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NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment

 
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Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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And here they are in droves.

BUT ZINC!
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Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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I know. Now ask these people how zinc magically makes prolonged high dosage HCQ less destructive to the body. See if you get an answer lol.
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BUT ZINC!

That's about all we have so far.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
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A new bucket of shit slop hits the trough for the Orange Man Bad! tards and they rush in to lap it up!

Common core never taught them how to spell "selective"

"A medicine that works sucks, but we'll take a vaccine that will completely fuck us up because we're smurt!!"
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
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Do you have the statistics for bleach?
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
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Do you have the statistics for bleach?
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5a
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564


Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
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This.

Seems obvious to me
Roll Tide!

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WWW1WWA!

Epstein didn't kill himself.

they "knew" Koresh was going to burn the compound down. So they pumped it full of flammable CS gas for 6 hours then launched incendiary devices.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943285


If it's actually this bad for patients that have been given the all clear by their doctor to take it, why does the FDA say it's just fine then?

HMMMMMMM?

The study is flawed in how it judged the effectivness of HCQ in that it did not include zinc along with it.

Face it, you simply think over and over again in your head, orange man bad, HCQ bad, death and economic dispire good....
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943285


If it's actually this bad for patients that have been given the all clear by their doctor to take it, why does the FDA say it's just fine then?

HMMMMMMM?

The study is flawed in how it judged the effectivness of HCQ in that it did not include zinc along with it.

Face it, you simply think over and over again in your head, orange man bad, HCQ bad, death and economic dispire good....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


The FDA says it's just fine? You can recycle your "orange man bad" slogan or follow the medical advice of your guru all you want, but this is what FDA states:

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin and other QT prolonging medicines. We are also aware of increased use of these medicines through outpatient prescriptions. Therefore, we would like to remind health care professionals and patients of the known risks associated with both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19. They are being studied in clinical trials for COVID-19, and we have only authorized their temporary use during the COVID-19 pandemic for treatment of the virus in hospitalized patients when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia. These risks may increase when these medicines are combined with other medicines known to prolong the QT interval, including the antibiotic azithromycin, which is also being used in some COVID-19 patients without FDA approval for this condition. Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

This new study of 96,000 patients confirms FDA's caution.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943285


If it's actually this bad for patients that have been given the all clear by their doctor to take it, why does the FDA say it's just fine then?

HMMMMMMM?

The study is flawed in how it judged the effectivness of HCQ in that it did not include zinc along with it.

Face it, you simply think over and over again in your head, orange man bad, HCQ bad, death and economic dispire good....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


The FDA says it's just fine? You can recycle your "orange man bad" slogan or follow the medical advice of your guru all you want, but this is what FDA states:

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin and other QT prolonging medicines. We are also aware of increased use of these medicines through outpatient prescriptions. Therefore, we would like to remind health care professionals and patients of the known risks associated with both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19. They are being studied in clinical trials for COVID-19, and we have only authorized their temporary use during the COVID-19 pandemic for treatment of the virus in hospitalized patients when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia. These risks may increase when these medicines are combined with other medicines known to prolong the QT interval, including the antibiotic azithromycin, which is also being used in some COVID-19 patients without FDA approval for this condition. Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

This new study of 96,000 patients confirms FDA's caution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943485


Putting aside the aforementioned (and manifold) concerns about the methodology of the study and the (rather obvious) conflicts of interest of parties mentioned -- the recommendations of "public agencies" like CDC & FDA are for government surveillance. They produce guidelines -- not standards of care. Standards of care are established through patient choice in concert with clinical experts that are licensed and ideally board-certified. Moreover, there can be multiple standards of care -- whether they are backed by hundreds of studies or not.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564


Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358


Retard.

The cabal/elite/illuminate/deep state are losing trillions of dollars due to the worldwide lockdowns. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.

Trump recently gave his rich friends = cabal/elite/illuminate/deep state trillions of dollars to stop their businesses going bankrupt. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.


Lots of countries have lost tens of thousands of their people to the virus. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943285


If it's actually this bad for patients that have been given the all clear by their doctor to take it, why does the FDA say it's just fine then?

HMMMMMMM?

