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20% Of Human Test Subjects Injured From Moderna Coronavirus Vaccine

 
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Alan dershowitz says you have no right not to take a mandatory vaccine

They will drag you to the doctors office, hold you down, and plunge the needle in your arm

Be prepared.
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what’s super scary about this is that this doesn’t seem to be stopping their plans:

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“But the company, which is developing the vaccine in collaboration with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which Fauci leads, has yet to publish detailed results from the trial, fueling concerns among researchers about how much the announcement can be trusted.

Addressing those concerns, Fauci said his team at the infectious disease institute is compiling full details from the trial but said, "Having looked at the data myself, it is really quite promising."

"The vaccine induced what we call neutralizing antibodies, as opposed to just binding antibodies, and neutralizing antibodies are antibodies that actually can block the virus," Fauci said. The results were "even better than we thought," he said, "and they did it at a moderate dose of the vaccine."”

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“But was there good reason for so much enthusiasm? Several vaccine experts asked by STAT concluded that, based on the information made available by the Cambridge, Mass.-based company, there’s really no way to know how impressive — or not — the vaccine may be.

While Moderna blitzed the media, it revealed very little information — and most of what it did disclose were words, not data. That’s important: If you ask scientists to read a journal article, they will scour data tables, not corporate statements. With science, numbers speak much louder than words.

Even the figures the company did release don’t mean much on their own, because critical information — effectively the key to interpreting them — was withheld.”
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They are hell bent on covering this one up and making it seem optimistic. They don't want a big deal made about it because if the press were to big it up (as if!) it would instantly put half the population off getting a vaccine once its available.
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Why would a reputable and highly regarded company like Moderna obscure crucial safety data?

Because, Moderna is NOT highly reputable or highly regarded!

Spearheaded by one of the most corrupt and dishonest doctors, Moncef Slaoui, who has a rap-sheet at GSK bigger than any other pharma company. He ran it like the MAFIA!
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Kennedy: “CNN did a really interesting article that appeared this morning about Moderna. …In the last couple of paragraphs they interviewed two of the former officials, people that worked at Moderna till 2018 and one of them was, I think, the CEO of the company.

“He said, I was shocked when I read that the federal government had given that company $438 million. I was shocked.

“The other guy, and he said, I don’t know what they were thinking of. That’s what he said. This is a guy who worked at the company.

The other guy was their chief chemist, the head of all their chemistry department, …He said, there is nothing what could make me put that vaccine in my body.
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So, don't be sad

No, don't be sad

'cause 1 out of 5 ain't bad...
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But there ain't no way I'm ever gonna not give you horrible debilitating side effects.
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Why would a reputable and highly regarded company like Moderna obscure crucial safety data?

Because, Moderna is NOT highly reputable or highly regarded!

Spearheaded by one of the most corrupt and dishonest doctors, Moncef Slaoui, who has a rap-sheet at GSK bigger than any other pharma company. He ran it like the MAFIA!
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Kennedy: “CNN did a really interesting article that appeared this morning about Moderna. …In the last couple of paragraphs they interviewed two of the former officials, people that worked at Moderna till 2018 and one of them was, I think, the CEO of the company.

“He said, I was shocked when I read that the federal government had given that company $438 million. I was shocked.

“The other guy, and he said, I don’t know what they were thinking of. That’s what he said. This is a guy who worked at the company.

The other guy was their chief chemist, the head of all their chemistry department, …He said, there is nothing what could make me put that vaccine in my body.
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Even a former chemist of Moderna said he would not take the vaccine! lol
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People that allow themselves to be test subjects are complete idiots.
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Gates/Fauci vaccine not only is worthless (8 of 15 made antibodies) but it made 3 of 15 people gravely ill. If given to every person on Earth, it could potentially kill 1.5 billion people. That is probably not enough to make Gates happy, it does seem to be moving in the direction he wants.

Fauci was so sure this vaccine was going to save us all that he waved most of the testing required to prove the safety of the vaccine. The results of the little bit of testing done are not available. Apparently the test animals that got the vaccine developed antibodies, then were infected with the Chinese virus and died. Fauci should be in prison.

This is the vaccine that they want to require for anyone going out into public. It is neither safe nor effective.
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People that allow themselves to be test subjects are complete idiots.
 Quoting: Nataanii


I feel sorry for them to be honest.

Their DNA is fucked.
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Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies ( Moderna suspiciously reported no health data from its mouse studies). That appears to have been a mistake.

Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.
RevContent InArticle SOLO

Moderna did not release its clinical trial study or raw data,but its press release,which was freighted with inconsistencies acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as “Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention. “

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 Quoting: AggregateThreat


On average it takes 15 years to create a vaccine. A lot of those 15 years are due to safety trials. They are bypassing years of safety trials to create a virus. Anyone willing to test a vaccine is stupid.

Also, this current coronavirus is not the first coronavirus we have come across, it hs the worst though. We have tried many times to create a vaccine against coronaviruses and always failed.
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Did Trump make a chess move when he chose Moderna and Moncef Slaoui to spearhead the development of the vaccine?

Moderna have been criticised many times...

In February 2016, an op-ed in Nature, criticized Moderna for not publishing any peer-reviewed papers on its technology, unlike most other emerging and established biotech companies, and compared its approach to that of the controversially failed Theranos.[12] In September 2018, Thrillist published article titled, "Why This Secretive Tech Start-Up Could Be The Next Theranos",[23] criticizing its reputation for secrecy and the absence of scientific validation or independent peer-review of its research, though having the highest valuation of any U.S. private biotech company at more than $5 billion.[6][7] A former Moderna scientist told Stat: "It's a case of the emperor's new clothes. They're running an investment firm, and then hopefully it also develops a drug that's successful".

Moncef Slaoui was involved in massive doctor bribery and corruption.
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People that allow themselves to be test subjects are complete idiots.
 Quoting: Nataanii


I feel sorry for them to be honest.

Their DNA is fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068423


Like y'all, I have to wonder at who in their right mind would even offer themselves up for being guinea pigs.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

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Did Trump make a chess move when he chose Moderna and Moncef Slaoui to spearhead the development of the vaccine?

Moderna have been criticised many times...

In February 2016, an op-ed in Nature, criticized Moderna for not publishing any peer-reviewed papers on its technology, unlike most other emerging and established biotech companies, and compared its approach to that of the controversially failed Theranos.[12] In September 2018, Thrillist published article titled, "Why This Secretive Tech Start-Up Could Be The Next Theranos",[23] criticizing its reputation for secrecy and the absence of scientific validation or independent peer-review of its research, though having the highest valuation of any U.S. private biotech company at more than $5 billion.[6][7] A former Moderna scientist told Stat: "It's a case of the emperor's new clothes. They're running an investment firm, and then hopefully it also develops a drug that's successful".

Moncef Slaoui was involved in massive doctor bribery and corruption.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78945333


Imagine a near bankrupt/un-scientific company lead by a utterly corrupt CEO possibly producing a safe/effective vaccine for billions of people!

It just won't happen! It's just laughable!
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People that allow themselves to be test subjects are complete idiots.
 Quoting: Nataanii


I feel sorry for them to be honest.

Their DNA is fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068423


Like y'all, I have to wonder at who in their right mind would even offer themselves up for being guinea pigs.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


On a heavy agenda driven vaccine rushed out and bill gates saying society won't go back to normal or re-open without it. Especially a disease that shows it doesn't really kill very many who are healthy.
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Sounds nasty, I would rather take my chances let my body fight any infection. VACCINE should be last resort
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78945333


Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.
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they all were injured

vaccination in and of itself is a grave bodily harm


the results quite often not apparent immediately
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sya hello to smallpox, tuberculosis and rubella for me. kthxbye learn some learnings pls.
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Just for the record, smallpox is variola. The vaccine is made from vaccinia, a different pox that is similar enough to convey immunity.

Vaccines are different, made different, grown on different mediums, with different adjuvants. Even some big anti vaxxers will get a tetanus one. You cant lump all of them and the risks into one single category.

This COVID one? You have to be kidding me. Pay the price to refuse it...and there will be a price to say no.
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Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies ( Moderna suspiciously reported no health data from its mouse studies). That appears to have been a mistake.

Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.
RevContent InArticle SOLO

Moderna did not release its clinical trial study or raw data,but its press release,which was freighted with inconsistencies acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as “Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention. “

[link to www.fort-russ.com (secure)]

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That's a fail for them. They like much higher numbers.
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Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.
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Thread: The Coronavirus Vaccine Side-Effects: Worst Case Scenario: Full Body Inflammation and Death
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Kennedy: “There’s now eighty separate vaccine projects. Bill Gates has eight of them. Bill Gates is now the biggest vaccine producer in the world, bigger than any other company.

One of Gates’ vaccines is the Moderna vaccine, which is the first one out of the gate. The Moderna vaccine is a really dangerous human experiment. It’s shockingly reckless. And to particularly go forward without any kind of animal test at all, they went right to phase one human trials. …

“Tony Fauci has arranged for that company, Moderna, which has never produced a vaccine, …which was on the verge of bankruptcy, 1.5 billion dollars in debt, ….

