NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78821531 United States 05/22/2020 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69933813 United States 05/22/2020 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78821531 There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake. If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78943014 Canada 05/22/2020 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78821531 There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake. If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans. It was given to fatties with one foot in the grave? Then why was Donald Trump supposedly taking it? |
Grove Street User ID: 78870678 United States 05/22/2020 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment then dont take it OP i'll take it if i want to. my body my choice right? Last Edited by Grove Street on 05/22/2020 03:39 PM Grove And this is why we can't have nice things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76143424 Australia 05/22/2020 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78821531 There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake. If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans. No, that excuse won't work. If you had bothered to read the study, which you obviously didn't, the authors controlled for underlying conditions: "After controlling for multiple confounding factors (age, sex, race or ethnicity, body-mass index, underlying cardiovascular disease and its risk factors, diabetes, underlying lung disease, smoking, immunosuppressed condition, and baseline disease severity)..." [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77920564 United States 05/22/2020 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77773358 United States 05/22/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564 Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria. Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because: 1. They can't patent it. 2. It works. 3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76143424 Australia 05/22/2020 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564 Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria. Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because: 1. They can't patent it. 2. It works. 3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines. Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy. This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24499233 United States 05/22/2020 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum. Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope. Pharma Shill Fail. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76143424 Australia 05/22/2020 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564 Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria. This study was funded by the William Harvey Distinguished Chair in Advanced Cardiovascular Medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital. [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] "Hdrox is perfectly safe." That is clearly not the finding in this study incorporating 96,000 patients, with the recommended COVID-19 dosage. Where do you get your data? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76143424 Australia 05/22/2020 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum. Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope. Pharma Shill Fail. The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped. Read this again: Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77773358 United States 05/22/2020 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564 Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria. Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because: 1. They can't patent it. 2. It works. 3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines. Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy. This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents. A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564 Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria. Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because: 1. They can't patent it. 2. It works. 3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines. Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy. This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents. It's called conflict of interest. None of these entities could possibly stand to benefit from billions of dollars of patents and liability indemnification! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14385938 United States 05/22/2020 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment They gave people in ICU, with sepsis, in shock and with major organ failure massive doses of hydroxychloriquine for four days and then nothing for four days. Very many of these people were already on ventilators. I considered it murder. It really shock me up. There's only one way to take hydroxychloriquine. That is with zinc, and before the major organ damage. Even I have known this since the beginning. Perhaps because the first way I heard it described was it's like Tamiflu. That has to be taken at the early stages or it won't help. Duh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24499233 United States 05/22/2020 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum. Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope. Pharma Shill Fail. The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped. Read this again: Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. Excuse me, but you forgot that this is a study about the EFFECTIVENESS in treating the RONA, not TOXICITY. 50 YEARS of this drug on the market, and it is use daily by those with lupis, and in countries with malaria. The toxicity of this relates to HEART CONDITIONS and is ill advisable to use if you have a HEART CONDITION. |
Butch DeFeo User ID: 78907989 United States 05/22/2020 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment If zinc is not given to the patient along with the HCQ and proper antibiotics, then the study is RIGGED to fail. RIGGED is the word of the day, here. :DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS: Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78128618 United States 05/22/2020 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment I know this is going to be too complex for the ideological-induced stupid to understand, but HCQ plus Zinc works if taken early (slows down viral replication), before severity is so great it requires hospitalization. It won't magically cure severe infections requiring hospitalization, as will nothing else much. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76577984 France 05/22/2020 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918 Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum. Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope. Pharma Shill Fail. The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped. Read this again: Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. Excuse me, but you forgot that this is a study about the EFFECTIVENESS in treating the RONA, not TOXICITY. 50 YEARS of this drug on the market, and it is use daily by those with lupis, and in countries with malaria. The toxicity of this relates to HEART CONDITIONS and is ill advisable to use if you have a HEART CONDITION. No, the study stated: The main outcomes of interest were in-hospital mortality and the occurrence of de-novo ventricular arrhythmias (non-sustained or sustained ventricular tachycardia or ventricular fibrillation). It included a complete spectrum of patients and controlled for underlying conditions: After controlling for multiple confounding factors (age, sex, race or ethnicity, body-mass index, underlying cardiovascular disease and its risk factors, diabetes, underlying lung disease, smoking, immunosuppressed condition, and baseline disease severity), when compared with mortality in the control group (9·3%), hydroxychloroquine (18·0%; hazard ratio 1·335, 95% CI 1·223–1·457), hydroxychloroquine with a macrolide (23·8%; 1·447, 1·368–1·531), chloroquine (16·4%; 1·365, 1·218–1·531), and chloroquine with a macrolide (22·2%; 1·368, 1·273–1·469) were each independently associated with an increased risk of in-hospital mortality. Whether or not zinc is included has no effect on mortality resulting from hydroxychloroquine due to the occurrence of de-novo ventricular arrhythmias (non-sustained or sustained ventricular tachycardia or ventricular fibrillation). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29910105 United States 05/22/2020 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918 Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum. Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope. Pharma Shill Fail. The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped. Read this again: Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. Excuse me, but you forgot that this is a study about the EFFECTIVENESS in treating the RONA, not TOXICITY. 50 YEARS of this drug on the market, and it is use daily by those with lupis, and in countries with malaria. The toxicity of this relates to HEART CONDITIONS and is ill advisable to use if you have a HEART CONDITION. Excuse me, but you forgot that hydroxychloroquine has always been a dangerous drug. Those taking it for lupus or rheumatoid arthritis take a small dosage, and only then after a physician has considered their cardiac risk. But the much higher dosage level used for treating COVID-19 presents a serious risk of heart attack or failure, fibrillation, blindness, and a long list of other side effects. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29910105 United States 05/22/2020 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment If you can get a physician to prescribe it for you, which is becoming less and less likely as these large studies come out. No physician will prescribe it for preventing COVID-19 rather than as treatment—a use that was never approved. FDA has already stated that HCQ should *not* be used outside in-patient hospital treatment. Any doctor writing a prescription for hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic treatment for COVID-19, or for treatment of COVID-19 outside a closely supervised hospital trial, should not only have their license revoked—they should face charges. And if they do prescribe it anyway and the patient dies, they will no doubt be sued for malpractice - successfully. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78925069 United States 05/22/2020 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum. Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope. Pharma Shill Fail. The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped. Read this again: Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. According to who? STFU Pharma Shill. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76577984 France 05/22/2020 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918 Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum. Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope. Pharma Shill Fail. The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped. Read this again: Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine. According to who? STFU Pharma Shill. Nobody has ever claimed that zinc decreases the lethality or side effects of hydroxychloroquine. |