The study is flawed in how it judged the effectivness of HCQ in that it did not include zinc along with it.

Face it, you simply think over and over again in your head, orange man bad, HCQ bad, death and economic dispire good....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


The FDA says it's just fine? You can recycle your "orange man bad" slogan or follow the medical advice of your guru all you want, but this is what FDA states:

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin and other QT prolonging medicines. We are also aware of increased use of these medicines through outpatient prescriptions. Therefore, we would like to remind health care professionals and patients of the known risks associated with both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19. They are being studied in clinical trials for COVID-19, and we have only authorized their temporary use during the COVID-19 pandemic for treatment of the virus in hospitalized patients when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia. These risks may increase when these medicines are combined with other medicines known to prolong the QT interval, including the antibiotic azithromycin, which is also being used in some COVID-19 patients without FDA approval for this condition. Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

This new study of 96,000 patients confirms FDA's caution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78943485


Putting aside the aforementioned (and manifold) concerns about the methodology of the study and the (rather obvious) conflicts of interest of parties mentioned -- the recommendations of "public agencies" like CDC & FDA are for government surveillance. They produce guidelines -- not standards of care. Standards of care are established through patient choice in concert with clinical experts that are licensed and ideally board-certified. Moreover, there can be multiple standards of care -- whether they are backed by hundreds of studies or not.
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What aforementioned concerns about the methodology of the study and the conflicts of interest of parties mentioned?
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
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You are claiming the whole worldwide medical profession is stopping something that works.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564


Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358


Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy.

This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents.
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hesright
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564


Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358


Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy.

This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents.
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hesright
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But zinc.
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OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits.

There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake.
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If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
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He's right...just to make sure you get it, I'll repeat.

If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.


M'kay???


chuckle
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits.

There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake.
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If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
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He's right...just to make sure you get it, I'll repeat.

If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.


M'kay???


chuckle
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No, that excuse won't work. If you had bothered to read the study, which you obviously didn't, the study included a broad range of patients in various condition and the authors controlled for underlying conditions:

"After controlling for multiple confounding factors (age, sex, race or ethnicity, body-mass index, underlying cardiovascular disease and its risk factors, diabetes, underlying lung disease, smoking, immunosuppressed condition, and baseline disease severity)..."

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New research published in The Lancet on Friday found that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine has ‘no benefit’ for coronavirus patients, and could even increase the risk of heart arrhythmias and mortality.

“This is the first large scale study to find statistically robust evidence that treatment with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine does not benefit patients with COVID-19,” said lead author of the study and Executive Director of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital Center in Boston Mandeep R. Mehra. “Instead, our findings suggest it may be associated with an increased risk of serious heart problems and increased risk of death.”

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or either drug in combination with azithromycin was also associated with higher odds of death, even after accounting for age, race, body mass index, and preexisting conditions.

The Lancet article is the largest study to date on the hyped drugs, analyzing data from nearly 15,000 COVID-19 patients who received hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or a combination of either drug with a macrolide antibiotic such as azithromycin, and 81,000 COVID-19 patients who did not receive any of those treatments. The data came from 671 hospitals across 6 continents.

The Lancet results support previous findings from a widely disseminated Brazilian study that found an increased risk of heart arrhythmias in COVID-19 patients receiving high doses of the drug. The study was discontinued shortly after, as subjecting patients to increased risk of death in the trial was deemed unethical by study coordinators.

China, Spain, Brazil, and the United States have also issued recommendations for use of hydroxychloroquine in limited populations, largely restricting them to use in clinical trial settings in light of the new reports of serious cardiac side effects.

But the authors of The Lancet study still warn that the overall likelihood that these drugs improve clinical outcomes in COVID-19 patients is quite low, and underline that the medicines should not be recommended by countries for widespread treatment of COVID-19.

“Several countries have advocated use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, either alone or in combination, as potential treatments for COVID-19. Justification for repurposing these medicines in this way is based on a small number of anecdotal experiences that suggest they may have beneficial effects for people infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus,” said Director of the Heart Center at University Hospital Zurich Frank Ruschitzka, who also co-authored The Lancet study.