“And Gates, who has been funding it, and Fauci rescued the company from bankruptcy by giving them the first of these projects. The project is an RNA vaccine, which has never been made before.
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Better make them mandatory... right Mr. Gates?
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This is not Mr. Gates vaccine.. knock it off.
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People that allow themselves to be test subjects are complete idiots.
 Quoting: Nataanii


I feel sorry for them to be honest.

Their DNA is fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068423


Like y'all, I have to wonder at who in their right mind would even offer themselves up for being guinea pigs.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


On a heavy agenda driven vaccine rushed out and bill gates saying society won't go back to normal or re-open without it. Especially a disease that shows it doesn't really kill very many who are healthy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068423


First, all there is a long list of items a test subject must agree with before starting any trial. Thank God we have people willing to be test subjects for medications.

But the real news here, and I believe what has motivated Fauci to all of a sudden stop fighting the President, he has learned that AstraZeneca is far ahead in the development of a vaccine. AstraZeneca has stated they are moving into phase 3, with none of the issues of the Gate's backed vaccine. The have further stated they could have 100 Million doses of vaccine available by October and 300 Million available by end of year. Looks like AstraZeneca will beat them to the market place.
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Dr. Siddiqi Former Director of Chemistry for Moderna

...For starters, in the rush to get started, the FDA allowed Moderna's RNA vaccine -- called mRNA-1273 -- to essentially gloss over the animal-testing that typically precede clinical trials in humans. Given the nature of this emergency, they are happening in parallel.

Siddiqi said this is cause for alarm.

"I would not let that [vaccine] to be injected in my body," he said. "I would demand: Where is the toxicity data from the lab?"

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38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
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"Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna's chief medical officer, acknowledged that the company doesn't have a product on the market, but said the government's decision was wise."

Why would it be wise to give a contact to a near-bankrupt company that have never created a vaccine before and have a history of scientific obfuscation?

wtf
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"Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna's chief medical officer, acknowledged that the company doesn't have a product on the market, but said the government's decision was wise."

Why would it be wise to give a contact to a near-bankrupt company that have never created a vaccine before and have a history of scientific obfuscation?

wtf
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In there first, major press-release, they his crucial information from the public.

This is a company that supposedly is producing a vaccine to save the planet lol
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Are these same people claiming anti vaxxers are nothing but dumb conspiracy theorists? I wonder how they feel now?
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They feel no different. In fact, they're probably excited for the vaccine.

Why? Because these people IGNORE facts. Then they have the balls to turn around and present their BS as fact and call you an idiot.

I hope the people who were hurt make a full recovery.
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"Dr. Tal Zaks, Moderna's chief medical officer, acknowledged that the company doesn't have a product on the market, but said the government's decision was wise."

Why would it be wise to give a contact to a near-bankrupt company that have never created a vaccine before and have a history of scientific obfuscation?

wtf
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In there first, major press-release, they his crucial information from the public.

This is a company that supposedly is producing a vaccine to save the planet lol
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typo

In there first, major press-release, they hid crucial information from the public.
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The same people pushing this vaccine are on here telling you Hydroxychloroquine is terrible dangerous stuff.

And you expect me to believe there isn't an agenda being pushed here?

I'm sick of this bullshit.
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Early Data from Gilead’s Compassionate Use of Remdesivir for COVID-19 Looks Promising

That being said, about 25% of patients receiving it have severe side effects, including multiple-organ dysfunction syndrome, septic shock, acute kidney injury and low blood pressure. Another 23% demonstrated evidence of liver damage on lab tests.

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lovely... Why are they pushing that one so hard.

Fucking idiots.
 Quoting: Tangy


because 'warp speed' it has been said by the alknowing so it will happen hell or high water - or just some deaths.

But because trump promised - and he hasn't made a promise he can't break yet
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78939653


Has he touted remdesivir? That seems to be the Dem solution to NOT use hydroxychloroquine and zinc that he has touted.

Hydroxychloroquine bubbled up through the MAGA grassroots — little-known investors promoted it online, got on Fox News and suddenly the president was talking about it from the White House. Remdesivir’s progress came through a government-funded trial that had the blessing of Dr. Anthony Fauci

back on topic though....

Though most of us want nothing to do with a vaccine, many hundreds of millions DO want it..
 Quoting: Tangy


Just to add, Remdesivir results are now showing it did not do any good and actually hurt people per a new study.

"Meanwhile, and explaining the 6pm release on a Friday, the study also found no marked benefit from remdesivir for those who were healthier and didn’t need oxygen or those who were sicker, requiring a ventilator or a heart-lung bypass machine."

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