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20% Of Human Test Subjects Injured From Moderna Coronavirus Vaccine

 
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Guess that explains why their top executives sold 30 million in stock
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Still far from the 45% increase of mortality if you took hydroxicloroquine like the orange man said.
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That's complete and total bullshit. I knew one of you dumb fucks would be here trying to take attention off of this dangerous vaccine and push it back on Hydroxychloroquine.

Get over it. You're a fucking idiot. We're not talking about Hydroxychloroquine.
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Example of a shill from this thread

Thread: The Coronavirus Vaccine Side-Effects: Worst Case Scenario: Full Body Inflammation and Death (Page 2)

"What OP is unwilling to tell you is.
1. People who didn't get the vaccine, are getting this.
2. There is no vaccine yet, it's still in testing phase, and there are only a few reports out of that yet.

Op is clearly an anti-vax'er. Take this post with a grain of salt. Clearly vaccines have worked, take for instance polio.

But yes, by all means, either listen to reason, or OP.
Scientist study virus's to learn about them. If you consider, studying something a "bad" thing to do. Then by all means, move back into the stone age. Uggg.

FFS"

If question the vaccine, you're an anti-vaxxer! If you point out side-effects, you're anti-vaxxer! lol
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Example of a shill from this thread

Thread: The Coronavirus Vaccine Side-Effects: Worst Case Scenario: Full Body Inflammation and Death (Page 2)

"What OP is unwilling to tell you is.
1. People who didn't get the vaccine, are getting this.
2. There is no vaccine yet, it's still in testing phase, and there are only a few reports out of that yet.

Op is clearly an anti-vax'er. Take this post with a grain of salt. Clearly vaccines have worked, take for instance polio.

But yes, by all means, either listen to reason, or OP.
Scientist study virus's to learn about them. If you consider, studying something a "bad" thing to do. Then by all means, move back into the stone age. Uggg.

FFS"

If question the vaccine, you're an anti-vaxxer! If you point out side-effects, you're anti-vaxxer! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78945333


I was confused and going to call you an idiot.

You're exactly right though. You're not allowed to question the safety of the vaccine.

At the same time they're on here telling us how dangerous Hydroxychloroquine is.

It's fucking disgusting.
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It's like 5G....

Too important to test.

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Don't pay attention to this you alarmist idiots.

Oh yeah and Hydroxychloroquine is very bad. Very dangerous! Avoid it at all costs.
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Don't pay attention to this you alarmist idiots.

Oh yeah and Hydroxychloroquine is very bad. Very dangerous! Avoid it at all costs.
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is that why all nurses and doctors in the uk are taking it as a prophylaxis? because its very dangerous?
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Moncef Slaoui is a former exec of GSK. Now, take a look at GSK.

Fined $490m for bribery.
Off-label or unapproved promotion. Fined $3 billion.
False claims. Fined over $380 million.
Kickbacks and bribery. Fined $125 million.
Price-fixing or anti-competitive practices. Fined $27 million

and so on and so on!

33 violations and fined over $4 billion.

[link to violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org (secure)]
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Moncef Slaoui is a former exec of GSK. Now, take a look at GSK.

Fined $490m for bribery.
Off-label or unapproved promotion. Fined $3 billion.
False claims. Fined over $380 million.
Kickbacks and bribery. Fined $125 million.
Price-fixing or anti-competitive practices. Fined $27 million

and so on and so on!

33 violations and fined over $4 billion.

[link to violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


So, you have a former exec of the most corrupt Big Pharma company ever, spearheading vaccine development with Moderna, that have never produced a vaccine before, were on the verge of bankruptcy, and have an histoty scientific dishonesty.

wtf
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Moncef Slaoui is a former exec of GSK. Now, take a look at GSK.

Fined $490m for bribery.
Off-label or unapproved promotion. Fined $3 billion.
False claims. Fined over $380 million.
Kickbacks and bribery. Fined $125 million.
Price-fixing or anti-competitive practices. Fined $27 million

and so on and so on!

33 violations and fined over $4 billion.

[link to violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


So, you have a former exec of the most corrupt Big Pharma company ever, spearheading vaccine development with Moderna, that have never produced a vaccine before, were on the verge of bankruptcy, and have an histoty scientific dishonesty.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


But, have faith they will produce a safe and effective vaccine!

This is lunacy!
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Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies ( Moderna suspiciously reported no health data from its mouse studies). That appears to have been a mistake.

Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.
RevContent InArticle SOLO

Moderna did not release its clinical trial study or raw data,but its press release,which was freighted with inconsistencies acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as “Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention. “

[link to www.fort-russ.com (secure)]

AT
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I do not trust vaccines.
I especially do not trust
fast tracked experimental vaccines.

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Moncef Slaoui is a former exec of GSK. Now, take a look at GSK.

Fined $490m for bribery.
Off-label or unapproved promotion. Fined $3 billion.
False claims. Fined over $380 million.
Kickbacks and bribery. Fined $125 million.
Price-fixing or anti-competitive practices. Fined $27 million

and so on and so on!

33 violations and fined over $4 billion.

[link to violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


So, you have a former exec of the most corrupt Big Pharma company ever, spearheading vaccine development with Moderna, that have never produced a vaccine before, were on the verge of bankruptcy, and have an histoty scientific dishonesty.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


But, have faith they will produce a safe and effective vaccine!

This is lunacy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


Malaria vaccine was 30 years in development.

But, Moncef Slaoui, with Moderna, will knock-up a safe/effective vaccine this year

LMAO!
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Example of a shill from this thread

Thread: The Coronavirus Vaccine Side-Effects: Worst Case Scenario: Full Body Inflammation and Death (Page 2)

"What OP is unwilling to tell you is.
1. People who didn't get the vaccine, are getting this.
2. There is no vaccine yet, it's still in testing phase, and there are only a few reports out of that yet.

Op is clearly an anti-vax'er. Take this post with a grain of salt. Clearly vaccines have worked, take for instance polio.

But yes, by all means, either listen to reason, or OP.
Scientist study virus's to learn about them. If you consider, studying something a "bad" thing to do. Then by all means, move back into the stone age. Uggg.

FFS"

If question the vaccine, you're an anti-vaxxer! If you point out side-effects, you're anti-vaxxer! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78945333


What a sniveling shill.....
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Don't pay attention to this you alarmist idiots.

Oh yeah and Hydroxychloroquine is very bad. Very dangerous! Avoid it at all costs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74139312


STFU shill.
Seagull Lake
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And this 4 days ago... raising stocks significantly... Even though they KNEW of the horrific issues it has caused many of the participants.



Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine shows encouraging early results

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The company’s stock, along with the Dow Jones industrial average, soared on the report that eight participants who received low and medium doses of Moderna’s vaccine had blood levels of virus-fighting antibodies that were similar or greater than those in recovered covid-19 patients. That suggests, but doesn’t prove, that it triggers some level of immunity.
 Quoting: Tangy


From WP:

The vaccine showed few safety signals, aside from redness at the injection site for one patient and some transient “systemic” symptoms in three patients given the highest dose — which the company will not be using in future trials.

The interim data comes from a clinical trial aimed at showing the safety of its experimental vaccine and helping the company select the correct dose. The company has not yet picked the final dose, or announced the size or length of the large trial that it will start in July, which will be the key one that regulators consider to decide whether the vaccine is safe and effective.

This month, the company received permission from the Food and Drug Administration to begin a 600-person, Phase 2 trial to begin to test the effectiveness of the vaccine.



Wow. Only 4 negative reactions. Hopefully the truth is spread far and wide so Moderna can't find 600 volunteers for the next trial.

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> Don't be a GMO!
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SAN FRANCISCO — Moderna Therapeutics, the most highly valued private company in biotech, has run into troubling safety problems with its most ambitious therapy, STAT has learned — and is now banking on a mysterious new technology to keep afloat its brash promise of reinventing modern medicine.

But the Crigler-Najjar treatment has been indefinitely delayed, an Alexion spokeswoman told STAT. It never proved safe enough to test in humans, according to several former Moderna employees and collaborators who worked closely on the project.

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The same people pushing this vaccine are on here telling you Hydroxychloroquine is terrible dangerous stuff.

And you expect me to believe there isn't an agenda being pushed here?

I'm sick of this bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74139312


Anyone with a brain could see this coming the second HCQ was talked about. There is absolutely no money in that drug. Just as there is no money in finding a cure for cancer.
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SAN FRANCISCO — Moderna Therapeutics, the most highly valued private company in biotech, has run into troubling safety problems with its most ambitious therapy, STAT has learned — and is now banking on a mysterious new technology to keep afloat its brash promise of reinventing modern medicine.