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Interestingly, these findings are similar to the study at the VA that Trump said was "false, phony, done by obvious Trump enemies", and the "only negative study".
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They are working overtime to push those patented drugs and vaccines. It's almost like everyone is being paid to whore out their opinion.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358


Retard.

The cabal/elite/illuminate/deep state are losing trillions of dollars due to the worldwide lockdowns. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.

Trump recently gave his rich friends = cabal/elite/illuminate/deep state trillions of dollars to stop their businesses going bankrupt. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.


Lots of countries have lost tens of thousands of their people to the virus. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.
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Actually highest IQ on the board by a country mile -- the cabal plan was clearly to enslave humanity in medical tyranny with microchip surveillance and yearly vaccines, while simultaneously centralizing control and depopulating the planet. There is a shadow war for the planet; Trump & Bill Gates (vaccinate the world) are presumably on opposite factions (possibly many).
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
New research published in The Lancet on Friday found that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine has ‘no benefit’ for coronavirus patients, and could even increase the risk of heart arrhythmias and mortality.

“This is the first large scale study to find statistically robust evidence that treatment with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine does not benefit patients with COVID-19,” said lead author of the study and Executive Director of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital Center in Boston Mandeep R. Mehra. “Instead, our findings suggest it may be associated with an increased risk of serious heart problems and increased risk of death.”

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or either drug in combination with azithromycin was also associated with higher odds of death, even after accounting for age, race, body mass index, and preexisting conditions.

The Lancet article is the largest study to date on the hyped drugs, analyzing data from nearly 15,000 COVID-19 patients who received hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or a combination of either drug with a macrolide antibiotic such as azithromycin, and 81,000 COVID-19 patients who did not receive any of those treatments. The data came from 671 hospitals across 6 continents.

The Lancet results support previous findings from a widely disseminated Brazilian study that found an increased risk of heart arrhythmias in COVID-19 patients receiving high doses of the drug. The study was discontinued shortly after, as subjecting patients to increased risk of death in the trial was deemed unethical by study coordinators.

China, Spain, Brazil, and the United States have also issued recommendations for use of hydroxychloroquine in limited populations, largely restricting them to use in clinical trial settings in light of the new reports of serious cardiac side effects.

But the authors of The Lancet study still warn that the overall likelihood that these drugs improve clinical outcomes in COVID-19 patients is quite low, and underline that the medicines should not be recommended by countries for widespread treatment of COVID-19.

“Several countries have advocated use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, either alone or in combination, as potential treatments for COVID-19. Justification for repurposing these medicines in this way is based on a small number of anecdotal experiences that suggest they may have beneficial effects for people infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus,” said Director of the Heart Center at University Hospital Zurich Frank Ruschitzka, who also co-authored The Lancet study.

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Don’t take it when you time comes and ask to use official ventilator treatment.
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A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
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Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
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The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped.

Read this again:

Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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Hi. But Zinc needs to be given to the patient, along with HCQ and the proper antibiotics, in order to work.

Increased Zinc in our cells is what we WANT, when taking Hhydrooxychloroquine (HCQ), along with the proper antibiotics.

Look up videos of doctors talking about it so you can learn.

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And, we can tell you're trying to derail the thread with confusion, but your $3.50 will now not be paid to you. Oh well.....
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Editors of the Lancet and NEJM said half of their articles are fraudulent. I think that this is a BS piece because they overplayed their hand by overestimating the deaths and creating the shutdown.
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It’s the antibiotics!

Sudden heart death may be a new risk from the commonly prescribed antibiotic azithromycin -- better known as Zithromax or the Z-Pak.

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New research published in The Lancet on Friday found that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine has ‘no benefit’ for coronavirus patients, and could even increase the risk of heart arrhythmias and mortality.

“This is the first large scale study to find statistically robust evidence that treatment with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine does not benefit patients with COVID-19,” said lead author of the study and Executive Director of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital Center in Boston Mandeep R. Mehra. “Instead, our findings suggest it may be associated with an increased risk of serious heart problems and increased risk of death.”

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or either drug in combination with azithromycin was also associated with higher odds of death, even after accounting for age, race, body mass index, and preexisting conditions.

