!! Pretty crappy job.
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"Miles per hour" is not a measurement of spin. The way to measure spin is in "revolutions per time" as in "the Earth is spinning at 1 revolution per 24 hours".
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Thats what I meant, he didn't calculate the spin of the Earth, whatever they say that is. It is measured in mph it's actually said to be 1,036 mph at the equator. The moon travel close to a half a mile during the clip!!! and in what direction did it travel and what effect did that have on the angle for crying out loud??? So silly the video it is so.
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How crappy is that video!!! Did calculate that the Earth is spinning 26,000 miles per hour???

LooooLol LoOk at the station on the left, how much smaller it is!!! Pretty crappy job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26810388


"Miles per hour" is not a measurement of spin. The way to measure spin is in "revolutions per time" as in "the Earth is spinning at 1 revolution per 24 hours".
 Quoting: Neil WeakLegs 77577942


Thats what I meant, he didn't calculate the spin of the Earth, whatever they say that is. It is measured in mph it's actually said to be 1,036 mph at the equator. The moon travel close to a half a mile during the clip!!! and in what direction did it travel and what effect did that have on the angle for crying out loud??? So silly the video it is so.
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He didnt account for the spin of the Earth and in what direction it is spinning compared to the 'orbit' of the iss
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Despite your attempts to make an unfalsifiable theory which isn't scientific by the way, I have falsified the theory that it's a balloon.

It's too high and too fast to be a balloon.
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How stupid can you be??? They are lying about the size of the moon! This thing is lower and slower, sorry bud
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Sorry bud, the physical size of the moon doesn't factor into it.
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Yeah well whatever Bull Shit numbers from Nasa that you use has got you fooled again!!!
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I didn't use any numbers from NASA. Watch the video.
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you can't argue with astro without being banned. He seems more impatient these days.
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I haven't been banning you, Canadian tard. Hell, I've been openly agreeing with you admitting that my video is fake. If you've been getting banned it's another mod doing it.
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Lol astro we both know that’s a lie. Are all doctorates with cushy jobs afraid to tell the truth. Every time I asked uni profs of the inconsistencies between what they teach and NASA’s claims they always seem to change the subject. I don’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to lose a good paying job and termed a quack by the mainstream gatekeepers. Too many doctorates and real doctors are suicided these days.
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It's not a lie. I didn't ban you. Has nothing to do with my job. If you want to think my video is fake, I don't care.
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nice work!
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How crappy is that video!!! Did calculate that the Earth is spinning 26,000 miles per hour???

LooooLol LoOk at the station on the left, how much smaller it is!!! Pretty crappy job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26810388


"Miles per hour" is not a measurement of spin. The way to measure spin is in "revolutions per time" as in "the Earth is spinning at 1 revolution per 24 hours".
 Quoting: Neil WeakLegs 77577942


Thats what I meant, he didn't calculate the spin of the Earth, whatever they say that is. It is measured in mph it's actually said to be 1,036 mph at the equator. The moon travel close to a half a mile during the clip!!! and in what direction did it travel and what effect did that have on the angle for crying out loud??? So silly the video it is so.
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He didnt account for the spin of the Earth and in what direction it is spinning compared to the 'orbit' of the iss
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Doesn't matter as far as surface velocity goes. ISS orbits roughly West to east, so if you want velocity relative to Earth's center it will be slightly higher, not lower.
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Hey Astro , can you please tell me what you think is in this video ? Thread: Is this a UFO ?
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Astro , can you tell me Is it a drone, satellite or some weird Shiz ? Thanks
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"Miles per hour" is not a measurement of spin. The way to measure spin is in "revolutions per time" as in "the Earth is spinning at 1 revolution per 24 hours".
 Quoting: Neil WeakLegs 77577942


