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Now police are told they can use Taser guns on children

 
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Now police are told they can use Taser guns on children

JASON LEWIS
UK Daily Mail
Sunday Sept 2, 2007

Police have been given the go-ahead to use Taser stun guns against children.

The relaxing of restrictions on the use of the weapons comes despite warnings that they could trigger a heart attack in youngsters.

Until now, Tasers - which emit a 50,000-volt electric shock - have been used only by specialist officers as a "non lethal" alternative to firearms.

However, they can now be used against all potentially violent offenders even if they are unarmed.

It is the decision not to ban their use against minors that is likely to raise serious concerns.

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Home Office Police Minister Tony McNulty said medical assessments had confirmed the risk of death or serious injury from Tasers was "low".

But he failed to mention Government advisers had also warned of a potential risk to children.

The Defence Scientific Advisory Council medical committee told the Home Office that not enough was known about the health risks of using the weapons against children.

Tasers work by firing metal barbs into the skin which then discharge an electrical charge which is designed to disable someone long enough to allow police to detain them safely.

The committee, which is made up of independent scientists and doctors, said that limited research suggested there was a risk children could suffer "a serious cardiac event".

It recommended that officers should be "particularly vigilant" for any Taser-induced adverse response and said guidance should be amended to "identify children and adults of small stature" as being at potentially greater risk from the cardiac effects of Tasers.

The Government scientists were also asked to test whether the weapons could cause a miscarriage if used on a pregnant woman.

While not saying whether police would be allowed to Taser an expectant mother, the Home Office said the DSAC committee had "specifically asked" for computer simulations to be carried out to analyse the effect on "a pregnant female".

Amnesty International claims Tasers have been responsible for 220 deaths in America since 2001. Many cities and police forces there have banned their use against minors.

Two years ago in Chicago a 14-year-old boy went into cardiac arrest after being shot with one. Medics had to use a defibrillator four times to resuscitate him.

Taser International, the American firm that makes the device, said tests on pigs suggested the weapons were safe.

The Association of Chief Police Officers, which issues guidance to forces on the use of weapons, said Tasers would be made "readily available" for "conflict management" at incidents of "violence and threats of violence of such severity that they will need force".

Non-firearms officers in ten forces will be trained to use the weapons. Every incident they are involved in will be assessed over a 12-month trial period.
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: I don't understand your reply ?
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If my child is hit with a taser I will be dead or in jail

for murder plain and simple.
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well...

if you think that's bad
wait till they 'fry' a guy with a pacemaker
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: I don't understand your reply ?
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Thanks for the post. I guess this is something every parent

should know.
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The day a cop uses a taser on my child is the day that cop dies, period.
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The day a cop uses a taser on my child is the day that cop dies, period.
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yes, i would get my child to my family, make sure she is safe, and then open the gates of hell
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Praise The Holy of Holy :: Have to start knitting your own sweaters with kevlar panels !
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kevlar :)
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I doubt cops would use a taser on children that don't pose a serious threat.

If they did, I am sure every parent in the community will be up in arms.

But I do remember an incident a few years ago in Austin Texas, where a cop shot and killed a 13 year old boy.

The boy was large for his age, armed, and posing a serious threat to his family and the police.

If they would have had tasers available, he might still be alive.
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Any cop that uses a taser on a child should have his tongue tasered for an hour.
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kevlar :)
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Thanks , I wonder if you can buy that !
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kevlar :)

Thanks , I wonder if you can buy that !
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You can but to obtain it legally you must have a licence. Armed security or police.
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kevlar :)

Thanks , I wonder if you can buy that !


You can but to obtain it legally you must have a licence. Armed security or police.
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nah, anybody can get it, google is your friend, you can buy it in rigid panels or loose cloth, or in pre made body armor, police routinely sell all of their vests every few years, for about a dime on the dollar, great for retrofitting a car
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"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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I doubt cops would use a taser on children that don't pose a serious threat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300361

YOu are extremely naive. They already have. We have seen reports of tasering 13-year-old girls, elderly women in wheelchairs, people who ask embarrassing questions, etc.

Ironically, the worst problem is not the single use of a taser, but rather the murderous police attitude that "anyone worth shooting once is worth shooting twice." The elderly woman in a wheelchair who died was tasered nine times for a total period of 160 seconds.

Remember, police officers are potential murderers.
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interesting:

A Columbus, OH, police department officer safety memo, obtained by Gun Week, is raising alarms in law enforcement circles that criminals may be teaching one another how to defeat being shot by Tasers.

The memorandum was written after a July 15 incident in which a female Columbus officer confronted a stabbing suspect. After the suspect ignored repeated verbal commands, the officer shot the suspect with the Taser twice, and both probes made skin contact about 16 inches apart.

However, according to the memo, the suspect dropped to the ground and rolled. In the process, he broke both Taser wires, and thus broke the contact with the weapon, which stopped the electric charge. He then jumped up and ran away with the two probes still in his chest, according to the memo.


stop
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and roll :)
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto





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