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DOES TRUMP HAVE THE POWER TO OVERRIDE THE GOVENORS
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Not really. He will have to get the DOJ to sue the states for violating our 1st amendment right of speech and religion which involves obviously a court case, I don't know how long it would take. I don't see a way he can do it with the flick of a pen. But that's just my take.
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This country has been under emergency rule since the War of Northern Aggression.
The emergency was fully legalized since the day FDR took office.
Congress gave the Office Of President the power to be a dictator
with executive orders the same week.

There is a "Legal maxim" that states: Emergency knows no law.
As the country is under numerous emergencies with the full support of Congress,
this country is under a legal dictatorship.

Stop worshiping the magic parchment.
It does not mean what we were lead to believe.
Research ALL the proper nouns and exception clauses.

If there is any protection from the magic parchment, it is only for the
Ruling Class Nobility that are State Citizens.
They are the real "deep state".
If you have a Birth Certificate, you are a Federal citizen domiciled
in Washington DC which is outside the 50 States united.
Your Mother abandoned you and the Birth Certificate is legal proof of abandonment.

We are legally residents in the State where we are born and live.
We can not own land and are only tenants.

Most everything we think we know is a lie.
Idaho Bullwinkle
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Yes , he can, USA is in martial law from around the related obama executive order about that, only is not enforced
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Not really. He will have to get the DOJ to sue the states for violating our 1st amendment right of speech and religion which involves obviously a court case, I don't know how long it would take. I don't see a way he can do it with the flick of a pen. But that's just my take.
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^^^THIS
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Yes just like Lincoln but Trump doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to finish off his former party, otherwise he wouldn’t be conceding the DEMOCRAT TALKING POINT that GUN RIGHTS are a STATE ISSUE anymore than SLAVERY was about STATE’S RIGHTS, that the Supreme Court decided and the STATES ignored, which provoked Lincoln into referring to the manual in times of crisis, by way of the Bill Of Rights and the 2nd Amendment to combat tyranny by any means necessary........
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Not really. He will have to get the DOJ to sue the states for violating our 1st amendment right of speech and religion which involves obviously a court case, I don't know how long it would take. I don't see a way he can do it with the flick of a pen. But that's just my take.
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^^^THIS
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Yes just like Lincoln but Trump doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to finish off his former party, otherwise he wouldn’t be conceding the DEMOCRAT TALKING POINT that GUN RIGHTS are a STATE ISSUE anymore than SLAVERY was about STATE’S RIGHTS, that the Supreme Court decided and the STATES ignored, which provoked Lincoln into referring to the manual in times of crisis, by way of the Bill Of Rights and the 2nd Amendment to combat tyranny by any means necessary........
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Yes, he can.

Article II of the US Constitution:

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

His duty is to the Constitution and specifically, in this case, the First Amendment to the Constitution.
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Not specifically unless the DOJ would receive a complaint about first amendment rights violations.

He does, and all the governors know it, have influence when it comes to aid packages to states...
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The Attorney General does.

He can force them to open businesses back up under the

interstate commerce clause.

If Interstate commerce is affected, Barr can bring it to an end

Last Edited by Jake on 05/23/2020 07:28 PM
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This country has been under emergency rule since the War of Northern Aggression.
The emergency was fully legalized since the day FDR took office.
Congress gave the Office Of President the power to be a dictator
with executive orders the same week.

There is a "Legal maxim" that states: Emergency knows no law.
As the country is under numerous emergencies with the full support of Congress,
this country is under a legal dictatorship.

Stop worshiping the magic parchment.
It does not mean what we were lead to believe.
Research ALL the proper nouns and exception clauses.

If there is any protection from the magic parchment, it is only for the
Ruling Class Nobility that are State Citizens.
They are the real "deep state".
If you have a Birth Certificate, you are a Federal citizen domiciled
in Washington DC which is outside the 50 States united.
Your Mother abandoned you and the Birth Certificate is legal proof of abandonment.

We are legally residents in the State where we are born and live.
We can not own land and are only tenants.

Most everything we think we know is a lie.
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Well said sir!
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[email protected] YOUTUBE wallin & klarich FEDERAL LAWS ON HUMAN SMUGGLING...[* SANCTUARY GOVERNORS & MAYORS CAN RECEIVE THE DEATH PENALTY UNDER UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 8 SECTION 1324][email protected] THE INTERNET...hidingburnitdead3
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Yes, he can override them based on certain amendments.

I believe it's one 3 and 4.