Thats what I meant, he didn't calculate the spin of the Earth, whatever they say that is. It is measured in mph it's actually said to be 1,036 mph at the equator. The moon travel close to a half a mile during the clip!!! and in what direction did it travel and what effect did that have on the angle for crying out loud??? So silly the video it is so.
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He didnt account for the spin of the Earth and in what direction it is spinning compared to the 'orbit' of the iss
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Doesn't matter as far as surface velocity goes. ISS orbits roughly West to east, so if you want velocity relative to Earth's center it will be slightly higher, not lower.
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Thats a retarded answer. Yeah lets just throw out that we are spinning lol in a totally different direction than the satellite lol and the moon was moving at the same time also!!! Your numbers are garbage! Doesn't prove one damn thing. Oh yeah lets forget what Nasa proofs are and listen to this little dipshit. Really?
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Like I said earlier that your focus was closer in than his thus your numbers are garbage
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Re: ISS through my telescope this morning!
Astro, a few weeks back i saw a bright orb in the still very light dusk sky, transiting over like maybe the ISS as it was brighter than the average satellite for sure, so i got the binoculars on it and about an inch to the right of it very very faint there was a pinprick of light following it as if a small spaceship was approaching the ISS but i dont think it was at a time of a resupply mission.. Anyway is this sort of thing normal and have you ever seen it before in the telescope?
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Thats what I meant, he didn't calculate the spin of the Earth, whatever they say that is. It is measured in mph it's actually said to be 1,036 mph at the equator. The moon travel close to a half a mile during the clip!!! and in what direction did it travel and what effect did that have on the angle for crying out loud??? So silly the video it is so.
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He didnt account for the spin of the Earth and in what direction it is spinning compared to the 'orbit' of the iss
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Doesn't matter as far as surface velocity goes. ISS orbits roughly West to east, so if you want velocity relative to Earth's center it will be slightly higher, not lower.
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Thats a retarded answer.
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No, it's not. Ground relative velocity is a thing. The moon's orbital motion is negligible over the fraction of a second it took ISS to cross.

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Like I said earlier that your focus was closer in than his thus your numbers are garbage
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Word salad. We were both focused appropriately.

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The moon travel close to a half a mile during the clip!!!
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0.3 miles actually. That's 0.01% of the total diameter. Negligible for these purposes.
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Like I said earlier that your focus was closer in than his thus your numbers are garbage
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Word salad. We were both focused appropriately.
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LoooLOL look how much bigger your picture of the iss is!! BS
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He didnt account for the spin of the Earth and in what direction it is spinning compared to the 'orbit' of the iss
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Doesn't matter as far as surface velocity goes. ISS orbits roughly West to east, so if you want velocity relative to Earth's center it will be slightly higher, not lower.
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Thats a retarded answer.
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No, it's not. Ground relative velocity is a thing. The moon's orbital motion is negligible over the fraction of a second it took ISS to cross.
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You say it's 'negligible' because you are using NASA numbers buddy, HA!
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Astro ?
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Doesn't matter as far as surface velocity goes. ISS orbits roughly West to east, so if you want velocity relative to Earth's center it will be slightly higher, not lower.
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Thats a retarded answer.
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No, it's not. Ground relative velocity is a thing. The moon's orbital motion is negligible over the fraction of a second it took ISS to cross.
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You say it's 'negligible' because you are using NASA numbers buddy, HA!
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Astronomers have known the size of the Moon way before NASA was created in the 1950s.
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Doesn't matter as far as surface velocity goes. ISS orbits roughly West to east, so if you want velocity relative to Earth's center it will be slightly higher, not lower.
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Thats a retarded answer.
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No, it's not. Ground relative velocity is a thing. The moon's orbital motion is negligible over the fraction of a second it took ISS to cross.
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You say it's 'negligible' because you are using NASA numbers buddy, HA!
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I don't need to use NASA's numbers you fucking retard. My telescope tracks the stars, I can see how slowly the moon moves and how negligible its motion is over half a second.
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Like I said earlier that your focus was closer in than his thus your numbers are garbage
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Word salad. We were both focused appropriately.
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LoooLOL look how much bigger your picture of the iss is!! BS
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Has nothing to do with the focus of the image you retard. Thanks for proving you don't understand basic photography. The difference in magnification was corrected for, the moon and ISS are the same size once I overlaid the images as seen in the video. The difference in the thickness, not the size, of the silhouette is simply due to differences in the brightness and contrast of my image vs the P1000. That had no impact on the measurements.
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Hey man - good effort on everything tbf lol - so what is your honest opinion on the Walsen stuff? Did he really capture all this crazy things??

For sure you know who i mean - the Brit guy that had all the crazy iss plus other things captures etc - was he for real or debunked??

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I know you've posted it like a zillion times and I've always meant to copy/paste/google the type of telescope you use - but didn't :/ - is your telescope a refracting or reflecting telescope?