But the Crigler-Najjar treatment has been indefinitely delayed, an Alexion spokeswoman told STAT. It never proved safe enough to test in humans, according to several former Moderna employees and collaborators who worked closely on the project.

[link to www.statnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


"But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects."

Clearly, there are huge risks with this so-called technology. So, why aren't they testing it on animals first.

This is unethical!
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Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies ( Moderna suspiciously reported no health data from its mouse studies). That appears to have been a mistake.

Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.
RevContent InArticle SOLO

Moderna did not release its clinical trial study or raw data,but its press release,which was freighted with inconsistencies acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as “Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention. “

[link to www.fort-russ.com (secure)]

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They are trying to say hcq which has been used for decades safely, is unsafe and needs clinical trials and approval, while at the same time pushing brand new vaccines and waiving trials and years of study. The blatant contradiction and hypocrisy is insane
zzcat
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but all shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well." - Julian of norwich
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Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies ( Moderna suspiciously reported no health data from its mouse studies). That appears to have been a mistake.

Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.
RevContent InArticle SOLO

Moderna did not release its clinical trial study or raw data,but its press release,which was freighted with inconsistencies acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as “Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention. “

[link to www.fort-russ.com (secure)]

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Dr. Fauci should be hung.

Along with Soros and Bill Gates.
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For fucks sake. It was a red spot at the injection site. Big whoop.

More hyped up anti-vaccine bs
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SAN FRANCISCO — Moderna Therapeutics, the most highly valued private company in biotech, has run into troubling safety problems with its most ambitious therapy, STAT has learned — and is now banking on a mysterious new technology to keep afloat its brash promise of reinventing modern medicine.

But the Crigler-Najjar treatment has been indefinitely delayed, an Alexion spokeswoman told STAT. It never proved safe enough to test in humans, according to several former Moderna employees and collaborators who worked closely on the project.

[link to www.statnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


"But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects."

Clearly, there are huge risks with this so-called technology. So, why aren't they testing it on animals first.

This is unethical!
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They did test it on monkeys first.
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btw this is classed as gene therapy and is not protected like traditional vaccines from law suits.
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The United States has a law that protects all vaccine manufacturers from law suits. You have to take your case to the government's VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting SYSTEM) and let the taxpayers pay your damages. Because that's how insane we've gotten here regarding protecting those bastards.
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SAN FRANCISCO — Moderna Therapeutics, the most highly valued private company in biotech, has run into troubling safety problems with its most ambitious therapy, STAT has learned — and is now banking on a mysterious new technology to keep afloat its brash promise of reinventing modern medicine.

But the Crigler-Najjar treatment has been indefinitely delayed, an Alexion spokeswoman told STAT. It never proved safe enough to test in humans, according to several former Moderna employees and collaborators who worked closely on the project.

[link to www.statnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


"But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects."

Clearly, there are huge risks with this so-called technology. So, why aren't they testing it on animals first.

This is unethical!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76747916


They did test it on monkeys first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78295133


No, they didn't!

As they race to test an experimental coronavirus vaccine, researchers aren’t waiting to see how well it prevents infection in animals before trying it in people, breaking from the usual protocol.

“I don’t think proving this in an animal model is on the critical path to getting this to a clinical trial,” said Tal Zaks, chief medical officer at Moderna, a Cambridge, Mass.-based biotech that has produced a Covid-19 vaccine candidate at record speed. He told STAT that scientists at the National Institutes of Health are “working on nonclinical research in parallel.” Meanwhile, the clinical trial started recruiting healthy participants in the first week of March.

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Don't pay attention to this you alarmist idiots.

Oh yeah and Hydroxychloroquine is very bad. Very dangerous! Avoid it at all costs.
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STFU shill.
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I was only playing one lol that's the kind of bullshit they spew.
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For fucks sake. It was a red spot at the injection site. Big whoop.

More hyped up anti-vaccine bs
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Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab
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For fucks sake. It was a red spot at the injection site. Big whoop.

More hyped up anti-vaccine bs
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You're not very bright, are you?
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Considering, Moderna previous vaccine was unsafe to test on humans:

"But the Crigler-Najjar treatment has been indefinitely delayed, an Alexion spokeswoman told STAT. It never proved safe enough to test in humans, according to several former Moderna employees and collaborators who worked closely on the project."

It's shocking they are testing this high-risk CV vaccine on humans first.

This is un-ethical.
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Add more water and keep it at 2%.
it is ready to go.





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