The Lancet article is the largest study to date on the hyped drugs, analyzing data from nearly 15,000 COVID-19 patients who received hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or a combination of either drug with a macrolide antibiotic such as azithromycin, and 81,000 COVID-19 patients who did not receive any of those treatments. The data came from 671 hospitals across 6 continents.

The Lancet results support previous findings from a widely disseminated Brazilian study that found an increased risk of heart arrhythmias in COVID-19 patients receiving high doses of the drug. The study was discontinued shortly after, as subjecting patients to increased risk of death in the trial was deemed unethical by study coordinators.

China, Spain, Brazil, and the United States have also issued recommendations for use of hydroxychloroquine in limited populations, largely restricting them to use in clinical trial settings in light of the new reports of serious cardiac side effects.

But the authors of The Lancet study still warn that the overall likelihood that these drugs improve clinical outcomes in COVID-19 patients is quite low, and underline that the medicines should not be recommended by countries for widespread treatment of COVID-19.

“Several countries have advocated use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, either alone or in combination, as potential treatments for COVID-19. Justification for repurposing these medicines in this way is based on a small number of anecdotal experiences that suggest they may have beneficial effects for people infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus,” said Director of the Heart Center at University Hospital Zurich Frank Ruschitzka, who also co-authored The Lancet study.

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B U L L S H I T
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To summarise the results:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

Who wants those odds?
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If it's actually this bad for patients that have been given the all clear by their doctor to take it, why does the FDA say it's just fine then?

HMMMMMMM?

The study is flawed in how it judged the effectivness of HCQ in that it did not include zinc along with it.

Face it, you simply think over and over again in your head, orange man bad, HCQ bad, death and economic dispire good....
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The FDA says it's just fine? You can recycle your "orange man bad" slogan or follow the medical advice of your guru all you want, but this is what FDA states:

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin and other QT prolonging medicines. We are also aware of increased use of these medicines through outpatient prescriptions. Therefore, we would like to remind health care professionals and patients of the known risks associated with both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19. They are being studied in clinical trials for COVID-19, and we have only authorized their temporary use during the COVID-19 pandemic for treatment of the virus in hospitalized patients when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia. These risks may increase when these medicines are combined with other medicines known to prolong the QT interval, including the antibiotic azithromycin, which is also being used in some COVID-19 patients without FDA approval for this condition. Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines.

[link to www.fda.gov (secure)]

This new study of 96,000 patients confirms FDA's caution.
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You fucking idiot, the FDA recommended against using azitheromycin with it because of the drug interation, NOT HCQ.

Your disinformation is going to get people hurt you fuckn pharma shill.
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Hey idiots! You're still missing the most obvious point! Hydroxy treatment doesn't work when you're already in the hospital in late stage covid. It works only in the early stage and to prevent. That is why Trump and all his cohorts are taking in now. Sure this huge study shows it doesn't work because IT WAS A HOSPITAL STUDY! THE PATIENTS WERE ALREADY DEATHLY SICK! DAMN WHY CAN'T YOU EFFING RETARDS SEE THIS. Why do you think we haven't lost anyone really famous? It's because they know and can get the treatment early. Damn you fuckers are stupid.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
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Retard.

The cabal/elite/illuminate/deep state are losing trillions of dollars due to the worldwide lockdowns. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.

Trump recently gave his rich friends = cabal/elite/illuminate/deep state trillions of dollars to stop their businesses going bankrupt. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.


Lots of countries have lost tens of thousands of their people to the virus. If Hydroxychloroquine worked they WOULD be using it.
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Its them behind the economic colapse bro, they need to exterminate this old order to bring the new one with a new financial sYstem named...THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
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Hey idiots! You're still missing the most obvious point! Hydroxy treatment doesn't work when you're already in the hospital in late stage covid. It works only in the early stage and to prevent. That is why Trump and all his cohorts are taking in now. Sure this huge study shows it doesn't work because IT WAS A HOSPITAL STUDY! THE PATIENTS WERE ALREADY DEATHLY SICK! DAMN WHY CAN'T YOU EFFING RETARDS SEE THIS. Why do you think we haven't lost anyone really famous? It's because they know and can get the treatment early. Damn you fuckers are stupid.
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