I'm thinking reflecting since when I'm watching your videos and you are stacking images it's like the telescope is gathering light. I've always used refracting. Not as good as reflectors I hear.
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Like I said earlier that your focus was closer in than his thus your numbers are garbage
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Word salad. We were both focused appropriately.
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LoooLOL look how much bigger your picture of the iss is!! BS
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Has nothing to do with the focus of the image you retard. Thanks for proving you don't understand basic photography. The difference in magnification was corrected for, the moon and ISS are the same size once I overlaid the images as seen in the video. The difference in the thickness, not the size, of the silhouette is simply due to differences in the brightness and contrast of my image vs the P1000. That had no impact on the measurements.
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wrong moran one is clearly zoomed in more that the other thus it looks larger! How stupid can you be?
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Hey man - good effort on everything tbf lol - so what is your honest opinion on the Walsen stuff? Did he really capture all this crazy things??

For sure you know who i mean - the Brit guy that had all the crazy iss plus other things captures etc - was he for real or debunked??
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He's a hoaxer. When asked to produce proof that he could also capture known spacecraft in orbit like ISS, he stole a photo from fellow ISS tracker Paul Rix and tried to take credit. I have no tolerance for plagiarists and image thieves. I saw someone recreate his images using tinfoil, though the best examples were taken down due to copyright issues for the music used.
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Thats a retarded answer.
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No, it's not. Ground relative velocity is a thing. The moon's orbital motion is negligible over the fraction of a second it took ISS to cross.
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You say it's 'negligible' because you are using NASA numbers buddy, HA!
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I don't need to use NASA's numbers you fucking retard. My telescope tracks the stars, I can see how slowly the moon moves and how negligible its motion is over half a second.
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OOOh 'I tract the stars" oooooo So your scope is tracking stars. Who gives a shit? What does that have to do with moon? According to you it's light years between the two! How stupid would you have to be to believe this loolol
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Word salad. We were both focused appropriately.
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LoooLOL look how much bigger your picture of the iss is!! BS
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Has nothing to do with the focus of the image you retard. Thanks for proving you don't understand basic photography. The difference in magnification was corrected for, the moon and ISS are the same size once I overlaid the images as seen in the video. The difference in the thickness, not the size, of the silhouette is simply due to differences in the brightness and contrast of my image vs the P1000. That had no impact on the measurements.
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wrong moran one is clearly zoomed in more that the other thus it looks larger! How stupid can you be?
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No, it isn't. I resized the images based on the moon so that they were the exact same scale. ISS is not larger in one than the other. The difference in the thickness, not the size, of the silhouette is simply due to differences in the brightness and contrast of my image vs the P1000. That had no impact on the measurements.
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LoooLOL look how much bigger your picture of the iss is!! BS
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Has nothing to do with the focus of the image you retard. Thanks for proving you don't understand basic photography. The difference in magnification was corrected for, the moon and ISS are the same size once I overlaid the images as seen in the video. The difference in the thickness, not the size, of the silhouette is simply due to differences in the brightness and contrast of my image vs the P1000. That had no impact on the measurements.
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wrong moran one is clearly zoomed in more that the other thus it looks larger! How stupid can you be?
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No, it isn't. I resized the images based on the moon so that they were the exact same scale. ISS is not larger in one than the other. The difference in the thickness, not the size, of the silhouette is simply due to differences in the brightness and contrast of my image vs the P1000. That had no impact on the measurements.
 Quoting: Astromut

You have no idea how zoom can factor in and didn't even consider it, no way your numbers are close, just convenient.
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No, it's not. Ground relative velocity is a thing. The moon's orbital motion is negligible over the fraction of a second it took ISS to cross.
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You say it's 'negligible' because you are using NASA numbers buddy, HA!
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I don't need to use NASA's numbers you fucking retard. My telescope tracks the stars, I can see how slowly the moon moves and how negligible its motion is over half a second.
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OOOh 'I tract the stars" oooooo So your scope is tracking stars. Who gives a shit? What does that have to do with moon?
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Because according to you, the moon's orbital motion in half a second is significant enough to impact the results. If that's the case, the moon should significantly move in my telescope while it tracks at a sidereal rate in the half second span of time it takes ISS to cross the moon.

You are a dramatic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. You don't understand your own ignorance and you have the gall to insult me. This, my dear dumbass, is how much the moon moved in its orbit in half a second while my telescope tracked at a sidereal rate:
moonorbitmotion
Now, go on and try to convince people that the above motion is not negligible. Good luck.
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