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NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment

 
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NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
New research published in The Lancet on Friday found that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine has ‘no benefit’ for coronavirus patients, and could even increase the risk of heart arrhythmias and mortality.

“This is the first large scale study to find statistically robust evidence that treatment with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine does not benefit patients with COVID-19,” said lead author of the study and Executive Director of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital Center in Boston Mandeep R. Mehra. “Instead, our findings suggest it may be associated with an increased risk of serious heart problems and increased risk of death.”

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or either drug in combination with azithromycin was also associated with higher odds of death, even after accounting for age, race, body mass index, and preexisting conditions.

The Lancet article is the largest study to date on the hyped drugs, analyzing data from nearly 15,000 COVID-19 patients who received hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine, or a combination of either drug with a macrolide antibiotic such as azithromycin, and 81,000 COVID-19 patients who did not receive any of those treatments. The data came from 671 hospitals across 6 continents.

The Lancet results support previous findings from a widely disseminated Brazilian study that found an increased risk of heart arrhythmias in COVID-19 patients receiving high doses of the drug. The study was discontinued shortly after, as subjecting patients to increased risk of death in the trial was deemed unethical by study coordinators.

China, Spain, Brazil, and the United States have also issued recommendations for use of hydroxychloroquine in limited populations, largely restricting them to use in clinical trial settings in light of the new reports of serious cardiac side effects.

But the authors of The Lancet study still warn that the overall likelihood that these drugs improve clinical outcomes in COVID-19 patients is quite low, and underline that the medicines should not be recommended by countries for widespread treatment of COVID-19.

“Several countries have advocated use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, either alone or in combination, as potential treatments for COVID-19. Justification for repurposing these medicines in this way is based on a small number of anecdotal experiences that suggest they may have beneficial effects for people infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus,” said Director of the Heart Center at University Hospital Zurich Frank Ruschitzka, who also co-authored The Lancet study.

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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
But Trump says it works ,your a demorat
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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I know. Now ask these people how zinc magically makes prolonged high dosage HCQ less destructive to the body. See if you get an answer lol.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits.

There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits.

There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake.
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If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits.

There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake.
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If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
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It was given to fatties with one foot in the grave? Then why was Donald Trump supposedly taking it?
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
then dont take it OP


i'll take it if i want to.

my body my choice


right?

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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
OK, so looking at 96,000 patients across six continents, the results were the same: Patients given hydroxychloroquine had a significantly greater risk of dying than those who were not treated with Trump’s favorite drug, and there were no beneits.

There is absolutely no doubt that Trump’s continued support for this medication is generating more unnecessary deaths in the middle of a pandemic with unnecessary deaths. He has taken the shit sandwich of his miserable COVID-19 response and given it a big dollop of extra shit. And Trump isn’t acting out of ignorance—he has any number of experts telling him the truth about this drug. He would simply rather have people die than admit a mistake.
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If you actually read the study, it was given to fatties with one foot in the grave. We are waiting on the study as a prophylaxis you morans.
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No, that excuse won't work. If you had bothered to read the study, which you obviously didn't, the authors controlled for underlying conditions:

"After controlling for multiple confounding factors (age, sex, race or ethnicity, body-mass index, underlying cardiovascular disease and its risk factors, diabetes, underlying lung disease, smoking, immunosuppressed condition, and baseline disease severity)..."

[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
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Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy.

This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents.
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Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
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I like the study over in the U K better. 10,000 British nurses are gonna follow the President Trump Protocol. banana2banana2
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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This study was funded by the William Harvey Distinguished Chair in Advanced Cardiovascular Medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital.

[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]

"Hdrox is perfectly safe."

That is clearly not the finding in this study incorporating 96,000 patients, with the recommended COVID-19 dosage. Where do you get your data?
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
The Lancet turned to trash in the late 80's and forget it after the 90's
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78935338


Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918


OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
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The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped.

Read this again:

Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
then dont take it OP


i'll take it if i want to.

my body my choice


right?
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It's about politics not informed choice.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
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Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358


Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy.

This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76143424


A study paid for by some entity that stands to greatly benefit financially from some new expensive drug that they want to use to treat this crap.

Hdrox is perfectly safe. People around the world have been taking it like M&Ms since the Vietnam war. Some country in either southeast asia or south america (I can't remember where) has the lowest incident per capita of any country in the world because the majority of their population take it to prevent melaria.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920564


Amen. Big Pharma & the cabal hate Hydroxychloroquine because:
1. They can't patent it.
2. It works.
3. (Most important) It diminishes demand for vaccines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77773358


Good luck with your massive secret "Big Pharma Cabal" conspiracy theory in trying to debunk this studdy.

This was a study of 96,000 patients from 671 hospitals in six continents.
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It's called conflict of interest. None of these entities could possibly stand to benefit from billions of dollars of patents and liability indemnification!
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
I read the Brazilian study. I was horrified.

