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97,640 Americans dead so far, is Coronavirus is it still a hoax?

 
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Thanks to Governor Cuomo, 1/3 of the deaths occurred in Nursing home patients being exposed to CoVid-19...
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30% of deaths in Michigan are from nursing homes also.
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During a garden variety flu season 40,000 to 60,000 Americans die every year of the flu. This year the figure is 97,000 because people already dying of other conditions are included in the flu deaths statistics. Why? To put pressure on the president. The economy plunges and unemployment soars. If the Democrats do win the election the flu will drop from the news after January, when they are sworn in. Maybe even the day after they win, this November. If they win.
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Scientific American: Flu Deaths Are ‘Substantially’ Overestimated to ‘Encourage Vaccination’

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I have heart disease, COPD, and Cancer. I do nothing different, I'm still fine.....so I'd say yes
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Your number is a hoax.

Certified number is: Daily Updates of Totals by Week and State
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
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Dr. Brix stated a while ago that this number may be 25% optimistic, meaning the true mortality rate is much less.
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Your number is a hoax.

Certified number is: Daily Updates of Totals by Week and State
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

Dr. Brix stated a while ago that this number may be 25% optimistic, meaning the true mortality rate is much less.
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Yes, as of yesturday: 73,639
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Flu deaths per year
Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths. About 20% of unvaccinated children and 10% of unvaccinated adults are infected each year. Jan 10 2020
Influenza - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
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But that's worldwide! And how many Americans have already died from the flu this year?
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last I heard flu deaths were down 70% this year.
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Yes for the same reason covid deaths are down.

Social distancing.
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2.8 million die in the U.S.A every year.

No lock downs, no panic.

Everyone dies from something.
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What happened to the 2.2 MILLION deaths that were going to occur if nothing was done?

We saved 95% of the people marked for death.

Is that not a success?
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Wrong.

Back in early March, the "experts" warned that as much as 10% (30 million people) in the USA may die of Covid if nothing is done. They went on to say if we take all necessary precautions, by social distancing and enforcing lockdowns, they would be 2.2 million deaths, saving many lives and flattening the curve.

Dr. Fauci and Dr. Brix have continuously revised that number downward to 1 million, then 500,000, then 200,000, to now 80,000 to perhaps 100,000 deaths.

No, the draconian measures meant little to nothing as the 30+ ships with all who were aboard exposed, having a 20% infection rate and a 0.20% combined mortality rate in what many call a human petri dish indicated that this so called "bioweapon" was a joke, have very similar stats to common flu.

Dr. Fauci corroborates this.
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It's a fake number because hospitals get paid to list "Covid" as cause of death -- even if patient is in his 90's and has other conditions

true death toll is only about 20,000
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Flu deaths per year
Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths. About 20% of unvaccinated children and 10% of unvaccinated adults are infected each year. Jan 10 2020
Influenza - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
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But that's worldwide! And how many Americans have already died from the flu this year?
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last I heard flu deaths were down 70% this year.
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Yes for the same reason covid deaths are down.

Social distancing.
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Wrong.

Social distancing helped little to none knowing the statistics and virology of the 30+ closed ship cases all within close proximity. 100% exposure, verified via testing with 20% infection, and 0.20% combined mortality. Seasonal flu stats.

Also, according to the WHO, the virus is airborne for 30 minutes, is 1 micron in size (N95 masks only filter to 3 micron) and can live on surfaces for up to 10-14 days. So, social distancing in public spaces or wearing a mask is pointless, as shown with the 30+ ships with Covid cases outlined above.
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Well, what do you think? Is the entire medical establishment and the whole government lying...or is it real after all?
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Dead slaves or not who cares?
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What happened to the 2.2 MILLION deaths that were going to occur if nothing was done?

We saved 95% of the people marked for death.

Is that not a success?
 Quoting: AxX


Wrong.

Back in early March, the "experts" warned that as much as 10% (30 million people) in the USA may die of Covid if nothing is done. They went on to say if we take all necessary precautions, by social distancing and enforcing lockdowns, *they* would be 2.2 million deaths, saving many lives and flattening the curve.

Dr. Fauci and Dr. Brix have continuously revised that number downward to 1 million, then 500,000, then 200,000, to now 80,000 to perhaps 100,000 deaths.

No, the draconian measures meant little to nothing as the 30+ ships with all who were aboard exposed, having a 20% infection rate and a 0.20% combined mortality rate in what many call a human petri dish indicated that this so called "bioweapon" was a joke, have very similar stats to common flu.

Dr. Fauci corroborates this.
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*there would be
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Thanks to Governor Cuomo, 1/3 of the deaths occurred in Nursing home patients being exposed to CoVid-19...
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The news chi fake like a cartoon
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Flu deaths per year
Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths. About 20% of unvaccinated children and 10% of unvaccinated adults are infected each year. Jan 10 2020
Influenza - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
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So, 80% are vaccinated children and 90% are vaccinated adults. You see a problem here?
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YAWN . . .