Does anybody have anything to add?
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[email protected] YOUTUBE wallin & klarich FEDERAL LAWS ON HUMAN SMUGGLING...[* SANCTUARY GOVERNORS & MAYORS CAN RECEIVE THE DEATH PENALTY UNDER UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 8 SECTION 1324][email protected] THE INTERNET...hidingburnitdead3
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States Rights are very important to the founders of the Republic. That being said, no State has the right or authority to override the rights guaranteed citizens in the constitution.

Specifically, the right of assembly. The concept of limiting a group of people to an arbitrary number is not something a State can do.

Banning people from a church synagogue or mosque is also a no no.

So to answer your question---the President cannot override governors in Legal and Constitutionally authorized decisions. The Fed and DOJ CAN override Governors and State Assemblies, ad they can mobilize the National Guard, Regular Troops and Order all local Law Enforcement to either arrest the State Gov, Stand Down, and provide aide to Federal Law Enforcement.

18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy
U.S. Code

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.


18 U.S. Code § 2383.Rebellion or insurrection
U.S. Code

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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The Problem is Mitch McConnell, If he gives the states

another Trillion in unemployment money.

They will never open back up.


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Here's one example of when the Federal Government had to overrule a Governor by force.
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I assume you are talking about the opening back up of States from Covid restrictions.

On Federal Law yes but since this has nothing to do with Federal Law he can't force anything.

Last Edited by Regal Beast on 05/23/2020 08:26 PM
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Yes. Commerce clause of the Constitution.
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Nope and you don’t want that from any president.
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I assume you are talking about the opening back up of States from Covid restrictions.

On Federal Law yes but since this has nothing to do with Federal Law he can't force anything.
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TENTH AMENDMENT.
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Here's one example of when the Federal Government had to overrule a Governor by force.
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Yes. Commerce clause of the Constitution.
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I cancelled prison politics a couple of months ago.

This is all a shit show for entertainment while things are taken care of in the higher dimensions.
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Why not?
So
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Here's one example of when the Federal Government had to overrule a Governor by force.
 Quoting: EarthNotAPlanet


Those saying NO also think GUN RIGHTS are a STATE ISSUE too just like Trump and every other DEMOCRAT from his supposed former party.....
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States Rights are very important to the founders of the Republic. That being said, no State has the right or authority to override the rights guaranteed citizens in the constitution.

Specifically, the right of assembly. The concept of limiting a group of people to an arbitrary number is not something a State can do.

Banning people from a church synagogue or mosque is also a no no.

So to answer your question---the President cannot override governors in Legal and Constitutionally authorized decisions. The Fed and DOJ CAN override Governors and State Assemblies, ad they can mobilize the National Guard, Regular Troops and Order all local Law Enforcement to either arrest the State Gov, Stand Down, and provide aide to Federal Law Enforcement.

18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy
U.S. Code

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.


18 U.S. Code § 2383.Rebellion or insurrection
U.S. Code

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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Here's one example of when the Federal Government had to overrule a Governor by force.
 Quoting: EarthNotAPlanet


Those saying NO also think GUN RIGHTS are a STATE ISSUE too just like Trump and every other DEMOCRAT from his supposed former party.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76954178
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This country has been under emergency rule since the War of Northern Aggression.
The emergency was fully legalized since the day FDR took office.
Congress gave the Office Of President the power to be a dictator
with executive orders the same week.

There is a "Legal maxim" that states: Emergency knows no law.
As the country is under numerous emergencies with the full support of Congress,
this country is under a legal dictatorship.

Stop worshiping the magic parchment.
It does not mean what we were lead to believe.
Research ALL the proper nouns and exception clauses.

If there is any protection from the magic parchment, it is only for the
Ruling Class Nobility that are State Citizens.
They are the real "deep state".
If you have a Birth Certificate, you are a Federal citizen domiciled
in Washington DC which is outside the 50 States united.
Your Mother abandoned you and the Birth Certificate is legal proof of abandonment.

We are legally residents in the State where we are born and live.
We can not own land and are only tenants.

Most everything we think we know is a lie.
 Quoting: Idaho Bullwinkle


Bump for absolute truth!

Just want to add, not only did your Mother abandon the Birth Certificate, she testified she was not married when you were born, because she used her maiden name on the paperwork.

All bastard children are wards of the State!

Lies, lies and more lies.

Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense, my people are lost by ignorance and on and on.

That is why all "rich" people (the real rich people) have private doctors, they keep the Title to their family names and their children, thus their fortunes continue generation to generation. Private schools too, not for you peasants!
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No.

And they didn't have the legal power to violate the first amendment. No one does.

Send out the federal marshals and round them up.
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The constitution is law of the land.
Just trying to bring rational thinking to the net.





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