They gave people in ICU, with sepsis, in shock and with major organ failure massive doses of hydroxychloriquine for four days and then nothing for four days. Very many of these people were already on ventilators.

I considered it murder. It really shock me up.

There's only one way to take hydroxychloriquine. That is with zinc, and before the major organ damage.

Even I have known this since the beginning. Perhaps because the first way I heard it described was it's like Tamiflu. That has to be taken at the early stages or it won't help.


Duh.
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Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
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The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped.

Read this again:

Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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Excuse me, but you forgot that this is a study about the EFFECTIVENESS in treating the RONA, not TOXICITY.

50 YEARS of this drug on the market, and it is use daily by those with lupis, and in countries with malaria.

The toxicity of this relates to HEART CONDITIONS and is ill advisable to use if you have a HEART CONDITION.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
If zinc is not given to the patient along with the HCQ and proper antibiotics, then the study is RIGGED to fail.

RIGGED is the word of the day, here.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
I know this is going to be too complex for the ideological-induced stupid to understand, but HCQ plus Zinc works if taken early (slows down viral replication), before severity is so great it requires hospitalization.

It won't magically cure severe infections requiring hospitalization, as will nothing else much.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918


OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped.

Read this again:

Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76143424


Excuse me, but you forgot that this is a study about the EFFECTIVENESS in treating the RONA, not TOXICITY.

50 YEARS of this drug on the market, and it is use daily by those with lupis, and in countries with malaria.

The toxicity of this relates to HEART CONDITIONS and is ill advisable to use if you have a HEART CONDITION.
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No, the study stated:

The main outcomes of interest were in-hospital mortality and the occurrence of de-novo ventricular arrhythmias (non-sustained or sustained ventricular tachycardia or ventricular fibrillation).

It included a complete spectrum of patients and controlled for underlying conditions:

After controlling for multiple confounding factors (age, sex, race or ethnicity, body-mass index, underlying cardiovascular disease and its risk factors, diabetes, underlying lung disease, smoking, immunosuppressed condition, and baseline disease severity), when compared with mortality in the control group (9·3%), hydroxychloroquine (18·0%; hazard ratio 1·335, 95% CI 1·223–1·457), hydroxychloroquine with a macrolide (23·8%; 1·447, 1·368–1·531), chloroquine (16·4%; 1·365, 1·218–1·531), and chloroquine with a macrolide (22·2%; 1·368, 1·273–1·469) were each independently associated with an increased risk of in-hospital mortality.


Whether or not zinc is included has no effect on mortality resulting from hydroxychloroquine due to the occurrence of de-novo ventricular arrhythmias (non-sustained or sustained ventricular tachycardia or ventricular fibrillation).
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
Trump lied people died.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918


OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped.

Read this again:

Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76143424


Excuse me, but you forgot that this is a study about the EFFECTIVENESS in treating the RONA, not TOXICITY.

50 YEARS of this drug on the market, and it is use daily by those with lupis, and in countries with malaria.

The toxicity of this relates to HEART CONDITIONS and is ill advisable to use if you have a HEART CONDITION.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


Excuse me, but you forgot that hydroxychloroquine has always been a dangerous drug. Those taking it for lupus or rheumatoid arthritis take a small dosage, and only then after a physician has considered their cardiac risk. But the much higher dosage level used for treating COVID-19 presents a serious risk of heart attack or failure, fibrillation, blindness, and a long list of other side effects.
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then dont take it OP


i'll take it if i want to.

my body my choice


right?
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If you can get a physician to prescribe it for you, which is becoming less and less likely as these large studies come out. No physician will prescribe it for preventing COVID-19 rather than as treatment—a use that was never approved.

FDA has already stated that HCQ should *not* be used outside in-patient hospital treatment. Any doctor writing a prescription for hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic treatment for COVID-19, or for treatment of COVID-19 outside a closely supervised hospital trial, should not only have their license revoked—they should face charges.

And if they do prescribe it anyway and the patient dies, they will no doubt be sued for malpractice - successfully.
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Inb4 the zinctards come out of the woodwork.
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918


OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped.

Read this again:

Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
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According to who?
STFU Pharma Shill.
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Re: NEW: Massive study of 96,000 COVID-19 patients showed no benefit and increased mortality from hydroxychloroquine treatment
I couldn't get hydroxycholoquine...


I got ivermectin and doxycycline and keflex...vit d...n.a.c...and herb cocktails.

Good luck with your preps
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Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78942918


OMG, you are the dumbest piece of shit on this forum.

Zinc is what stops virus replication, HCQ is what allows it into the cells. Both are required. Was Zinc included in the study? Nope.

Pharma Shill Fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


The dumbest shit in the forum would be the one with poor reading comprehension who is possibly intellectually handicapped.

Read this again:

Zinc has nothing to do with the toxicity and increased mortality resulting from treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76143424

According to who?
STFU Pharma Shill.
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Nobody has ever claimed that zinc decreases the lethality or side effects of hydroxychloroquine.





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