2015-2016
The overall burden of influenza for the 2015-2016 season was an estimated 24 million influenza illnesses, 11 million influenza-associated medical visits, 280,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 23,000 flu-associated deaths (Table: Estimated Influenza Disease Burden, by Season — United States, 2010-11 through ... [link to www.nope?q=us+influenza+detah+toll+2016&oq=us+influenza+detah​+toll+2016&aqs=chrome..69i57.8543j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-​8 (secure)]


The CDC estimates that between 46,000 and 95,000 Americans died due to influenza during the 2017-18 flu season. [link to www.nope?ei=cJTJXvDvDZPn-gS9gpKwDw&q=us+influenza+detah+toll+​2017&oq=us+influenza+detah+toll+2017&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIGC​AAQFhAeOgQIABBHOgUIABDNAlDUmwFYy54BYPSnAWgAcAF4AIABtQGIAcgCkg​EDMC4ymAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjw5_Xp​9crpAhWTs54KHT2BBPYQ4dUDCAw&uact=5 (secure)]

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 48.8 million illnesses, more than 22.7 million medical visits, 959,000 hospitalizations, and 79,400 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. [link to www.nope?ei=hpTJXv-mJsav-gTDtJL4BA&q=us+influenza+detah+toll+​2018&oq=us+influenza+detah+toll+2018&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIEC​AAQDTIGCAAQFhAeOgQIABBHUJRMWItQYKRSaABwAXgAgAG6AYgB7AKSAQMwLj​KYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwj_gc309crpAh​XGl54KHUOaBE8Q4dUDCAw&uact=5 (secure)]

This coronavirus outbreak is nothing more than a nasty flu-type season. SAME NUMBER OF DEATHS.
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YAWN . . .


2015-2016
The overall burden of influenza for the 2015-2016 season was an estimated 24 million influenza illnesses, 11 million influenza-associated medical visits, 280,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 23,000 flu-associated deaths (Table: Estimated Influenza Disease Burden, by Season — United States, 2010-11 through ... [link to www.nope?q=us+influenza+detah+toll+2016&oq=us+influenza+detah​+toll+2016&aqs=chrome..69i57.8543j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-​8 (secure)]


The CDC estimates that between 46,000 and 95,000 Americans died due to influenza during the 2017-18 flu season. [link to www.nope?ei=cJTJXvDvDZPn-gS9gpKwDw&q=us+influenza+detah+toll+​2017&oq=us+influenza+detah+toll+2017&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIGC​AAQFhAeOgQIABBHOgUIABDNAlDUmwFYy54BYPSnAWgAcAF4AIABtQGIAcgCkg​EDMC4ymAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjw5_Xp​9crpAhWTs54KHT2BBPYQ4dUDCAw&uact=5 (secure)]

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 48.8 million illnesses, more than 22.7 million medical visits, 959,000 hospitalizations, and 79,400 deaths during the 2017–2018 influenza season. [link to www.nope?ei=hpTJXv-mJsav-gTDtJL4BA&q=us+influenza+detah+toll+​2018&oq=us+influenza+detah+toll+2018&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIEC​AAQDTIGCAAQFhAeOgQIABBHUJRMWItQYKRSaABwAXgAgAG6AYgB7AKSAQMwLj​KYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwj_gc309crpAh​XGl54KHUOaBE8Q4dUDCAw&uact=5 (secure)]

This coronavirus outbreak is nothing more than a nasty flu-type season. SAME NUMBER OF DEATHS.
 Quoting: Watchman2020


And conspicuously, influenza cases since Feb. 1st, when Covid19 hit the streets within the USA, have fallen off the map with only 6300 cases. Right!

Nothing novel about COVERT19 flu besides the narrative.

See certified CDC numbers here:
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Well, what do you think? Is the entire medical establishment and the whole government lying...or is it real after all?
 Quoting: Ehm 78259951


It's pretty much just like a bad flu season so far.

And that's even with tons of false/inflated statistics.

So, once again, Covid-19 is real, but the reaction is highly fraudulent.
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Is it real, or is it a COVERT flu?

See my posts above. Lots of evidence indicating it's not what they say it is and possibly just relabeled Influenza.
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The virus is real. The response and fatality rates are questionable. We’ll see November 4th if anyone still cares.
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2020 is a great year!!!

No Flu Deaths!

No Pneumonia Deaths!

No Natural Causes Deaths!

Plus lower overall deaths for the year!!!
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The virus is real. The response and fatality rates are questionable. We’ll see November 4th if anyone still cares.
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Yeah, I know "it's" real, as there is always a virus in circulation. No biggy.

But, is it what "they" say it is or is it just a flu, as Trump and other have said?

Lots of info says it's just the flu and the so called "novelty" is a hoax as well as the severity. All info they knew ahead of time but chose to create a media frenzy out of it with highly dubious numbers and claims that don't hold water to get their agenda shoved down the throats of gullible first worlders.

This is a worldwide hoax by the international cabal. See Event 201 and Rockefeller Foundation's "Lock-Step" scenario from as far back as 2010.
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... even dr. scarf was commenting that there was 25% too many cases ...
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Yes, CDC numbers are up to 25% optimistic. She asked them to revise downward. They haven't do that yet. The current certified number in the USA is below at 73,639. Subtract 25%:

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0.028 percent of U.S. population.
That's one out of every 3,584 Americans the majority of whom were on deaths door stored away in nursing homes.

Death sucks but so does starving through a paranoia-created economic depression.
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YES, IT IS A HOAX and GO FUCK YOURSELF IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE.

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... even dr. scarf was commenting that there was 25% too many cases ...
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Yes, CDC numbers are up to 25% optimistic. She asked them to revise downward. They haven't do that yet. The current certified number in the USA is below at 73,639. Subtract 25%:

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
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Here's the article and the quote:

Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated.

“There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust,” Birx said, according to two of the people.

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Well, what do you think? Is the entire medical establishment and the whole government lying...or is it real after all?
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Considering there are 330 million people in this country- the death toll is low.
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FAKE ASS NUMBERS

you cough , gasp for air or shit your diapers right before dying all hospitals right now are claiming corona related death
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Flu deaths per year
Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths. About 20% of unvaccinated children and 10% of unvaccinated adults are infected each year. Jan 10 2020
Influenza - Wikipedia

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